PRP At home

[MrMister]

Blood Draw Help

Hi everybody,

First off, thanks for all of the great info. Really appreciate everyone sharing what has and hasn't worked.

From what I read the entire process doesn't seem overly complex, but I'm concerned about drawing my own blood. I have no experience doing this and don't have any family or friends who would be able to help. Does anybody know of a way to get blood drawn and keep it. I've tried talking to a couple labs, but they will only draw it if you're having a test done. If anybody has any suggestions, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!

[fathead]

Hi guys, signed up just for this thread.

Tonight/today I completed my first round of PRP at home. Not sure how well it went. I'll outline difficulties below;

1. My centrifuge seemed to get very hot after spinning for 5mins, first spin lasted 15mins @ 4000rpm with 4 x 9mm viles. The samples came out warm and I am not sure if this normal. I bought the one recommended in the thread the 800D desktop model - anyone else have this issue?

2. I had an issue trying to get the buffy coat as I am not 100% which is exactly the buffy coat, I know its the white layer between the PPP and RBC but on my sample it was a thin sticky layer ontop of the RBC portion. I took out all the yellow PPP with as much of this white layer (small amount of RBC too) and spun it a 2nd time. I then took the top 2/3rds and saved it for derma rolling.

3. I used a 3ml syringe and the 4mm needle mention in the thread. As a previous user mention, I also had difficulty getting the buffy coat in to the need. The bottom 1/3rd had the white layer ontop of the small amount of RBC after the 2nd spin. I wasn't sure if I should use the entire sticky white coat for the injection - can anyone clarify? I saw a method on youtube where they use a syringe just above the white layer and use a "tornado" method to spin the white layer into the lower portion of the left over 1/3rd PPP. I tried this but ended up sucking in most of the white layer and mixed it with some RBC and the PPP.

4. Injecting with the 4mm needle, I really don't know how much went in to my scalp. It all seemed to run down my face or just pool out of the injection area. Sometime it did seem to go in, sometimes it didn't. I tried many different angles, 90, 45, 30 .... Has anyone had success with this or any other size needle? The videos I saw they use much larger needles and get large bumps under the skin in the areas its injected. So I do not know how much went in, overall I think I only had about 4-5ml of PRP total and maybe half that went into the scalp(?).

I will try to update again the results in 2 weeks, if anyone could answer my questions / comment on the above, it would be greatly appreciated.

[HairocaustDenier]

Whats going on gang? Any updates?
Im keen to start myself

[assistant]

Steve you are too old for this topic. Go away

[Steve72]

I really cannot believe you guys are going ahead and trying to do PRP from home, you have no formal training and relying on searching online for answers, it's just crazy.

I would hate to read on hear that someone has seriously harmed themselves through doing this procedure by themselves, honestly, leave this treatment to the experts in the field.

[assistant]

questions

Helloo Finally I get a centrifuge machine and some prp kits from local buyer. I have 2 questions:
1. I've not 4mm needle and I use 8mm needle. Im afraid about the depth because I've read that correct depth for scalp is 2 mm insert. How can I understand I'm in correct depth?

2.Can we use these tubes? https://www.amazon.com/Solution-Tube.../dp/B06XWZCZSM
there are special tubes, kits for prp and they have some certification. I think the tubes in link for chemical procedures but these are cheap. Do you think should we expend more money for Class IIb CE certifiicated tubes.

[bob747]

open to questions

[bob747]

So thought ill add my experience with doing prp at home. I did the procedure once two years ago even though i had attempted it twice and i have finally decided to start doing the procedure again. i basically didnt do it again because i got kinda lazy and i hated taking my own blood (have had a fair few fails doing this). So when i did it my procedure was :
1) Took my own blood using a 21g/23g vacutainer needle (cant remember the exact size) into etda bd tubes.
2)Then i centrifuged the blood only once (cant remember the exact speed and length of time)
3)Using a 31g needle and syringe i extracted the prp and ppp (yeh i used both even tho u kinda arent supposed to) and injected it into my head mainly around my hairline. I read somewhere i had to add CaCl2 which i did (even tho im reading that this isnt a must).
Results and side effects:
After about a day i got light swelling around the area which stayed for about 2/3 days and then after about 2/3 weeks i did notice very fast growth in my hair length wise and thats about it. i think if i had kept it up every 2 weeks it would have had an impact.

[beanscoop]

Thank you Sparkshine! You've done an amazing job putting an outline/protocol together and I and I'm sure many others are incredibly grateful!!!!

I have a few questions:

1) How often would you do the procedure?
2) How long do the effects last?
3) Have you seen any noticeable results, i.e., are they dramatic or more subtle (as with dermarolling only)
4) Do you think it's possible to get enough of a lift in the cheek region? Close to what a fat grafting procedure might offer.
5) Would you be willing to share photographs?

So grateful to all and happy to know I'm not the only nut willing to try this on my own!

[Gradejohn]

https://beautygroup-shop.com/meso-re...-12mm-25mm-1pc

Bought them from here. Which was shared earlier.

It was a seamless process and bought them about 3 weeks ago.

I somehow missed this. This is perfect. Thank you!

[Noked]

https://beautygroup-shop.com/meso-relle-30g-x-4mm-6mm-12mm-25mm-1pc

Bought them from here. Which was shared earlier.

It was a seamless process and bought them about 3 weeks ago.

[Gradejohn]

Dear John, what was your injection set up? Could you feel the prp go into the skin?

First, may I ask where you got the 4 mm needles? Second of all, I don’t like the syringe is we used. They are 1/3 of a cc insulin syringe is and we kept having to refill and refill and refill.

When I say “we”, I had my head nurse friend do the injections this first time. I didn’t want to take it on myself, but plan on trying eventually.

If nothing is coming out, are you in starting th first, may I ask where you got the 4 mm needles? Second of all, I don’t like the syringe is we used. They are 1/3 of a cc insulin syringe is and we kept having to refill and refill and refill.

When I say “we“, I had my head nurse friend do the injections this first time. I didn’t want to take it on myself, but plan on trying eventually.

If nothing is coming out, are you inserting the needle at an angle?

[Noked]

Dear John, what was your injection set up? Could you feel the prp go into the skin?

[Noked]

I had no problem buying the 4mm needles. It was easy as buying something from amazon. Straight to doo.

I just “attempted” my 2nd session and I am convinced this is a 2 man job. Drawing blood...no problem...after that you have no idea how much Buffy coat you are collecting and when it comes to injection, I get ZERO under the surface of the skin with the 4mm needle. The syringe won’t even budge when I inject the needle and apply pressure. Does anyone have a useful YouTube video for using small needles for injections? I pretty much just have prp dripping down my face after about an hour of prep...

[Gradejohn]

Thx so much for your answers! I’ve watched several YouTube videos on how to do a self draw and I’m not afraid. And I really appreciate your info on the spin specs you used. That part has confused me a bit. I see that your centrifuge isn’t expensive, if you purchased the one on Noked list of items. Do you feel like this spinner is sufficient for the use we’re using it for? Man you can spend as much money as you want to on those machines geez 🤔

I’m going to do more researching on the spin times, but I was pretty pleased with the results. I mean I won’t know what my head is going to do for a little while, but I was pleased with the cheap side of use. I didn’t trust the timer, so I used a timer on my phone