Nizoral - probably made my situation worse

[LPSboxing]

I experienced the same thing when I used revita. Lost ground without shedding.

Keto-burn.

After one wash with niz my head hurt; scalp can tolerate regenpure which has keto in it.

must be the other harsh ingredients, like the hydrochloridic acid (sorry 4 the spelling )

[ccmethinning]

I'm someone who is prone to very irritated scalp. Ever since I was 12 or 13 my scalp would get severely red and inflamed.

Since about age 16 I've been using Head and Shoulders anti-dandruff 2-in-1 and it has kept the inflammation down. I still have bad dandruff though.

I use Nizoral when I find the time, but it always seems to add like 10 minutes to my showers so I don't use it very often. When I do use it though, my scalp feels amazing.

[yeahyeahyeah]

I agree that often daily shampoo is not needed.

In fact, I've been using nizoral and nothing else. Just water on the off days.

I was a HUGE sebum producer, but using nizoral my sebum production crashed dramatically.

The last time I used nizoral was almost 4 days ago, and my hair are still dry and skinny looking.
The scalp is shiny though.



I'm going to try an hair conditioner starting tomorrow. And trash nizoral, obviously.

I experienced the same thing when I used revita. Lost ground without shedding.

Keto-burn.

After one wash with niz my head hurt; scalp can tolerate regenpure which has keto in it.

[LPSboxing]

You know what, now that I think about it, I did notice an annoying change in texture when I got on keto shampoo. That "fried" look definitely rings a bell.

These days it's much better but my washing routine is very different. Back then I used keto shampoo 3-4 times weekly, and on off days I was using dercos shampoo. Now I use keto 1-2 times weekly, and on most off days I don't use any chemical at all. Just running water and rubbing. Once in awhile if I really feel the need, I'll use sulfate-free glycerin soap (unless of course it's a keto day).
I know it sounds counter-intuitive but it's actually working well for me. My scalp seems to produce considerably less oil/sebum now, and the texture of my hair is pretty good at this point. In fact my hair stays cleaner longer; when I used shampoos every day I would have noticeable buildup on my scalp by the next day.
I'm not saying this would work for you (it sounds like maybe you should talk to a doctor about your symptoms), but truth be told, I'm starting to think that most people do not need to shampoo every day by any means. (People who need to rinse out minoxidil, keratin fibers, etc. are probably a different story though)

I agree that often daily shampoo is not needed.

In fact, I've been using nizoral and nothing else. Just water on the off days.

I was a HUGE sebum producer, but using nizoral my sebum production crashed dramatically.

The last time I used nizoral was almost 4 days ago, and my hair are still dry and skinny looking.
The scalp is shiny though.



I'm going to try an hair conditioner starting tomorrow. And trash nizoral, obviously.

[25 going on 65]

thank you very much for reporting your experience.

I think what I am experiencing is not shedding loss, but Nizoral just fryed the hell out of my hair even using it every 4 days or more.

That's why they look a lot more thin and the texture is just shit. Also, immediately after I use Nizoral they look thick, but the next day as soon as the cosmetic effect wears off they look awful.

You know what, now that I think about it, I did notice an annoying change in texture when I got on keto shampoo. That "fried" look definitely rings a bell.

These days it's much better but my washing routine is very different. Back then I used keto shampoo 3-4 times weekly, and on off days I was using dercos shampoo. Now I use keto 1-2 times weekly, and on most off days I don't use any chemical at all. Just running water and rubbing. Once in awhile if I really feel the need, I'll use sulfate-free glycerin soap (unless of course it's a keto day).
I know it sounds counter-intuitive but it's actually working well for me. My scalp seems to produce considerably less oil/sebum now, and the texture of my hair is pretty good at this point. In fact my hair stays cleaner longer; when I used shampoos every day I would have noticeable buildup on my scalp by the next day.
I'm not saying this would work for you (it sounds like maybe you should talk to a doctor about your symptoms), but truth be told, I'm starting to think that most people do not need to shampoo every day by any means. (People who need to rinse out minoxidil, keratin fibers, etc. are probably a different story though)

[LPSboxing]

OP: Your story 100% mirrors my experience with Niz. My hairloss was pretty stable as well when I added Niz to my regimen. I stayed on it for about 6 months before I read a post from Spex where he mentioned that Niz can be bad for certain people and cause massive shedding. When I would apply Rogaine at night, I would find at least 10 hairs in my hands. Well, about a month after discontinuing Niz I find 0-2 hairs in my hands (and most of the time zero).

The good news is your hair should grow back after you discontinue using it. My hair looks WAY better than it did while I was using Niz. I hope you have the same experience after you stop using it.

thank you very much for reporting your experience.

