Conpecia's Indo/Chromo/Minox Log

[Conpecia]

hey justeone, yeah i took a couple days off over the weekend to give my scalp a break. shedding still seems down! shed maybe 10 hairs today rather than the 40 or so i was shedding at the peak of my shed a couple weeks ago.

i'm going to be adding derma rolling to this in the next couple of days. if any of you guys haven't checked that out i HIGHLY recommend reading the trial we're going to begin at btt. here is my planned regimen by September:

1. minox 5% foam 1x daily, 6 days a week
2. derma rolling 1x weekly
3. CB 1x daily (depending on optimal dose, vehicle, etc., could be less frequent)
4. regenepure 2-3x weekly
5. i/c combo 1x daily, 6 days a week


I think this is a killer regimen. I'm attacking mpb from every known angle and boosting regrowth in the best way we know how to at this point.

I will stay on the above regimen (barring side effects) for 6 months. If my loss has not progressed in 6 months, I will book a fue hair transplant with Dr. Rahal, for a dense packing of the hairline. Then, I'll wait for the true cure, knowing that I've done everything I can and it's only a matter of time before superior treatments arrive.

Very excited for the next couple months guys.

[justeone]

hey conpecia , im still applying it , sometimes every other day just to do with slight irritation .. Its definatly the Indo that makes the irritation for me, the chromo applys quite like minox . LOL man I spilt a bit of my chromo like you described the other day . was choked ... lost about 1/3 of the bottle ...still plenty to give it a good test tho . Keep me posted , ttyl

[Conpecia]

But that sounds like nothing. Even 30-40 hairs a day does not sound like much. The problem is, of course, if they are not replaced..

I brush my hair in the morning before washing it to avoid clogging the drain and to try and keep track of how much I shed, and in the morning I usually count around 15-25 hairs. I brush and wash my hair again in the evening before I apply minox and when I brush my hair, I will see another 15-20 hairs or so. I varies, of course, some times I see less than 30 in total and some times I see 50 in the morning alone. I use wax to style my hair, I think most of the hairs I shed during the day get caught by the wax, so I guess it gives a somewhat accurate picture of how much I shed - from the crown anyway.

i agree it's not as much as some here claim to lose, but i'm coming from finasteride where i may have lost 1 hair a day. i'd say i probably lose 50 a day during a shed that i actually see, who knows how many i actually shed.

all i know is my hairline is pushing NW3 and my crown is getting thin. so either way something bad is happening.

i/c irritates my crown. did not apply yesterday and won't apply today to prevent irritation.

[the_dude78]

well i started regenepure and i/c combo at the same time. but prior to indo/chromo i'd say i was shedding 10-15 hairs a day, then for the past month it's been about 30-40, but for the past two days back down to under 10. still, i mean, i could shed 40 tomorrow. who knows. i won't get excited until i haven't shed for a few weeks.

But that sounds like nothing. Even 30-40 hairs a day does not sound like much. The problem is, of course, if they are not replaced..

I brush my hair in the morning before washing it to avoid clogging the drain and to try and keep track of how much I shed, and in the morning I usually count around 15-25 hairs. I brush and wash my hair again in the evening before I apply minox and when I brush my hair, I will see another 15-20 hairs or so. I varies, of course, some times I see less than 30 in total and some times I see 50 in the morning alone. I use wax to style my hair, I think most of the hairs I shed during the day get caught by the wax, so I guess it gives a somewhat accurate picture of how much I shed - from the crown anyway.

[Conpecia]

How much would you say you shed per day before the indo/chromo?

well i started regenepure and i/c combo at the same time. but prior to indo/chromo i'd say i was shedding 10-15 hairs a day, then for the past month it's been about 30-40, but for the past two days back down to under 10. still, i mean, i could shed 40 tomorrow. who knows. i won't get excited until i haven't shed for a few weeks.

[Conpecia]

haven't shed much today either.

[the_dude78]

good news guys: shed today was less than it's been in several weeks. still not too hopeful but i wasn't pulling hair out each time i tested today. it's been roughly 1 month.

How much would you say you shed per day before the indo/chromo?

[Conpecia]

good news guys: shed today was less than it's been in several weeks. still not too hopeful but i wasn't pulling hair out each time i tested today. it's been roughly 1 month.

[walrus]

An interesting read thanks. It's looking more and more like when this is finally cracked minoxidil will be used in conjunction with another agent.

[chimera]

Do you have a reference for that?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3686323/

[Conpecia]

Still shedding substantially.

[walrus]

Somebody just posted a study about minoxidil vs minoxidil+diclofenac. The group using minoxidil+diclofenac get better results than the group using only minoxidil.
The only bad thing is that it was a not so big study, with just 32 participants...

Do you have a reference for that?

[Conpecia]

Update:

****tard that I am I spilled the god damn Indomethacin and lost about 3/4ths of the bottle. Infuriating.

Shedding may be slowing down. Seems like I lost a little less hair today than usual. Will keep updating each day I remember to.

[chimera]

Somebody just posted a study about minoxidil vs minoxidil+diclofenac. The group using minoxidil+diclofenac get better results than the group using only minoxidil.
The only bad thing is that it was a not so big study, with just 32 participants...

Well, If I write this is because diclofenac is supposed to work in very similar to way to indomethacin, they're both COX2 inhibitors (although indomethacin is supposed to be a little bit better, as it is also a week PGD2 agonist that acts as a PGD2 antagonist).

Still, I think the thing about the diclofenac is a good thing... or so i hope...

[StayThick]

Staythick there's just no way all these guys happened to randomly stop their loss on CET and IC combo. People have said its the only thing that stopped their loss beyond fin. I will give it at least 3 months before I pull the plug. The worst thing you can do is just jump from treatment to treatment every week. I am patient. I'm going to go bald one way or another might as well put up a fight and take a risk.

I agree 100% with your last statement. We both will eventually be bald, so I see your point there. I also agree you definitely want to give any new treatment several months before evaluating its effectiveness, but I just can't seem to find concrete evidence this works minus a handful of people using many topicals beyond Indo/Chromo.

Either way, I'll be following your progress. Hopefully your shed dissipates soon.