We have 3 companies working on topical "side free" finasteride equivalents

[burtandernie]

Whatever happened to the actual topical finasteride? Is that going to come out sooner if its shown to not actually have systemic sides topically?

[LMS]

When will we be able to find out the CB vehicle? and do you guys think the one they use for acne will work for alopecia? that way we could start using it off label when it comes out for acne?

u can bet ur ass ill buy the acne one and probs just add more cb to make it more potent

[FearTheLoss]

When will we be able to find out the CB vehicle? and do you guys think the one they use for acne will work for alopecia? that way we could start using it off label when it comes out for acne?

[sascha]

So they could be anywhere betwixt not having the money for phase 2b or half way through? don't these trials normally take years?

Well, if we can trust several sources on the drug approval process phase 2 actually takes 1,5 to 2,5 years. Follica stated that they use compounds that are well known, ergo they said that it could come much faster to market.(I personally do not believe that). So yeah, if you consider what they said, they are half way trough the second half of phase 2, possibly somehow connected to phase 3. OR they had to go back and really include fgf9 in phase 1/2a. (would make more sense that they continue with lithium and made simultaneously the proof of concept phase with fgf9). BUT as always this industry is fairydust, my friend.

[LMS]

Oh come on, thats such a strawman argument. You and I both know the next treatment approved by the FDA is more than likely going to be CB-03-01... unless Follica quits masturbating and taking in funding and releases a treatment before that.

All the options we have today and have had for the last 30 years are garbage. CB isn't going to change a whole lot. Either Follica or the findings from Jahoda/China are the only true treatments we should be excited about.

LEGIT.

Hellouser once again the voice of reason and norwooding rage.

[joely]

it would appear tthat way, im just getting a really hopless feeling that we just arnt going to get there, these companies seem to have been researching for years and nothing better than fin is on offer still! or anything close

[hellouser]

So they could be anywhere betwixt not having the money for phase 2b or half way through? don't these trials normally take years?

Doesn't it seem like its 4 years of them bullshitting around and 6 months of actually progress for every phase they go through?

[joely]

So they could be anywhere betwixt not having the money for phase 2b or half way through? don't these trials normally take years?

[sascha]

Where are follica at, their website does not give much away[/QUOTE]

http://www.puretechventures.com/pipeline.php

According this pipeline in phase 2 studies. But I would say it depends on what their next step was back in summer when they released the news. they can A) be in the process to fund money for 2b or B) be halfway trough 2b heading to phase 3. PureTech said on twitter: "Follica is advancing the development.We will update when we have news or go-to-market timelines."

[joely]

All the options we have today and have had for the last 30 years are garbage. CB isn't going to change a whole lot. Either Follica or the findings from Jahoda/China are the only true treatments we should be excited about.[/QUOTE]

Where are follica at, their website does not give much away

[kobefan234]

Even with fin & promox when I put a comb thru my hair I get a **** ton on hairs stuck in the comb. Truly depressing

They should at the very minimum come out with a good AA topical

[hellouser]

So the next FDA approved treatment your not going to use that but instead opt for the RU from some oversea website? If you dont give the FDA much validity then you wouldnt use anything they approve in the same way I should use what they approved

Oh come on, thats such a strawman argument. You and I both know the next treatment approved by the FDA is more than likely going to be CB-03-01... unless Follica quits masturbating and taking in funding and releases a treatment before that.

All the options we have today and have had for the last 30 years are garbage. CB isn't going to change a whole lot. Either Follica or the findings from Jahoda/China are the only true treatments we should be excited about.

[Dan26]

100% im under the aggressive hairloss category and agree with this.

Fin works for me in terms of slowing down the loss alot, but since starting on it I'd say i've lost about 5% of my hair(hairline has receded a little bit more and density has gotten a little bit worse), noticeable for sure but I can hold off until I can find something to add to this.

I dont like RU personally with the sides i've heard from it and it's untested, so i'm holding out for someone to start pre-mixing CB with the proper vehicle as I think it has a much higher safety profile.

Bro you should get the idea of CB on the grey market out of your head...just being honest. It is not as strong an AA as RU, you would need to use it at a high percent and it is extremely expensive + were not 100% sure on the vehicle.

I'd either stick on fin, up to dut, or give RU a shot and see if you tolerate it. Don't hold your breath for CB.

[deuce]

So the next FDA approved treatment your not going to use that but instead opt for the RU from some oversea website? If you dont give the FDA much validity then you wouldnt use anything they approve in the same way I should use what they approved

Im just saying they do not always get it right, and they are always recalling medicines for being dangerous. Of course I would feel better listening to the FDA but unfortunately they take a very long time, and alot of us do not have alot of time. I read in a previous post you had light hairloss. If I was you I would not worry about this forum and see if you could tolerate fin 2-3 times a week with rogaine and nizoral.

[burtandernie]

Not trying to sound like a jerk or anything here, but if you give the FDA so much validity why don't you not worry about a topical and just take fin. They approved that so they must be spot on right?

So the next FDA approved treatment your not going to use that but instead opt for the RU from some oversea website? If you dont give the FDA much validity then you wouldnt use anything they approve in the same way I should use what they approved