Baldness cure still ten years away:(

[GiveMeStrength]

I think its definitely possible for a 2014 release date, they set that goal themselves and now they only have Phase III trials to worry about which take anywhere from 12-18 months. Application for approval can apparently be done during Phase III as well, so 2014 is doable. I'm hoping for the best though, I'm not betting on it, but only hoping.

Combining Histogen with Aderans should be perfectly fine if both are safe and both have passed Phase I trials (safety). I wouldn't be concerned especially with Aderans as its your own cells youre dealing with. Histogen I'd be a little more concerned about in regards to the growth factors they inject.

Initially i was more interested in aderans because i felt it would give great density since that's what they were aiming for, but the recent talk about aderans has somewhat turned me away from them, (the whole 60% respond rate). Do you know if they will be giving an update anytime soon for all the phase II trials they conducted?

I was scared of histogen because they were using all sorts of growth factors and chemicals, and it always takes years for tumors to develop and show up.
But I'm getting more and more desperate with everyday so now i just ignore the growth factor part.

Team tokyo is the one i'm really interested in, but they are soo far off, that i feel like it's waste of energy to think about them at the moment.

Any treatment would be welcoming though.

[hellouser]

A 6ft 5 slick bald guy would certainly not look weak in front of 5 ft 8 guy with full head of hair!

Correction:

a 6ft 5, 250lb ripped, tanned AND GOOD LOOKING guy....

The example is pretty poor. Thats like saying Roseanne Barr looks better than a bald woman.... yeah, I donno about that.

[hellouser]

Will Adreans and/or Histogen work for a slick bald head? Any idea?

No clue, but it doesnt look like it will. I have a gut feeling its going to work best for thinning hair, where vellus hair is still present and is turned into terminal.

[baldozer]

You mean that Dwayne Johnson, which is not bald by the way, is the image people have for the average bald guy?

A 6ft 5 slick bald guy would certainly not look weak in front of 5 ft 8 guy with full head of hair!

[baldozer]

Probably Histogen in Asia in 2015. I think thats the earliest date. Aderans was expected to be released next year around Jan-April, though they added another Phase II trial in October which is ending *now* so that might (and probably will) push back the release for another 6 months, so maybe around Sept-Dec. 2014.

Aderans and Histogen combined could give some serious results.

Will Adreans and/or Histogen work for a slick bald head? Any idea?

[clandestine]

Thank u for your reply hellouser, appreciate it.
I think I remember reading Desmond's post about it might not be safe to combine histogen and aderans tho. But who knows since none of these companies gives us a well informed update.

Do u really believe aderans will be out in 2014 tho?

It's hard to say, really. Anyone giving you a direct answer would be speculating.

[hellouser]

Thank u for your reply hellouser, appreciate it.
I think I remember reading Desmond's post about it might not be safe to combine histogen and aderans tho. But who knows since none of these companies gives us a well informed update.

Do u really believe aderans will be out in 2014 tho?

I think its definitely possible for a 2014 release date, they set that goal themselves and now they only have Phase III trials to worry about which take anywhere from 12-18 months. Application for approval can apparently be done during Phase III as well, so 2014 is doable. I'm hoping for the best though, I'm not betting on it, but only hoping.

Combining Histogen with Aderans should be perfectly fine if both are safe and both have passed Phase I trials (safety). I wouldn't be concerned especially with Aderans as its your own cells youre dealing with. Histogen I'd be a little more concerned about in regards to the growth factors they inject.

[Vox]

You mean guys like Dwayne Johnson look weak and old?

You mean that Dwayne Johnson, which is not bald by the way, is the image people have for the average bald guy?

[GiveMeStrength]

Probably Histogen in Asia in 2015. I think thats the earliest date. Aderans was expected to be released next year around Jan-April, though they added another Phase II trial in October which is ending *now* so that might (and probably will) push back the release for another 6 months, so maybe around Sept-Dec. 2014.

Aderans and Histogen combined could give some serious results.

Thank u for your reply hellouser, appreciate it.
I think I remember reading Desmond's post about it might not be safe to combine histogen and aderans tho. But who knows since none of these companies gives us a well informed update.

Do u really believe aderans will be out in 2014 tho?

[hellouser]

Also, does anyone know what will come to market sooner, histogen or bim?

Probably Histogen in Asia in 2015. I think thats the earliest date. Aderans was expected to be released next year around Jan-April, though they added another Phase II trial in October which is ending *now* so that might (and probably will) push back the release for another 6 months, so maybe around Sept-Dec. 2014.

Aderans and Histogen combined could give some serious results.

[GiveMeStrength]

God give us hair or give us strength to face this curse!

Hi, just joined, been reading/following up since 2011 tho. I am a female, 26, and have been affected by this depressing hair thinning curse. I've always had high hopes that one day I will wake up and the hear that baldness has been cured, that day has yet to come

I know exactly how u guys feel about losing hair, my younger brother is probably a Norwood 4,5 my dad is a Norwood 7 and I have thinned out a lot myself. When I look at photos just from a few years ago I can see how much I have thinned out, I try to hide it but I'm afraid by the time these "cures" come to market it will be too late for many of us

Just to let u guys know, even tho it sucks to be bald, it sucks more to be a female thinning out. U might think there is more compassion and sympathy for females but there isn't. Bald is bald, regardless of race, age, gender.

With that said, May cannot come soon enough, we are all counting on histogen to save us!
Also, does anyone know what will come to market sooner, histogen or bim?

[baldozer]

Although you have a point in what you say, we should not forget this: baldness is related in the mind of most people, consciously or subconsciously, with disease and old age. This is why it is so devastating at the psychological level for many AGA patients, especially when it starts early.

Also, there is always the identity counterpart to it, which is not just a procedural detail.

You mean guys like Dwayne Johnson look weak and old?

[Vox]

Losing hair is very different for a female. You can see that many women still look quite good bald, just that they don't look attractive. The reason being that they look like men bald. On the other hand, a man still looks like a man bald, so it doesn't affect his attractiveness that much I think.

Although you have a point in what you say, we should not forget this: baldness is related in the mind of most people, consciously or subconsciously, with disease and old age. This is why it is so devastating at the psychological level for many AGA patients, especially when it starts early.

Also, there is always the identity counterpart to it, which is not just a procedural detail.

[baldozer]

It may be an exaggeration, but it's not THAT far off. I have heard many female cancer survivors say that the most emotionally devastating thing about the whole ordeal was when they lost their hair from chemo. It's not necessarily that they care so much about how they look, but it's the visceral agony that comes with being stripped of their identity and femininity.

Losing hair is very different for a female. You can see that many women still look quite good bald, just that they don't look attractive. The reason being that they look like men bald. On the other hand, a man still looks like a man bald, so it doesn't affect his attractiveness that much I think.

[hellouser]

I mean many cancer patients care more about the outward appearance of losing their hair then the fact they are actually dying.

Bollocks.

But thats not to say that hair loss doesnt affect them either. Going through cancer and chemo is a devastating ordeal... more of like a complete package burden; your weak, your life is on the line, you lose weight, you look malnourished, your hair is gone, you know could die.... your family is already mourning......

I have a friend thats going through chemo right now and lost all of his hair. He actually doesnt look bad bald, a lot like Don LaFontaine. I asked him how he feels about his hair being gone... and he says he easily prefers having it, it gives him identity. But he wasnt bothered by it as much as everything else... or everything else all at once.