Killer stack for border line baldies

[EXprettyboy]

Lets take this one step at a time. For those who still have thin hair of norwood 3/4 pattern, who give this a solid 4-6 months, I believe this is the most powerful treatment combination ever put together. I believe this is the closest to a cure we've ever come.


Head shaved to the bone for the duration of treatment.

Dermaroll 1.5mm weekly, aim for very light speckles of blood, common sense should guide.

Minoxidil morning and night, I'm liberal with it.

Alpecin shampoo and alpecin lotion daily.

10 minutes every other day with laser device. Make sure you use enough diodes to completely saturate the area with light. elevate it from the scalp. Most of the ones on the market haven't enough lasers and are too expensive. I made my own. I think you should use it right after you dermaroll

Nizoral once a week. leave it on for 5 minutes before rinsing.

I use Groh hair and nails, which is marketed for women to promoted hair health and volume. It's still de-miniturisation.

And Tocosorb, it has tocotrienols which is a form of vit 3 with some studies saying it promotes growth.


Don't half ass this. It will be expensive and if you don't do everything you will possibly not have the results and deter others by misleading them into thinking it's ineffective. Do it all or don't do it. Maybe norwood 7s should wait till we have results on more reactive early norwoods as i suspect it will take a longer period for them to get the kind of response we want.

expect things to get a lot worse before getting better, this is part of the process.

There is info out there on building laser devices, find it yourself, I did.


Be militant with this, don't slack. Report back. good luck.

[thechamp]

So basically your saying laser dermorolling alipecan is the cure

[hellouser]

Hellouser... Maybe you don't want to build a laser device, maybe you're sick of dermarolling, maybe you think the topicals and vitamins are bullshit, maybe you just don't want to put hope into something again, and so I understand your skepticism.

But I'm not trying to sell you anything, and if you read through my posts you will hopefully see that there is a genuine tone and not the slightest bit of trolling.

I stand to gain nothing only humiliation if somebody discovers those pictures I posted with recognizable scars indicating my identity.

but to keep my results a secret for no reason only selfish pride would be really un-cool.

and like I said before I intend to get back to my life now and not think about this shit anymore. Take it or leave it. I've done my duty, baldtruthtalk gave to me, I gave back.

Perhaps the reason cotsarelis has been quite is because it actually worked, only problem is he has no product to market because everthing needed is already out there, haha what a kick in the teeth, they'll probably come out with some other 'special growth factor' they can sell soon enough.

It's not skepticism as much as accepting something based on words alone. I, along with everyone else, needs visual proof; before and after photos. There's no reason to make it a big deal to provide simple photographs.

[EXprettyboy]

Hellouser... Maybe you don't want to build a laser device, maybe you're sick of dermarolling, maybe you think the topicals and vitamins are bullshit, maybe you just don't want to put hope into something again, and so I understand your skepticism.

But I'm not trying to sell you anything, and if you read through my posts you will hopefully see that there is a genuine tone and not the slightest bit of trolling.

I stand to gain nothing only humiliation if somebody discovers those pictures I posted with recognizable scars indicating my identity.

but to keep my results a secret for no reason only selfish pride would be really un-cool.

and like I said before I intend to get back to my life now and not think about this shit anymore. Take it or leave it. I've done my duty, baldtruthtalk gave to me, I gave back.

Perhaps the reason cotsarelis has been quite is because it actually worked, only problem is he has no product to market because everthing needed is already out there, haha what a kick in the teeth, they'll probably come out with some other 'special growth factor' they can sell soon enough.

[Dan26]

When did you start using minox exprettyboy?

[gainspotter]

well consider these my befores and in 6 months I'll update again. you can wait till then if you like.

In 6 weeks I reversed this shit 5 years. I'm seeing vast improvement by the week and the rate of improvement is accelerating.

Nothing anybody says will take the smile off my face.

It is hard to tell if anyone who posts "cures" on this forum is genuine. Well, apart from the obvious sharks, but you aren't trying to sell anything. No baseline photos is odd but maybe you just rolled the dice on this method and weren't hopeful of results so you didn't bother.

Either way I might give this method a go, worst case is it will do jack shit and ill move on. I'd appreciate if you could give me a better idea of how you made the device, maybe some pics?

You gotta understand that everyone here is sick of hairloss and sick of crappy treatments and scams, so they do have a right to grill you.
If you are a genuine gu who's found something that works I'm happy for you.
Hope we can all find a cure soon.

[hellouser]

well consider these my befores and in 6 months I'll update again. you can wait till then if you like.

In 6 weeks I reversed this shit 5 years. I'm seeing vast improvement by the week and the rate of improvement is accelerating.

Nothing anybody says will take the smile off my face.

With the amount of hair you have now, it'd be very difficult if not near impossible to judge any more improvement. You saying it 'feels' thicker means squat. Hair is visual and photographs will prove that.

[EXprettyboy]

well consider these my befores and in 6 months I'll update again. you can wait till then if you like.

In 6 weeks I reversed this shit 5 years. I'm seeing vast improvement by the week and the rate of improvement is accelerating.

Nothing anybody says will take the smile off my face.

[walrus]

This is not solely a dermarolling trial hellouser, it is a combo trial.

Here is where i'm at after only several weeks. I don't have before's as I said because I only care how it actually looks and feels to me, not some random extra follicle under a microscope.

I was significantly worse in january, very thin norwood 2.5 - 3.

I am nearly there although I'm going to continue treatment shaved for another few months and you can see why I expect a full recovery. This is why I think we have found a cure.

