Baldness cure still ten years away:(

[Pentarou]

I think CB 03 01 could prevent MPB if it turns out to be strong enough with a good enough vehicle then it could work topically with little sides. I think androgens are still one of the best bets for preventing MPB.
Regrowing lots of hair is a whole different ball game. Luckily I am in a position to be happy just keeping my hair.

Are they making any progress with that? Has anything been announced over the last year or so? Any presentations at the congress in May? It's too quiet on that front.

[Thinning87]

for how much longer

[burtandernie]

I think CB 03 01 could prevent MPB if it turns out to be strong enough with a good enough vehicle then it could work topically with little sides. I think androgens are still one of the best bets for preventing MPB.
Regrowing lots of hair is a whole different ball game. Luckily I am in a position to be happy just keeping my hair.

[Jasari]

Cure, treatment, something to stop further loss.... Whatever, it's all the same. And so far, we have none of those, well, except for something that barely works for most people (Fin and Minox).

Technically something that stops future loss is a cure - It means that anyone who is about to start thinning quite frankly won't.

Unfortunately the currently generation of hair loss sufferers getting 'cured' isn't the same thing as 'a cure' for hair loss.

[VictimOfDHT]

Why does everything have to be a 'cure'? As long as new treatments emerge that maintain and regrow decently and safely, preferably without daily application/dosage, that should do most of us through until we're all dribbling and senile.

Cure, treatment, something to stop further loss.... Whatever, it's all the same. And so far, we have none of those, well, except for something that barely works for most people (Fin and Minox).

[burtandernie]

Yeah i would be more then happy just to keep the hair I have my head right now even if I cant regrow or get back every single hair I used to have.
Preventing MPB would be a cure to me. Someday we will go from NW 7 back to NW 0 with hair multiplication or some variant of that, but its always going to be a pain to do, expensive, and just like a hair transplant today. Its much much better to keep your hair then lose it all and try to get it all back

[Kirby_]

Why does everything have to be a 'cure'? As long as new treatments emerge that maintain and regrow decently and safely, preferably without daily application/dosage, that should do most of us through until we're all dribbling and senile.

[Morbo]

Everytime I read these articles about a 'baldness cure'-breakthrough I have to think about this article I encountered on a forum during one of my 'google searches' about a finding of Dr. George Cotsarelis and his team. More than half of the people on that hairloss forum (which greatly reminded me of this forum and the euphoria during the early replicel reports when I joined this forum 2 years ago) were going like "alright 2 years... 5 years at max ... in 10 baldness it will definitely be eliminated!"
... unfortunately the article and the forum post were from 2004.
9 years later, it's still zippo.

Than I have to think about this article I read from 2011:

The "growth factor", sh-VEGF, that Nanogen claims to have discovered, and which can supposedly "reawaken dormant hair follicles", is also significant, according to Farjo. "A growth factor sets off protein in the body that triggers various processes... they flow in the body naturally. But a growth factor can also retard growth as well as promote it. The research is all about trying to figure out how to introduce more of the positive growth factors."

Farjo emphasises that "curing" baldness – which, after all, is completely natural and therefore doesn't require a cure – is still a long way off. "We definitely have a lot more information now than five or 10 years ago – but curing baldness could, in the long run, be as difficult as curing cancer."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/apr/17/beauty-stem-cells

Let's be honest, everytime we read these articles about 10 years, it basically means they have no concrete trail to follow, but they just think there is 'something'. When I was a kid and people were talking about 10 years, they were using it in the context of flying cars, robots and space colonization. 10 years is a long time.

I do believe that one day there will be a cure. But by that time I'll be long old, bald and grey and perhaps wont be beating myself up about a future partner, but when my grandkids are coming by.^^

[hellouser]

Who gives a s**t about the next generation?


People, don't waste your time waiting for some miracle cure or treatment. It's not going to happen any time soon. Call me a pessimist or whatever. THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING. Saying it's going to take 10 years is also being "optimistic" -not that I believe in such absurdities and superstitions such as optimism and pessimism. As many of you know, "in 10 years..." is something we've been hearing for the past 30 years if not more. And we still don't have a cure. Yeah yeah yeah , we have better knowledge and technology these days blah blah blah. We want to see results. And while we might be unto something, we can almost be assured (unfortunately) it aint going to be in the near future.

