Started RU 3 Weeks ago

[stillgothair]

thanks for that again mate, just tried ordering from kane but when i went to transfer money to there account they ask for the street name and number, so i can't seem to get it in australia do you guys have any other reliable sources, sorry for all the questions i'm new with all this and still learning how to use this website

[clandestine]

Wonderful contribution, hellouser.

[StayThick]

If that doesn't answer your question, don't know what will. I know it did for me.

Great stuff Hellouser.

[hellouser]

thanks for the reply mate appreciate that, do i have to mix the ru with anything anytips

Here you go:

Things You'll Need:

1) Get 10 grams of RU from Kane.

2) At the same time order off of eBay or Amazon a 0.001 gram digital scale. You NEED this to correctly measure 30-100mg of RU for each application. These typically cost between $20-30 US, heres the one I use: http://i50.tinypic.com/23j28wn.jpg

3) Buy yourself the following items at the drug store;
-1ml dropper ($2-3.00 max)
-100ml or more of propylene glycol (aka PG) (I paid $3.10 for 200ml)
-Everclear alcohol. Make sure it is 95% alcohol/190 Proof. http://tinypic.com/r/246rjmd/6

4) Obtain a very small bottle that holds no more than 20ml of liquid, you'll need this to make your daily mix of RU with PG and Everclear. I use a small 'Testors' bottle (I bought it containing paint but knew I would dump it out and use it for mixing RU). Refer here for my testors bottle:
Image: http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn....os/8804T-2.jpg

http://www.newcenturyhobbies.com/Testors_Decal_Setting_Solution_1_4_oz_Bottle_8804T_p/8804t.htm

Although, a company called 'Aztek' also makes small bottles, check here:
Image: http://www2.gpmd.com/image/t/tesr5330.jpg

http://www3.omnimodels.com/cgi-bin/woi0001p?&P=WR&I=TESR5330

5) Buy yourself a small measuring spoon, you don't need to go balls out on this, just get something cheap but SMALL even from a cheap 'Dollar Store'. You'll need to scoop up the RU powder somehow.

Note: here's an image of some of the stuff thats used in my arsenal against MPB:



Whats is a 'Vehicle' ?

RU powder cannot be applied directly on the scalp with the hopes of being effective. It needs to penetrate the skin and works it magic where the hair follicle lives. This can only be done when RU is mixed into a solution like Everclear or KB and dissolved completely. Your solution should end up looking completely clear. This is known as a vehicle. In this guide I show and explain how to use RU with Everclear. There is also another popular one (as mentioned previously) called KB. You can buy this in group buys or elsewhere (Kane, MPB Treatments) and mix RU in that. KB is a prepared vehicle, so you won't need to mix any alcohols and PG together which is a bonus, but the downside is you don't have control over the ratio between alcohol/pg.

How To Mix:

1) Using your digital scale and scoop, measure however much you'd like to use. Don't use more than 100mg *ever* although its good to start off for the first month or so at a higher dosage like 100mg only to kickstart the whole process and any potential regrowth. Make sure to use the TARE function when you've got your small plate on the scale, obviously this cannot be weighed as part of the RU powder so you'll need to be at 0.000 weight before beginning.

2) Dump the RU powder into your small bottle.

3) Using your 1ml dropper, pour 0.7ml of everclear into the bottle and let the RU mix with it for 10minutes or so. I typically mix the RU and everclear a little more by squeezing in and squeezing out the mixed solution with the dropper. Having it just sit doesn't desolve it completely. I do this for about 30 seconds though.

4) Using your 1ml dropper again, pour in 0.3ml of PG into the bottle and mix it again with the RU and everclear. I typically wait a couple minutes for it to mix in completely.

Youre ready to apply.

Application:

1) Its absolute BEST to apply mixed and prepared RU after youve washed your hair/scalp and your hair is completely dry. Try to apply it within 30 minutes of washing your hair because your scalp produces an oily substance called sebum which will lessen the efficacy of RU penetrating the skin and blocking DHT topically.

2) If using on your hairline, be aware that the RU solution is a bit watery so its best to apply WITHIN and behind the hairline. You'll want to preserve what may be receded but potentially also regrow any hair. This way, youre not just applying it the slick bald spots, you want to maintain as well! If you apply it just outside the hairline to regrow anything, you'll find that a lot of runs down your noggin and go to waste.

Tip: Exfoliate your scalp! This is actually good because it removes old skin and lets you fight DHT even better. Try to buy yourself an exfoliating cream. Theyre not too expensive, maybe $25 at the most but you won't use much of it anyway, just around the hairline/temples or wherever needed. I typically exfoliate before showering. Let the cream sit for about 1-2 minutes though.

Storage:

Keep your RU powder sealed and in the fridge or better yet in the freezer to have the efficacy last for as long as possible. I've read that RU can withstand several weeks in normal room temperature before it goes bad, but don't risk that and just store it in the fridge/freezer. Also, make sure it is kept AWAY from light and sealed tight blocking out air. I have mine stored in a small plastic bottle closed tight but I also put the bottle into a ziplock bag as well and in the fridge.

