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I'm on it and after the first week of mild ball tingle I have had NO side effects. "I was with a girl during that time and it was just weird. I wouldn't get rock hard." You were with ONE girl in six months? Sounds like you're lacking testosterone and the know how and prowess with women to control yourself, for most people who work out regularly and have high testosterone levels and experience with women they will not experience sides. You're arguing against 20+ studies which list side effects anywhere from 2-7%, which is still incredibly low.
"****ed up society that places too much emphasis on appearances. "
You're so incredibly ignorant it is sickening. It isn't society, it is HUMAN NATURE as baldness is a signal of decay, bad genetics and lack of youthfulness. OF COURSE people and women in particular are going to see this as a negative. We are a superficial species, you can't reject or opt out of human nature. As a bald person you are a genetic freak, and particularly with younger girls 18-30 they will NEVER look at you the same again. You are used up and a genetic degenerate to them.
"yet they fail to understand that we live"
They know perfectly well, they just aren't a pathetic sexless loser like yourself who can only get one woman every SIX MONTHS. When you go from the alpha male to the bald guy it is earth shattering, and if you don't understand this then your life was pathetic to begin with.
"It's far more valuable and fulfilling to connect with a women on emotional levels than to think you need to be some pretentious, cute looking guy to attract girls"
You're essentially halving your market field. Many women who are incredibly intelligent, cultured and in a high end job will reject you outright because you don't fit their sexual market value anymore. You are stuck with the lower end of the field. You're settling for mediocrity, and likely doing so because you aren't particularly intellectual, in a good job or cultured so you weren't a good fit for higher end women to begin with. Women under 30 will not go for a 25 year old bald guy and he will be laughed at and set aside. Your life is over as a bald 20 year old unless you are like yourself, and accept ugly, fat and stupid women, because you consider that your own level.
To everyone reading, if you're thinking about taking propecia PLEASE do so, the SCIENCE and STUDIES say that only 2-7% will get sides, and the rest will improve their lives dramatically. Don't choose the path of failure because of this beta cuck! -
Yea, been there. I actually thought giving up a little libido for my hair was worth the trade-off. But it's not a little libido. Propecia is like krptonite for a man's sex drive.
And I also thought every guy is different. Maybe all these guys posting on the forums don't really lead healthy lives otherwise. Maybe they don't workout. Maybe they're already depressed. Maybe they're just part of the new breed of feminine guys who complain about everything.
Maybe my case will be different bc I'm healthy, strong minded, independent, etc. Well it wasn't.
I still can't believe how strange it felt to be with a girl and not be able to visualize having sex with her. It's like I'd picture myself in-between her legs but since I wasn't getting hard, all I could imagine was just laying on top of her. And this is my imagination we're talking about! If that's the best it can do, I'm in trouble!
Fwiw, I'm in my early 30s. This whole experience is sobering. There's people on these forums contemplating suicide and going through major depression issues and yet they fail to understand that we live in a ****ed up society that places too much emphasis on appearances.
It's far more valuable and fulfilling to connect with a women on emotional levels than to think you need to be some pretentious, cute looking guy to attract girls. And that's besides the point, there's more to life than appearances.Leave a comment:
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This. So much this.
I used to think "meh, so what if i lose a little libido, if i can keep my hair". Wait till the first time the little guy gets numb, and you can't get it up. Wait till you start budding man boobs. It is some scary s*** that you never want to experience. Wew boy, if you thought hair loss was depressing, there's no comparison to the depression of not feeling like a man. And all of this from just a month of TOPICAL use.
I feel super lucky that, after quitting, my libido has recovered about 75%, but there are still few things that are off (and my gyno is here to stay).
I almost feel hesitant to see a doctor. Is there anyone who has seen one, and actually gotten positive response from the doctor instead of being dismissive? Any stories of improvement due to treatment?
And yes, the "Only 2% of men get side effects" is total BULLSH*T. This is just Merck's PR. Nothing more.Leave a comment:
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This is a very helpful thread for guys who experience side effects with Propecia and don't know what to do. My answer is always to try to tactfully say "If you're experiencing side effects, then you have to choose: Do you want to maintain your hair and lose your libido/erections? Or do you want to keep your libido/erections and potentially lose your hair? Which one is more important?" So many guys resist this reality and fight tooth and nail to be able to have both. "I want to keep my libido AND my hair!" But the reality is that for some guys, this isn't possible with Propecia, and the sooner any of us can accept this, the sooner we can come up with a Plan B that's based on reality, not on wishful thinking.
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PROPECIA user - My penis works again
I took propecia for about 6 months. Daily. My hair grew back, it was thick and it felt AMAAZING to get a second chance to maintain my look.
But the sides are real. Whoever believes that only "2%" of men get side effects, I have a bridge to sell you. It's bullshit.
Every.single.guy.I.know.has.had.side.effects. You wanna know the truth? Most guys won't admit their sides. They'd rather keep their hair and pretend their penis works.
In any case - I had blood tests done throughout the year. It always came back normal. My doctor didn't believe me when I said my erections were gone and my sperm was watery. He said all my tests were great, normal testosterone,etc. He said I should stay on propecia because he knows I'll lose my hair.
I was with a girl during that time and it was just weird. I wouldn't get rock hard. It felt so strange because not only would I not have my usual bull hard on, but I didn't even have a desire for it. It's like there was no mutual chemistry and let me tell you that it is a STRANGE feeling. You can still be attracted to the girl, but you can't do anything. It's not the end of the world, but it's just really strange.
So.. almost miraculously, my hard-ons returned. My sperm is back to normal. I began wanking even when I didn't feel like it just because I could. I went through a major shed the past few months and it SUCKS since I've been off it. And if you read my earlier posts for the past few years, I go through a major yearly shed. But I wouldn't trade my erections for hair. If you think differently, then you just haven't experienced the sides yet. Trust me.
I haven't taken propecia in well over 6 months but I still have a full bottle. I'm tempted to take it once a week just to see if it improves my hair. But I will never again take it daily. I feel like it was a dynamite to my libido and it's just not worth it.
My hair has been my best feature my entire life. Trust me when I say this - losing hair hurts, especially as I age. But luckily, I know there much more to life than maintaining my hair. I have bigger goals, interests, financial freedom pursuits that I'm working on, and my time on this planet is limited.
For those who are overly concerned, here's a reminder: you're going to die one day. It may not be comfortably in bed in your 80s. It can be today or tomorrow. And if you've convinced yourself that losing hair is the end of the world - then you've been a blind man walking around aimlessly your entire life and you've been surrounded by the wrong people.
Cheers
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