If you can afford it, go and get an HT. That's the closest you're going to be to having hair on your head. It's not a perfect solution but it's the only one we have and it IS still better than being bald, and better than being tortured by your hair loss worries.

You should take this rage, walk into an Aderans office and throw it at the board of executives.

It'll be far more productive than slamming any companies efforts on a public forum.

[john2399]

Who gives a s**t about the next generation?


People, don't waste your time waiting for some miracle cure or treatment. It's not going to happen any time soon. Call me a pessimist or whatever. THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING. Saying it's going to take 10 years is also being "optimistic" -not that I believe in such absurdities and superstitions such as optimism and pessimism. As many of you know, "in 10 years..." is something we've been hearing for the past 30 years if not more. And we still don't have a cure. Yeah yeah yeah , we have better knowledge and technology these days blah blah blah. We want to see results. And while we might be unto something, we can almost be assured (unfortunately) it aint going to be in the near future.

If you can afford it, go and get an HT. That's the closest you're going to be to having hair on your head. It's not a perfect solution but it's the only one we have and it IS still better than being bald, and better than being tortured by your hair loss worries.

We still have that scarless transplant to look forward too. Better than nothing.

[VictimOfDHT]

Who gives a s**t about the next generation?


People, don't waste your time waiting for some miracle cure or treatment. It's not going to happen any time soon. Call me a pessimist or whatever. THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING. Saying it's going to take 10 years is also being "optimistic" -not that I believe in such absurdities and superstitions such as optimism and pessimism. As many of you know, "in 10 years..." is something we've been hearing for the past 30 years if not more. And we still don't have a cure. Yeah yeah yeah , we have better knowledge and technology these days blah blah blah. We want to see results. And while we might be unto something, we can almost be assured (unfortunately) it aint going to be in the near future.

If you can afford it, go and get an HT. That's the closest you're going to be to having hair on your head. It's not a perfect solution but it's the only one we have and it IS still better than being bald, and better than being tortured by your hair loss worries.

[john2399]

The next bald generation are going be some lucky pricks.

[youngin]

Thank Desmond. Nice to see someone keep a positive outlook!

[Desmond84]

Hey guys, just to lift up the mood a bit, here's a fact:

10 years ago when ppl mentioned a baldness cure, they had no idea, LITERALLY no idea what the cure was! They threw around words like hair cloning and hair multiplication without even knowing how to achieve it or what are the mechanisms of hair regeneration!

Aderans & Intercytex said it's all about DP cells! Replicel said it's the dermal sheath cup cells! Follica thought it might be Lithium plus wound rolling!!!

They were experimenting but had no hard data! no facts!

Today, we have a hair germ method that produces a natural hair density of 80-120 hairs/cm2! It connects with all surrounding structures! Even gets goose bumps! We did it with both mice cells and human cells! We are capable of multiplying DP cells and stem cells. We can turn skin cells into hair stem cells! We have come up with a bio-scaffold for the stem cell niche! We can mass produce DP cells 35 times in just one passage without affecting their trichogenicity!

All in all, we know ALOT that we didn't know in 2003! In 2003, these breakthrough were unheard of and god-like!

Regenerative medicine is the FUTURE! Research findings are growing exponentially! There isn't one day that you would visit the "Stem cell Blog" and not hear some amazing breakthrough by scientists!

They're manufacturing steaks grown in a lab for gods sake and will be releasing it in June 2013!

So, maybe things are not so bad! I think ppl are more worried about the uncertainty than the actual 10 year mark!

I can promise you guys, that the science is now there! We can do it! It's just a matter of doing all the ground work to make sure it's safe! and for me waiting some 7-8 years to be sure is safe is fair enough!

In the meantime, it's not like nothing else will be available! There are heaps of products in the later stages of trials! They'll be here! Don't worry!

[Kirby_]

Anyone know when CB 03 01 will be out on market?

I think 2016/2017 is the earliest possible release date last time I checked.

So hope that this stuff hits the market as an OTC treatment one day. My concern is that it won't, and end up like RU-58841.