Propecia and its effects.

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  • sausage
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    Originally posted by chrisis
    Yeah I'm definitely keen to hear what they have to say. If it's positive it might change my mind about having a hair transplant, but that said it would still take up to 3-4 years to come to market. Can you wait that long? If I was 20, I'd say yes. At 28, I'm not so sure.
    Umm thats a tough decision to make, I am 27 so am in a similar position to you.

    If it was pretty much guaranteed to come out in 3-4 years from now then I would wait. But even if the results are very positive I doubt we will have a solid date for when the cure could come to market.

    I have just started taking Propecia and I will see how that goes as well.

    So at the moment I am waiting on Propecia to work its magic on me and also Replicel to give the balding world some good news.

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  • chrisis
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    Originally posted by sausage
    Replicel will have some results of their research next month and if their news is positive I won't be getting a hair transplant.
    Yeah I'm definitely keen to hear what they have to say. If it's positive it might change my mind about having a hair transplant, but that said it would still take up to 3-4 years to come to market. Can you wait that long? If I was 20, I'd say yes. At 28, I'm not so sure.

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  • sausage
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    Finesteride drugs are now going to carry a prostate cancer warning as they can increase the risk of getting a serious cancer called high-grade prostate cancer. Whic is a rare cancer. It is thought the increased risk of getting this cancer through taking Fin is small.

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  • sausage
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    Well I am thinking of getting a hair transplant at some point.

    Replicel will have some results of their research next month and if their news is positive I won't be getting a hair transplant.

    So fingers crossed.

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  • chrisis
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    Originally posted by DAVE52
    That's why when I see guys get HT's to dense up the hairline ONLy I wonder what they will look like in 10 yrs
    I suppose it's a risk some of us feel it's worth taking. Perhaps within 10 years we'll have a cure. I do wonder how those of us who choose to have hair transplants will feel if there's a simpler and less invasive remedy just around the corner.

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  • justeone
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    Hey guys , just wanted to share my finasteride story...
    currently 25 years old . Got a prescription for Proscar about 6 months ago and have been taking approx 1.25 mg Monday - Wed- Friday..skipping the weekends..a leading hair restoration Dr said to take it this way. . I have not had any side effects yet..and hope I won't get any. I was also reading somewhere that .25mg daily or eod is just as effective for stopping hair loss as 1mg a day... I feel that it is having a positive effect on my hair, ive noticed less shedding and my current hair line seems to be holding.
    Anyway , I think 1mg a day of finasteride is too much...no wonder why so many people get sides off this drug...its building up in our systems and blocking our penis chi . Personally, I started with a 3 week loading phase of half the dose I take now ,for I was terrified of the side effects. I think everyone should do this just to find out how it works with your body..anyways guys , thanks for listening ... now i pray for a cure. amen

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  • DAVE52
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    Originally posted by chrisis

    I'm puzzled why we have a zillion excuses about what is causing these side effects and avoid the fact that finasteride is intentionally taken to disrupt the male hormonal system. There's no smoke without fire. Keep the theories coming. I'll grab some popcorn.
    The people who are lucky and don't get any side effects will say it's perfectly safe and to take it

    I guess unless you take it and see if you get the side effects you'll never know

    But soem of us do experience them

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  • DAVE52
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    Originally posted by chrisis
    I'm hopefully I won't lose my crown.[/IMG]
    So was I

    Once it starts , it keeps going

    It's never ending until it 's all gone .

    That's why when I see guys get HT's to dense up the hairline ONLy I wonder what they will look like in 10 yrs

    And I am one of 2 % who has side effects , so Im f*cked there too

    Good luck in whatever you coose to

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  • chrisis
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    I'm hopefully I won't lose my crown. From the back I have the hair of a teenager, it's just my stupid receded bits also the grandfather on mother's side apparently didn't lose his crown but did have a receded hairline like mine.

    As for anxiety/stress about hair loss causing an impairment to my sexual health: doubtful. As I've repeated on the forum several times, I didn't experience any problems until 2-3 months after starting finasteride. It's not like my stress suddenly heightened at that time. Makes no sense.

    I'm puzzled why we have a zillion excuses about what is causing these side effects and avoid the fact that finasteride is intentionally taken to disrupt the male hormonal system. There's no smoke without fire. Keep the theories coming. I'll grab some popcorn.

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  • DAVE52
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    Originally posted by chrisis

    I understand finasteride is more beneficial for the crown and I have zero loss there anyway. I will be looking at getting a hair transplant to fix my hairline in the near future.Thanks for your post, Soothsayer.
    Be prepared that as you age you will most probbaly lose your crown hair also

    I did

    Now I sport the bald crown and the stress, anxiety of walking around with hair in the front 1/2 or third of my head and a bald crown is nagging on me .

    Hairloss s*cks

    I wish I had the balls to buzz or shave it all off and just say F*ck it and get on with my life

    But I now have the happy face scar to deal with

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  • DAVE52
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    Originally posted by chrisis
    Those days seem to be long gone and I blame finasteride entirely..
    Could be the anxiety / stress you are feeing about your hairloss

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  • chrisis
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    I also want to make the point: 2% sounds like a low figure. It is. However, let's say it's even 3% inaccurate - feasible considering the trials to date have been limited in number and we don't know much about the methodology or potential for bias.

    So, if the number of men suffering side effects was even 5% rather than 2%, we would see 2.5x the anticipated number of men reporting adverse health implications. Accuse me of jumping to conclusions but I think this is exactly what is happening.

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  • chrisis
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    Originally posted by captainmoon
    I'm not suggesting that side effects are not real. As far as I'm concerned, they ARE -- in roughly about 2% of men like study after study has shown. You may very well be part of that 2%.
    2% is equivalent to placebo. If you think I'm part of a 2% minority of men, you're implying that the drug is harmless and any side effects are psychological in nature, rather than a pharmacological response.

    It's amazing the trust you place in this magical 2% figure.

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  • captainmoon
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    Originally posted by chrisis
    All well and good except not applicable in my case, and not applicable in the case of a friend. We took the drug thinking the side effects were negligible and still experienced them.

    In my case it took 2-3 months before I noticed any changes. At the beginning I actually had a higher than usual libido.

    Kinda blows a big gaping hole through your entire argument.
    I'm not suggesting that side effects are not real. As far as I'm concerned, they ARE -- in roughly about 2% of men like study after study has shown. You may very well be part of that 2%.

    All I'm saying is that there is a lot of fear mongering when it comes to this drug and that many men who believe something is wrong with them may just be killing themselves through their anxiety. Reading through some of the stories on Propecia Help, this is clear as day to me.

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  • chrisis
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    I've been off finasteride for around a month. I agree with your assessment and recommendation. I'm using Nizoral and minoxidil and that seems to be helping my hairline somewhat. I understand finasteride is more beneficial for the crown and I have zero loss there anyway. I will be looking at getting a hair transplant to fix my hairline in the near future.

    Thanks for your post, Soothsayer.

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