Notes:

Try not to buy anything thats an 'all-in-one' as the efficacy in that is pretty much crap compared to fresh daily batches of mixed RU. Its best to do this process every day, but 3-5 days worth of batches prepared is fine as well. It is tedious at first, but soon enough it will become pretty quick and you wont need to use the digital scale and you'll end up just eye-balling it. Again, try to store it in the fridge and away from light and air. I suppose one of those old 35mm film roll containers could work quite well against light, but keep it double sealed regardless.

How long will RU58841 last?
It depends on the concentration. The higher concentration, the better the efficacy, the shorter it will last you and the more its going to cost you. Its also going to depend how many times a day you apply and if you apply more than 1ml per application. 10mg of RU in 1ml is useless. Don't expect results. 20mg isnt going to do much either, so don't bother. I wouldn't go below 50mg.

I've upped my dosage to 100mg/1ml and apply once daily. So, do the math;

10grams (10,000mg) / 100mg = 100 applications

Since I use RU once daily, that obviously gives me 100 days worth of usage, so a little over 3 months. If you buy from Kane, 10g will cost you $225, or $75/month.

[stillgothair]

thanks for the reply mate appreciate that, do i have to mix the ru with anything anytips

[jlantern]

Kane (search for The Kane Shop on google)



Start low, around 20mg and work your way up.

I started at 100mg, but I seem to be super human to DHT inhibitors. I take 1.25 mg fin daily no sides no sexual problems. I also lift weight and do cardio everyday and have no seen reduction is mass. Hell even people have said I look bigger since I started RU.

[jlantern]

Where did you purchase the KB solution? So you haven't experienced any customs issues with the RU being shipped to the US from Kane?

The KB is also purchased from Kane but if you buy it bulk he ships it separately due to it not needing expedited shipping. I've purchased twice from Kane no problem. His customer service is awesome.

[StayThick]

I figured I post an update to my progress.

I've dropped down from 100 x 2 ED to 100 x 1 ED. I want to see if there is a change, in the first 3 weeks I only used 100mg, upped to 200mg while seeing continued results. I will observe my progress on 100mg. I suspect the same results.

Ive seen a bit of shedding around the temples mostly thin or miniaturized hairs. I think im at the point where the new growth you can see in the pictures may becoming terminal. I plan on getting a hair cut this week ad will take more photos 2 weeks after to get the right length in the last picture.

I just purchased my second batch of RU last week(TheKaneShop). The KB I purchased in bulk was delivered already and the RU is in the states and on its way. 5 days plus 48 for processing is damn fast.

Where did you purchase the KB solution? So you haven't experienced any customs issues with the RU being shipped to the US from Kane?

[hellouser]

can anyone tell me where i can get good ru,

Kane (search for The Kane Shop on google)

and can anyone tell me if i had reduce the dosage of finasteride that the sides would be less,

Start low, around 20mg and work your way up.

[stillgothair]

new guy need help

hi guys im new here been dealing with hair loss for the last 3 years, and seems to be getting worse but no one really notices it except me, i have tried lipogaine but it seem to stuff up my eyesight so i had stop it, I also had a go at finasteride the doctor recommended i take 5mg once a week within the second week I realized a bit of gyno and sexual side effects, so i would really like to have a go at ru can anyone tell me where i can get good ru, and can anyone tell me if i had reduce the dosage of finasteride that the sides would be less,

[jlantern]

I figured I post an update to my progress.

I've dropped down from 100 x 2 ED to 100 x 1 ED. I want to see if there is a change, in the first 3 weeks I only used 100mg, upped to 200mg while seeing continued results. I will observe my progress on 100mg. I suspect the same results.

Ive seen a bit of shedding around the temples mostly thin or miniaturized hairs. I think im at the point where the new growth you can see in the pictures may becoming terminal. I plan on getting a hair cut this week ad will take more photos 2 weeks after to get the right length in the last picture.

I just purchased my second batch of RU last week(TheKaneShop). The KB I purchased in bulk was delivered already and the RU is in the states and on its way. 5 days plus 48 for processing is damn fast.

[jlantern]

When will mpbtreatments start shipping RU to U.S. customers?

If you search the forum for that question you will find that they used to ship RU to the US and now do not. However, I would imagine directing that question directly to MPB in the form of an email would yield a more accurate response.

Does The Kane Shop pre mix RU for you if you ask them to? And how much would 20 grams of RU last?

No, Kane does not sell a premixed solution, again you will have to ask him directly if he will mix it for you(or you can buy the KB from him and mix it yourself.) The latter part of your question is solved by simple division. Take the number of mg you expect to take in 1 day and divid that by 10,000. I hope I could help!

[PatientlyWaiting]

When will mpbtreatments start shipping RU to U.S. customers?

Does The Kane Shop pre mix RU for you if you ask them to? And how much would 20 grams of RU last?

[jlantern]

Update to my usage of RU. I have noticed zero shedding the last week. Today I had 10+ hairs after applying the topical's. The hairs were long vellus looking hairs so that is good.

The only weird thing is. the hair that has shed seems to be thinner near the follicle and the length thin seems to correspond to when I started RU. Thoughts?

[clandestine]

I dont know yet, everything is still up in the air. Only reason why I'm continuing to use CB is because I don't want to waste time without it. However I am concerned that the near boiling point of water temperature may affect efficacy. Lets hope not. But the whole form debacle won't last for long.

I'm not sure about DMI/DMSO, you'll have to give it a shot.

Sounds good, thanks for the quick replies.

All the best.