Like I said... ITS OVER!!!

You might not care --- but to make such bold claims you require evidence. "After" pictures without "before" are not worth very much at all.

[EXprettyboy]

This is not solely a dermarolling trial hellouser, it is a combo trial.

Here is where i'm at after only several weeks. I don't have before's as I said because I only care how it actually looks and feels to me, not some random extra follicle under a microscope.

I was significantly worse in january, very thin norwood 2.5 - 3.

I am nearly there although I'm going to continue treatment shaved for another few months and you can see why I expect a full recovery. This is why I think we have found a cure.

Like I said... ITS OVER!!!

[hellouser]

Perhaps some of your most prolific posters with solid reputations could do a ten man trial. Guys with moderate loss like thinning Norwood 3s.

I gave dermarolling 5 months and didn't notice much, if anything other than lots of bleeding.

Give the entire stack 10 weeks. And then the masses will have a better indication of what's possible.

That's what the dermarolling thread is/was for... the lack of results says a lot.

I would consider calling spencer Cobren, but I have a feeling I wouldn't be taken seriously. I also value my anonymity which is why I don't post pictures. I don't believe in taking photos anyway, if a treatment is cosmetically significant you'll know about it.

This is some serious Dr. Gho logic right there. Youre not revealing any identity by posting photos of the top of your head. Don't worry about your face being exposed, nobody cares to see it, we just want to see before/after shots of your hair.

[EXprettyboy]

Update

Guys.... I don't really know how to go about this, but I feel obliged to let you know what's going on, out of an understanding of the emotional distress this unfortunate cosmetic defect causes young men.

At this point, only a few weeks in, I believe I am observing the results of the first treatment regimen that might even be considered close to.... A CURE.

I stand to gain nothing by announcing this only a clear conscience because I've shared the news of my results. I had considered not making this post because I thought it might be better for me to be a guy with cool hair in a world half filled with baldies, than a guy with cool hair in a world full of guys with cool hair, but I couldn't do that. Besides I'm sure the majority of you guys will ignore this anyway! I can sleep at night because I told you about it.

I suspect later norwoods will respond too, but they will progress slower until they build up momentum. I believe thinning Norwood 2s and 3s will see results extremely quickly like me 6-8 weeks to become believers.

I will not be posting again on this forum. If some dedicated 'senior' poster wanted to quiz me over the phone I would consider this.

I want to give you some more specifics in the treatment in case you want to try yourself:
1- The head must be shaved tight during treatments, I believe this to be essential. When you reach a point when your condition has improved significantly, grow it out continuing treatments. Occasionally shave your head to induce an accelerated treatment phase. Repeat cycle until you hit Norwood 2. I estimate that full recovery under a year for moderate loss.

2 - regarding the laser part of the stack, I have began lifting the device a couple of inches over my scalp so that the focused dots of light diffuse to completely saturate the the area in laser light. I should mention that I screwed the lenses off already when I built it to create more coverage.

3 - I don't know if this is dangerous but when I finish dermarolling I give my scalp one or two sprays of minoxidil and a splash of alpecin lotion, and then I laser my head immediately.

4 - when I dermaroll, I go pretty hard. I aim for speckles of blood. This sounds worse than it is. I hold the roller close to the wheel part, this makes the pressure more direct. It is pretty ****in sore, today I nearly bough freeze gel in the pharmacy to numb my head but then I thought the chemicals would be absorbed and **** up the treatment, not worth the risk, current progress is well worth the pain.

I thought I had put together a decent treatment regimen, know I think I may have inadvertently discovered the first viable cure. I don't want to keep repeating the regimen so if your interested read through this thread.

I anticipate an absolute shit storm of hate response in this thread because I know this sounds to good to be true, but I swear to you this is the truth.

Perhaps some of your most prolific posters with solid reputations could do a ten man trial. Guys with moderate loss like thinning Norwood 3s. Give the entire stack 10 weeks. And then the masses will have a better indication of what's possible.

I would consider calling spencer Cobren, but I have a feeling I wouldn't be taken seriously. I also value my anonymity which is why I don't post pictures. I don't believe in taking photos anyway, if a treatment is cosmetically significant you'll know about it.


Final words in closing, I'm in my late twenties so I still have some time to really enjoy what's left of my youth. I wish I had of discovered this method a decade ago, my life would have been very different. There were some really low points relating directly to my hairloss. Good luck whatever you do, I know your hurting right now and you don't know what to believe but either way, more guys will get results with this method and I'm sure in two years it will be common knowledge so you can try then!
...and we got the last laugh on the big corporations jostling for the privilege of ripping bald men off for shit treatments. They won't make a cent in the end, haha, we tried everything we could ourselves until we beat them to it!!

..it's over!!!!!

[Notcoolanymore]

What do you think has been the most effective in your stack besides laser nizoral minoxdill I'm using those three?

I think the OP said he was going to stay away from these forums for a while.

[thechamp]

What do you think has been the most effective in your stack besides laser nizoral minoxdill I'm using those three?

[Tenma]

Now I did say borderline, to me that means people would look at you and have to scrutinise for a few moments before concluding if your losing your hair. in my opinion this is one of the worst stages of hairloss because your whole identity is in doubt in your mind. If you don't wanna take AAs and you're already on minoxidil, this is what's working for me.

English its not my first language, so i misunderstood earlier what you mean by borderline.

Still, the problem i see with your regimen is the inability to fight the root cause of hairloss. You seem very determined to think otherwise, though.