Dr. Cole and HST - Good news

[gmonasco]

The only difference is that the first on said he believes that cloning will come to fruition but in 10 years. The second one said "Not in my lifetime".

Keep in mind that doctors are primarily technicians, not researchers or scientists. Expecting the average doctor to be an expert in everything connected to his field is kind of like expecting your mechanic to be acquainted with all the latest developments in automotive engineering -- maybe he knows if he's made a point of keeping up on the subject, but the nature of his job doesn't necessarily mean that he does.

[NeedHairASAP]

[QUOTE=Horseshoe;69240]

I don't have any FUT or strip scars because I was never eligible for HT due to very weak and low density donor hair.

I have shaved my head down to the skin because I have no other choice. I don't like the way it looks, it makes me look "kind of sick", like i'm suffering from some illness. I tried to grow the facial hair to distract from the head but my girl complains that it scratches her face and does not like it.

I'm still considering the SMP but at the same time i'm afraid with my luck it might not look good and then there is no turning back.

I hate baldness.

I have that same feeling of "looking like im sick" when I have my head shaved. It's strange.

[Horseshoe]

Which IAHRS doctors did you see? A scalp tattoo on a N7 could end up being a lifetime of trouble. I would think twice if I were you.

Thanks, believe me I don't take it lightly. I have been thinking it over many times. When I go to GLI or HIS websites to see clients results some look really awesome but at the same time there are some that don't look so good. I think if you have some hair, like if you were defused NW3 or 4 it looks pretty good because there is some 3D effect. But i'm slick bald NW7 so that could make the difference in pulling it off.

I saw two IAHRS doctors here on the East Coast. I saw the first one in Feb 2012 and the second one in June 2012. I don't want to mention any names. But I will say that they were both ethical, professional and came to the same conclusion, that I was not a candidate for HT. The only difference is that the first on said he believes that cloning will come to fruition but in 10 years. The second one said "Not in my lifetime".

[Horseshoe]

[QUOTE=Kiwi;69129]

Jesus mate. Do you have an FUT scar?

If not I suggest just skinning it and accepting who you are. It sounds like you are trying to do that.

I don't have any FUT or strip scars because I was never eligible for HT due to very weak and low density donor hair.

I have shaved my head down to the skin because I have no other choice. I don't like the way it looks, it makes me look "kind of sick", like i'm suffering from some illness. I tried to grow the facial hair to distract from the head but my girl complains that it scratches her face and does not like it.

I'm still considering the SMP but at the same time i'm afraid with my luck it might not look good and then there is no turning back.

I hate baldness.

[gmonasco]

Probably all the above mentioned more important medical breakthroughs will come along during our lifetime but a hairloss cure seems to be in a league of it's own. I don't know why it is so difficult. I watched 60 minutes TV a while back and they showed scientists who created a living kidney and a beating heart valve.

It's one of life's ironies that hair follicles are considerably more complex than organs that perform much more important functions. That's helpful if you have a problem with a major organ, but not so good if you have MPB.

[yeahyeahyeah]

From what I understand, Histogen will be out in 3+ years. I would say that's within your lifetime. There is still reason to be hopeful. Scalp tattoo = bad idea imo.

Wonder who the surgeon was? and why he would say that?

If histogen is not the cure for horseshoe, it will no doubt be aderans - they are in the business of replicating follicles.

[the_dude78]

Don't be too depressed, just skin it and be patient.

That HT doc has no idea as to when histogen or aderans will be available. But it's very likely it will be in our life times - I guess we'll all find out more this October at the next annual hair loss convention

Well, I'm 31 now, I had hoped it would be out before I turn 40. Hopefully I can maintain my NW2-ish until it gets here

[Smiley]

I mentioned all the current companies like Replicel and Hitogen and that is what he told me. "Not in my lifetime". Maybe it's because i'm in my 40's and my hairloss is so extensive. I don't know.

From what I understand, Histogen will be out in 3+ years. I would say that's within your lifetime. There is still reason to be hopeful. Scalp tattoo = bad idea imo.

Wonder who the surgeon was? and why he would say that?

[Delphi]

Probably all the above mentioned more important medical breakthroughs will come along during our lifetime but a hairloss cure seems to be in a league of it's own. I don't know why it is so difficult. I watched 60 minutes TV a while back and they showed scientists who created a living kidney and a beating heart valve. You can go to their website and archive the show.