[lalala]

OP: Your story 100% mirrors my experience with Niz. My hairloss was pretty stable as well when I added Niz to my regimen. I stayed on it for about 6 months before I read a post from Spex where he mentioned that Niz can be bad for certain people and cause massive shedding. When I would apply Rogaine at night, I would find at least 10 hairs in my hands. Well, about a month after discontinuing Niz I find 0-2 hairs in my hands (and most of the time zero).

The good news is your hair should grow back after you discontinue using it. My hair looks WAY better than it did while I was using Niz. I hope you have the same experience after you stop using it.

[LPSboxing]

I seem to recall shedding a mix of miniaturized-looking hairs and also pretty strong-looking ones. It's hard to say for sure, but I did think it began improving after some time. At the very least the shed came to an end, and overall I felt my hair looked a little better--hard to say if it was just healthier or if keto was actually fighting MPB in any meaningful way. I wish I could be more helpful.
Part of the complication is that I started finasteride within maybe a year of the keto (give or take some months), so beyond that point it got impossible to judge how well keto worked or how it affected my shedding cycles.

thank you very much for reporting your experience.

I think what I am experiencing is not shedding loss, but Nizoral just fryed the hell out of my hair even using it every 4 days or more.

That's why they look a lot more thin and the texture is just shit. Also, immediately after I use Nizoral they look thick, but the next day as soon as the cosmetic effect wears off they look awful.

[25 going on 65]

Did it regrow back, maybe even stronger? what type of hair were you shedding?

I seem to recall shedding a mix of miniaturized-looking hairs and also pretty strong-looking ones. It's hard to say for sure, but I did think it began improving after some time. At the very least the shed came to an end, and overall I felt my hair looked a little better--hard to say if it was just healthier or if keto was actually fighting MPB in any meaningful way. I wish I could be more helpful.
Part of the complication is that I started finasteride within maybe a year of the keto (give or take some months), so beyond that point it got impossible to judge how well keto worked or how it affected my shedding cycles.

[LPSboxing]

I went through a shed on keto shampoo that seemed to go on for months, though better some weeks than others. I was definitely overusing it so I don't know how much my experience applies to your situation. But it did eventually stop, even though I was still using it too frequently for some time.

Did it regrow back, maybe even stronger? what type of hair were you shedding?

[Tracy C]

Can I ask why keto shampoo should be followed with conditioner? Is it just to treat dryness?

Nizoral is a great medicated shampoo that helps a lot of people - but it can dry out your hair and scalp, and it can male your hair loss worse if you over use it. If you use the 2% only once per week, you are typically fine but it is still a good idea to use a good quality moisturizing conditioner to prevent the drying out effect.

[25 going on 65]

well....I'm VERY pissed off and depressed.

My hair situation was more or less stable since 2 years, without using anything.
In march I had been reading a lot about the fabulous nizoral and I decided to try it.
I have used it for about a 'cycle' ( 4 weeks ), I thought it was helping me because I was noticing almost zero loss during the day/passing my hand through the hair etc but I just did a 'check' of my hair with lights and double mirrors and MY HAIR HAS NEVER BEEN IN MORE SHITTY CONDITIONS.

Now my left temple area is fading quickly, in an asymmetric way, and in general all my top looks a lot more thin and see-through.
All this after years of very stable situation.

Now, this could be a massive coincidence and it would have happened even without nizoral, but it's really suspicious.

Or maybe this could be the famous initial shedding that some talk about ( nizoral made me shed a lot of miniaturized hair ). It looks like the ones left are think but I lack coverage and the scalp is much more visible.

I really hope this is reversible and I'm gonna trash the nizoral now. Better safe than sorry. It made my scalp mildly red and sore, even using it only 1-2 times a week and for a 2-3 minutes application.

any opinion / suggestion is very welcome because I feel shitty and even more depressed.

I went through a shed on keto shampoo that seemed to go on for months, though better some weeks than others. I was definitely overusing it so I don't know how much my experience applies to your situation. But it did eventually stop, even though I was still using it too frequently for some time.

[25 going on 65]

Can I ask why keto shampoo should be followed with conditioner? Is it just to treat dryness?

[LPSboxing]

Sounds like your scalp got inflammed which could be what is causing hairloss.

Try 'regenpure' instead.

yeah but the strange thing is that I am NOT visually shedding.

If I were to judge only by the amount of hair I am shedding, I'd say things are going well.

BUT on visual inspection my hair look thin. clumpy and see-through.

I'm starting to think that the aggressivness of nizoral just shrinked the hell out of my shafts.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Better safe than sorry. It made my scalp mildly red and sore, even using it only 1-2 times a week and for a 2-3 minutes application.

any opinion / suggestion is very welcome because I feel shitty and even more depressed.

Sounds like your scalp got inflammed which could be what is causing hairloss.

Try 'regenpure' instead.