This article appeared in March 2008. BTW, I am from India, and I have been a patient at Dr. Batras. I wouldn't count on Dr. Batra's credibility, manned by ignorant quacks that they are. Anyway, obviously nothing much has happened on this front, because Dr. Batra's still hasn't tried cloning on a single patient.
But, if Replicel, or Histogen, or any of these companies get past the safety and baseline efficacy barrier, they should really look at India as a market to cover their FDA trial costs at least. The market is mostly unregulated, and there will be no dearth of patients. Hair restoration is a thriving sunshine industry here.
Spencer Kobren Speaks With RepliCel Life Sciences' CEO and President David Hall
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so he admits it grows large amounts of hair within two years?
and then the article ends with...
"Prof Dr Hoffmann emphasised the dream of growing multiple hairs from a few donor hair follicles or hair follicle cloning."
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so first he says he clones hair and then he emphasized the dream of cloned hair?
uhh
either way I hope to god this is offered in india within the next two years.. pleaseLeave a comment:
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Hmmm very interesting find Penny Stock. Where did you find that and what's the date?Leave a comment:
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this seems very similar to histogen. I think it is just a matter of time before one of these types of treatments gets the correct ****tail or dose to end most hair loss.
histogen and Replicel will either be the next generation of treatments that reach the market or will be paving the way for the next companies to build on.
It really is just a matter of time before this is cured. It really does suck though that this thread and forum has begun to be overrun by a bunch or trolls and guys whos only pleasure in life seems to be trying to get a rise out of people on here.Leave a comment:
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this seems very similar to histogen. I think it is just a matter of time before one of these types of treatments gets the correct ****tail or dose to end most hair loss.
histogen and Replicel will either be the next generation of treatments that reach the market or will be paving the way for the next companies to build on.
It really is just a matter of time before this is cured. It really does suck though that this thread and forum has begun to be overrun by a bunch or trolls and guys whos only pleasure in life seems to be trying to get a rise out of people on here.Leave a comment:
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"the FDA is totally corrupt and heavily in the....." , Oh DepressedByHairLoss, how could you say that about the venerable FDA? You must be a conspiracy theorist. Of course I'm being sarcastic. But I'm glad there are people out there who are not clueless ostriches and sheep and who know that the FDA is more about serving special interest groups (doctors, big pharma and their lobbyists) and making money than about serving the public. I wouldn't be surprised at all if it turns out HT doctors and the makers of Minox, Fin... are pressuring the FDA not to allow any real hair loss treatment from being available any time soon.
Watch how the sheep will respond, lol.
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Merck (makers of Propecia), Johnson & Johnson (makers of Rogaine) and the hair transplant doctors and their lobbyists are pressuring the FDA not to allow any other hair loss treatments to reach the market. Look at what's happening with bimatoprost (Latisse). They started using it to attempt to treat baldness better, and once the FDA got wind up of it, they were on them like flies on shit, basically issuing them an open letter to cease and desist. Unfortunately, everyone today is out for their own self-interest. The HT doctors want to continue to make money the best way they know how (through hair transplants) and the makers of Propecia want to continue to make money by peddling Propecia (which would be irrelevant if a better hair loss treatment came along).
VictimOfDHT, I think you and me are more quick to point this out because we have a hell of a lot more invested in our hair loss. You had a good deal of your transplanted hair fall out and I'm just depressed beyond belief over my degree of hair loss. I think people who have just a tiny bit of hair loss (some minor shedding that they corrected or they still have a ton of hair, just a slight receding hair line) are not as pissed off with hair loss as people like us who have been more drastically affected by hair loss. After all, people with very minor hair loss can still go out to bars and still post photos on facebook without people noticing their hair loss.