I mentioned all the current companies like Replicel and Hitogen and that is what he told me. "Not in my lifetime". Maybe it's because i'm in my 40's and my hairloss is so extensive. I don't know.

But I will say this, for those younger sufferers there is hope as long as you use current meds to slow or stop MPB until the cure is at hand. For me it seems that the curtain has closed.

Which IAHRS doctors did you see and who told you not in your lifetime? I do not think tattooing a virgin scalp as a N7 is going to benefit you in any way. You will regret it in time so please think about it very carefully. It's a very bad idea. If you had a scar that you wanted to hide, that would be a different story. Be smart, you have lived your life as a very bald man for a long time, why not just shave your head or get a piece?

[ccmethinning]

Very good point.

Also, I'm not one for conspiracy theory nonsense, but it would certainly suit the self-interests of HT doctors as cosmetic surgeons to downplay the potential of the future super-treatments, seeing as those, if they hit the market, could well make a lot of HT procedures obsolete.

Ya I think too many people rely on the sanctity of the title of "Medical Doctor" and take everything they say as gospel. While many doctors are very innovative, many are also stuck in their ways and went to medical school decades ago and their knowledge of future treatments is based on what drug reps tell them.

Also, people don't become HT surgeons or Plastic surgeons because of their love of helping people and saving lives and the field of medicine, they do it because they are extremely lucrative fields. Every cosmetic oriented oriented healthcare facility I've been to always has the nicest and most decorated, have the most fancy TVs with before and after transformations looping, have the shiniest brochures and posters, and the friendliest and most accommodating staff. They are sales facilities as much as they are medical ones, and the doctors are salesmen. HT docs, plastic surgeons, cosmetic dentists, cosmetic dermatologists, want your money, and they want it now.

[Kirby_]

New thing to ask HT docs before you get a transplant "are you aware of companies like Histogen and Aderans - and if so what are your thoughts..."

Very good point.

Also, I'm not one for conspiracy theory nonsense, but it would certainly suit the self-interests of HT doctors as cosmetic surgeons to downplay the potential of the future super-treatments, seeing as those, if they hit the market, could well make a lot of HT procedures obsolete.

[Kiwi]

The HT doctor that Horseshoe saw might've meant literal cloning of follicles, in a lab. The doctor might even have no idea that Aderans, Replicel and Histogen even exist! The one thing I got the impression from reading Rassman's blog is that some HT doctors are extremely set in their ways. Many HT doctors might not even be as aware of possible future treatments as the average BTT forum-goer!

In which case that HT doctor is an old c U n T that probably still thinks hair plugs are new technology.

New thing to ask HT docs before you get a transplant "are you aware of companies like Histogen and Aderans - and if so what are your thoughts..."

If you were going to a web development company to get a website and they didnt know what responsive design was... same thing.... they are not a company that cares about the future... or even the current technologies.

[Kirby_]

The HT doctor that Horseshoe saw might have meant literal cloning of follicles, in a lab. The doctor might not even have any idea that Aderans, Replicel and Histogen even exist! The one thing I got the impression from reading Rassman's blog is that some HT doctors are extremely set in their ways. It wouldn't surprise me if the average HT doctor might be far less aware of possible future treatments as the average BTT forum-goer!

[Kiwi]

So basically what he said was, that we shouldn't expect Histogen or Replicel anytime soon? Not even in 10-15 years?

That is truly depressing.

Don't be too depressed, just skin it and be patient.

That HT doc has no idea as to when histogen or aderans will be available. But it's very likely it will be in our life times - I guess we'll all find out more this October at the next annual hair loss convention

[greatjob!]

That sucks horseshoe, but at least he was ethical enough to give it to you straight instead of taking your money and performing a botch job on you that would have left you in an even worse position.

As for the not in your lifetime comment I don't care who the surgeon was, him saying not in your lifetime holds about as much weight as people on this forum saying a cure will be here in 2014, no one can say that with any certainty. I bet if you took a poll of all hair transplant surgeons on the likelihood of a breakthrough treatment coming out in the next 10 years you would get the same results if you held that same poll on this website.