Cure for MPB?

[RichardDawkins]

HairyHair really hit it here.

Everyone of those HM Researchers want to serve the mass market.The mass market and therefore one has to be quiet and the other one (Histogen) gives away brief informations, but thats good for us because it keeps this hm research rolling.

If it would be otherwise i would really really start to pray (as an atheist).

Also another problem is, if both get on the market and one treatment is a little bit more efficient well then everything was for nothing for the "less" impressive treatment.

I said it before the only thing pretty much ****ed up here is the waiting time. I also agree 1 to 2 years for stuff like Histogen or Ari and 2 years or 3 for Acell plucking things to be efficient.

But this crap talk " At least 10 years (i really saw someon who said 50 years) is just plain stupid especially in regards that even sceptical docs right now are not so "Loud" when it comes to lets say Acell criticism.

I wouldnt exactly pinpoint money as a problem here because the mass market situation will gain them more money then only to milk rich people.

You have to see, even if Histogen would put out their product today, it would if you some the small scale experiment up, at least give you back 2 levels on the Norwood scale. Considered it works also on NW7 oldies.

But i cant stress this enough, i have doubts about this stuff to work in extensive scar tissue.

As someone here said, he has done his research. And i can underline this, everyone who does the research by himself will see ok the working is not that much of a problem, but the limitations are.

Limitations like scars for example. I really really support Acell but i think that Acell and plucked hairs can only grow in "good" scars and not in really extensive fleshy butcher ones.

Sorry to come up with this but as i said iam not an overly optimistic sunshine guy. I see it from a realistic standpoint and can say

1) Yes hairloss can be put to a full stop
2) Hairloss can be reversed to a certain point
3) In some years yes you dont have to make compromises between density and donor depleation

But

1) No i believe HM wont work in extensive scar tissue
2) People with extensive hairloss over more then two to three decades will have to undergo more HM treatments, thats for sure

3) The donor area should also be treated with HM because better safe then sorry

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Will this work (HM in transplanted areas? I say Yes and no. It will work in good transplantation sites but it wont work to that good extent in scar recipient areas.

[PatientlyWaiting]

Yes, from the studies it has been proven that hair follicles surrounded will benifit from these treatments. I know Histogen's HSC has already proven this.

Aderans is leading the pack for HM.. I'll put my trust in them because they have been successful in their phase II studies.. it's all about putting out in the market. This is what's taking longer than people hoped for, but like I said.. it's only a matter of time. Why wouldn't HM be out soon anyways, with all the progress made? Doesn't make sense to me. Most experts predicted it to be out a year from now, but respectfully it's always safe to add a year.. or 2.. Not 20, like most people think.

Maybe I'm desperate, or just really gullible.. but when you read up on the clinical trials, it's not about whether this procedure will work, it's already proven.. getting it out in the market is the annoying part.

Hey bro I was curious about this particular part of your post. Just wanted to know if it's already proven because of hearsay from doctors/scientists/researchers or is their actual visual proof of hm being a proven treatment?

[HairyHair]

Maybe I'm desperate, or just really gullible.. but when you read up on the clinical trials, it's not about whether this procedure will work, it's already proven.. getting it out in the market is the annoying part.

Yes, it's usually the making it available to the public part that's annoying but that's also when we doubt the research because why can't they just get it out? Either there's something wrong with the product/study or the health department's (or FDA or whoever's responsible) giving them a hard time.

[CVAZBAR]

Have they?



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Thanks, seems like it's always the same shit. "Significant growth" but never 100% Of the people benefit. Someone always loses. It also seems they still got work to do before it's available. I wonder how long it takes to get the next results. They are expecting improvement each time. Let's see what happens. ****en hate waiting.

[gmonasco]

Aderans is leading the pack for HM.. I'll put my trust in them because they have been successful in their phase II studies.

Have they?

According to Aderans, the results of the trial (the second step in a proposed series of seven clinical observations) showed “significant hair growth” in over 50% of participants at the one year mark.

The press release, whether intentional or not, does not contain certain, objective details: What does “significant hair growth” mean? Are these new hairs resistant to dihydrotestosterone (DHT – the hormone directly responsible for genetic hair loss)? Why were no objective “before and after” images released? What type of results were observed in the 50% of patients who did not see new growth?

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[gmonasco]

Aderans by 2015. Hair loss won't be progressive because they are duplicating DHT resistant hairs.

You need keep in mind that "DHT resistant hair" really means "less susceptible to DHT" -- it isn't completely immune from the effects of DHT.

[CVAZBAR]

Hair cloning (also known as Hair Multiplication, HM) will be the ultimate cure to MPB. I know people are pessimistic about this being released in the near future, but they are just use to promises that fail to deliver.


The earliest release of HM will be sometime in 2012, by 2015 HM will be wide spread as the #1 treatment for MPB. I just hope what they say is true about the cost being less than a traditional Hair Transplant.

Better start saving your money (:

Yo Bosox, I did some more research on HM and it seems you're right that it actually did work for everyone. The problem is that some people had bad results. So it don't seem it will guarantee you maximum results. Do you know anything about this? Have you heard about any improvement on this recently?

[CVAZBAR]

Spencer should try and get someone from aderans to talk about their progress. I haven't heard anything from them since I came to this site. I want updates on their trials and maybe a timeframe on availability.

[mlao]

I guess that's the only problem. Bosleys reputation

Given the fact that people on this site have said they would fly to Asia to get the Histogen procedure. Going to an American doctor that I can research on the internet feels a whole lot safer to me.

[CVAZBAR]

This is why I think Aderans may be the sleeping giant in this they are taking DHT resistance into account. And like I've said in earlier posts. They're small by drug company standards but not in comparison to Histogen and Follica plus they are well into phase 2 trials and had the foresight to buy all of the Intercytex research. I for one would gladly go to a Bosley doctor if their therapy became available first.

I guess that's the only problem. Bosleys reputation

[mlao]

This is why I think Aderans may be the sleeping giant in this they are taking DHT resistance into account. And like I've said in earlier posts. They're small by drug company standards but not in comparison to Histogen and Follica plus they are well into phase 2 trials and had the foresight to buy all of the Intercytex research. I for one would gladly go to a Bosley doctor if their therapy became available first.

[CVAZBAR]

Well I hope your right. Thanks for the info

[BoSox]

Yes, from the studies it has been proven that hair follicles surrounded will benifit from these treatments. I know Histogen's HSC has already proven this.

Aderans is leading the pack for HM.. I'll put my trust in them because they have been successful in their phase II studies.. it's all about putting out in the market. This is what's taking longer than people hoped for, but like I said.. it's only a matter of time. Why wouldn't HM be out soon anyways, with all the progress made? Doesn't make sense to me. Most experts predicted it to be out a year from now, but respectfully it's always safe to add a year.. or 2.. Not 20, like most people think.

Maybe I'm desperate, or just really gullible.. but when you read up on the clinical trials, it's not about whether this procedure will work, it's already proven.. getting it out in the market is the annoying part.

[CVAZBAR]

Aderans by 2015. Hair loss won't be progressive because they are duplicating DHT resistant hairs.

Well I was saying mostly the hair that you have already that is not resistant to dht. Will those hairs also benefit from this?

[BoSox]

Aderans by 2015. Hair loss won't be progressive because they are duplicating DHT resistant hairs.