It is just unacceptable to me that we have to continue living life with this ****in disease and a cure has not been found already (and very few people are even trying to find a cure). As I've said many times, I wouldn't be nearly as pissed off if there were more attempts by more companies to cure hair loss. If a ton of people/companies tested various things ON HUMANS after they worked to grow hair on mice, but these things just were proven not to grow hair effectively on humans, then I would understand. But all we have is a ton of things that have been proven to regrow hair in mice, and have shown potential to regrow hair in humans, but have never been taken past the mouse stage. It just makes me so mad because things like Noggin, Nestin, BMP inhibitors, etc. could really be what we're looking for to regrow our hair, but no one even tries to test them beyond stupid mouse experiments. All of these things are proven to regrow hair in mice, but never tested beyond that stage. Instead we're stuck with Rogaine, Propecia, and hair transplants, which work about as effectively on hair loss as a tricycle trying to combat a Mack truck.
But that being said, I really do applaud companies like Histogen and Replicel who are making significant attempts to cure hair loss. If there were more companies like them out there, then I would be a happy man.Leave a comment:
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Anyone notice the slight slip of the tounge at 44:10 in the Interview?
Am I missing somthing or has good old Dr Rolf Hoffmann has been working on this for a while.
Dr Batra's Clinic to Promote Hair Cloning in India
Thy claim that the success rate of cloning would double that of the standard treatments available nowadays
Dr Batra's Clinic, India's largest chain of homeopathy clinics in India, is in process of working with Prof Dr Rolf Hoffmann, eminent dermatologist and the President of the European Hair Research Society (EHRS).
"The process of hair cloning will bring an answer for hair growth to millions if balding people across the world, particularly women, who have no effective answer to their balding as on date," said Dr Hoffman, known worldwide for inventing the Trichoscan—the world's first ever tool to monitor hair density and measure treatment efficacy. He said that close to 40 per cent of women in their 40's and 50 per cent of women in their 50's experience hair loss.
The procedure of cloning is unique since it's the only one to use the cup cells of the hair to clone and grow new hair. A very small area of hair is taken from the patients scalp. The cells are taken from the cup of these hair follicles, multiplied in a laboratory for three months and then injected onto the balding areas of the patient's scalp.
Prof Dr Hoffmann added that this procedure has so far no potential side effects and that it can re-grow large amounts of hair in a period of two years for people with diffuse hair loss. He estimates the success rate of cloning to double that of the standard treatments available nowadays.
The process of hair cloning is estimated to become a reality for patients in a few years.
Prof Dr Hoffmann indicated his interest in bringing the process to India. He said "The good reputation, number of clinics and the large patient base held by Dr Batra's Clinic makes it a potential partner to bring cloning into India."
Dr Mukesh Batra, Chairman and MD Dr Batra's Clinic, said, "Bringing cloning to India would be an ideal extension of our brand and would be a very good answer for all hair patients in India."
Prof Dr Hoffmann said that the estimated hair care market worldwide is pegged at 150 billion USD. The hair transplant business is estimated to at 1.2 billion USD with an estimated 7,00,000 patients per year visiting a hair transplant surgeon. Prof Dr Hoffmann emphasised the dream of growing multiple hairs from a few donor hair follicles or hair follicle cloning.
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Anyone notice the slight slip of the tounge at 44:10 in the Interview?
Am I missing somthing or has good old Dr Rolf Hoffmann has been working on this for a while.
Dr Batra's Clinic to Promote Hair Cloning in India
Thy claim that the success rate of cloning would double that of the standard treatments available nowadays
Dr Batra's Clinic, India's largest chain of homeopathy clinics in India, is in process of working with Prof Dr Rolf Hoffmann, eminent dermatologist and the President of the European Hair Research Society (EHRS).
"The process of hair cloning will bring an answer for hair growth to millions if balding people across the world, particularly women, who have no effective answer to their balding as on date," said Dr Hoffman, known worldwide for inventing the Trichoscan—the world's first ever tool to monitor hair density and measure treatment efficacy. He said that close to 40 per cent of women in their 40's and 50 per cent of women in their 50's experience hair loss.
The procedure of cloning is unique since it's the only one to use the cup cells of the hair to clone and grow new hair. A very small area of hair is taken from the patients scalp. The cells are taken from the cup of these hair follicles, multiplied in a laboratory for three months and then injected onto the balding areas of the patient's scalp.
Prof Dr Hoffmann added that this procedure has so far no potential side effects and that it can re-grow large amounts of hair in a period of two years for people with diffuse hair loss. He estimates the success rate of cloning to double that of the standard treatments available nowadays.
The process of hair cloning is estimated to become a reality for patients in a few years.
Prof Dr Hoffmann indicated his interest in bringing the process to India. He said "The good reputation, number of clinics and the large patient base held by Dr Batra's Clinic makes it a potential partner to bring cloning into India."
Dr Mukesh Batra, Chairman and MD Dr Batra's Clinic, said, "Bringing cloning to India would be an ideal extension of our brand and would be a very good answer for all hair patients in India."
Prof Dr Hoffmann said that the estimated hair care market worldwide is pegged at 150 billion USD. The hair transplant business is estimated to at 1.2 billion USD with an estimated 7,00,000 patients per year visiting a hair transplant surgeon. Prof Dr Hoffmann emphasised the dream of growing multiple hairs from a few donor hair follicles or hair follicle cloning.
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If this is out when you're 25 then happy days. Nowadays 25 is really young, you'd still have a great portion of your youth rocking a full head of hair. That's a good positive spin you can put on things. If it comes out in 2015 I'll be 29 and delighted. I'm thinking 2016. Guess that wouldn't be so bad either. I really prefer this solution to Histogen. Regenerative medicine is in it's infancy. A lot of things are going to radically change over the next couple of decades.Leave a comment:
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Needhairasap has been on Hairsite toooo long.
I doubt anyone here has made plans. Everyone knows what was said in the interview. Plus I truly doubt That Mr Hall would say anything regarding growth on humans at this point. He has to know it works and they probably have some results but can't report them. The guy was just being real, without trying to over sell it. I'm almost positive they know it works, the question is how well?
We also need to remember that this can potentially be out sooner in another country. And what about the rest? Aderans is expecting to finish in 2014. Follica is in nearing the end as well. We might have something before Replicel! We are not doomed yet.Leave a comment:
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Actually Jundam, one of my HT doctors was honest about how he felt about new treatments for hair loss -I mean other than HT- he was against it. He actually told me that would put him out of business. So no, I don't think any HT doctor would welcome any new treatments UNLESS maybe if they have exclusive rights to offering these treatments.
But if I heard the Replicel CEO correctly(and I was working at the same time so I might not have) he was talking about Replicel being administered by HT doctors, at least at initial release, and possibly later on expanding outside of HT clinics as well. If that's the plan and they pay a licensing fee or something then it would still work out quite well for them I suspect.Leave a comment:
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I also dont see HT doctors doing any sort of lobbying... more just down talking new treatments on forums and to patientsLeave a comment:
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Actually Jundam, one of my HT doctors was honest about how he felt about new treatments for hair loss -I mean other than HT- he was against it. He actually told me that would put him out of business. So no, I don't think any HT doctor would welcome any new treatments UNLESS maybe if they have exclusive rights to offering these treatments.Leave a comment:
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The FDA may be corrupt but considering that only a small fraction of balding men use Rogaine and Finasteride to treat hair loss, and only for a limited time frame due to diminishing effect, and taking into account that there are generic alternatives for both, these products have quite simply run their course. I doubt very much that they are even on Big Pharma's radar these days.
As far as HT doctors and clinics goes I'm sure they'd love nothing less than to see a truly effective treatment arriving on the market and making their craft close to obsolete. But while it is plausible that Big Pharma is playing a dirty game behind the scenes and manipulating the FDA it is not even remotely plausible that HT doctors could do the same. They are small money, they have no power or influence and not enough money to buy either.Leave a comment:
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God bless Spencer for conducting this interview and doing all that he does for us. Anyway, I know that we're going to initially have to go outside of the U.S. and Canada for this treatment, and I hope that it's being offered overseas first. The FDA is totally corrupt and heavily in the pockets of the large pharmaceutical companies and their powerful lobbyists. So they're obviously gonna be totally unnecessarily hounding Replicel over their treatment. The article that The Alchemist posted totally illustrates this. So I'm really hoping that Replicel's treatment/cure is offered overseas as soon as possible. And since they're conducting their clinical trials overseas, then I think they probably are going to offer this overseas first. I, like so many other people on here, are really desperate to get our full heads of hair and will not mind travelling anywhere in the world to do this.
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