My before and after 8 week igrow progress

[thechamp]

Any progress from anyone here regarding the igrow helmet?

For my hair ATM best money I have ever spent on my hair it's done what it's advertised to do thicker stronger hair I'm happy hair loss has halted

[Hair Bear]

Any progress from anyone here regarding the igrow helmet?

[StayThick]

Hey guys, is everyone using their iGrow every other day per instructions? Also, I noticed the 2 suction cup type branches that extend from the front land right on my much needed temporal region. Are these auction cups equipped with lasers or they strictly there to hold the device in place.

It sucks because that's the area that needs the most attention and I feel the lares aren't hitting the corners. Thoughts?

Also, any progress from any using this helmet?

[Hair Bear]

Extremely interesting, thanks so much Jacob! You are always a remarkable source of information.

[Bocaj]

I always thought the same about Igrow- thought it was gimmicky etc. But you can't argue with a study, even if that doesn't mean it's going to work for you or everybody. Then...here's some info, some on LED's..that a mari0s posted in another forum:

*Compilative studies* about current research and scientific principle behind LLLT

https://www.dropbox.com/s/t8x82i98092d3xj/Low-Level%20Laser%20%28Light%29%20Therapy%20%28LLLT%29%20for%20Treatment%20of.pdf

http://www.escholarship.org/uc/item/1jt041t2

*Clinical studies*
- Coreans (Oaze) https://www.dropbox.com/s/66fm4kjfk7...%2024-Week.pdf
- Americans (igrow) https://www.dropbox.com/s/wn7rg07czn...ible%20Red.pdf

*Others* wawelengths/LED*
- Europeans (LDS100 - infrared) http://www.corporacioncapilar.es/pdf/LDS100.pdf
- University of Baghdad ( ) for AA, infrared http://www.healthpointlaser.com/wp-c...iode_Laser.pdf
- McDaniels (LED) abstract/patent http://www.baumanmedical.com/Portals...hairgrowth.PDF http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20100055789.pdf

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And then I recently came across that Japanese helmet/device which seems to be LED-based..the HairRepro.

And this: http://www.google.com/patents/EP2508228A1?cl=en

[Hair Bear]

At the end of the day the OMG laser helmet is by far the very best however it needs to be refined so it doesn't look like some mad scientist contraption.
I am now considering buying an igrow laser helmet topped with the fact that they are similarly priced in Australia well..

The only thing is I don't understand the need for LED's and just see it as a means to create an illusion of great luminescent power to the casual observer, the other factor is the lack of actual lasers and am concerned about how much coverage it will actually have.

[Bocaj]

Actually his review page mentions that Chinese sourced LaserCap- at the bottom: http://www.lllt-therapy.com/laser_he...ser_cap_review

It has more lasers and is $1200, according to him. Cut that in half and they'll fly off the shelves...

[Bocaj]

See the salesman's post at ************. Any suc...I mean ppl.. who bought the thing or will soon are paying for them to get it right. Hilarious. I've responded to a bit of what's been going on over at hairlossfight. All I know is some of us have found out more about things than someone who's buddies with the CEO- even visited the place. Or more likely he just doesn't want us to know.

I think they all have their pluses and minuses. The LaserCap is cool- but expensive, and you still have to get it through a Dr. or salon or something I think. Although..I have seen it on those korean/chinese mega-sites but didn't inquire about the cost. Then what do you do if it goes out on you...

Then there's the Laserfish http://www.lllt-therapy.com/ - see his reviews on his competitors. There's OMG's. Etc etc.

The thing Igrow has for them is they actually have at least a bit of evidence to back up their product with. Theradome has no such thing- they received FDA approval via the MEP-90, with is an entirely different unit- diff lasers etc. Then they say the Igrow did better than that clinical unit MEP-90....go figure.

[Hair Bear]

hahaha, what did they update on it? You seem to know a lot more about this than I do.
I want to purchase a laser helmet but always have my reservations, both igrow and Theradome seem to have their drawbacks.

[Bocaj]

They made the Theradome so great they had to update/grade it already. So much for the genius NASA guy behind the operation.

[Hair Bear]

Cool, I have seen it available from one store which charges well over retail price and that is also putting into consideration the exchange rates and shipping.
The website I have seen is selling them for over $1000, correct me if I am mistaken but does this sound familiar.

The Theradome device has not yet officially been launched in Australia.

On a side note your hair is looking fantastic as always, I would suggest you get another opinion on this hair loss thing because you are looking pretty sharp, even back in the day of the trx2 threads your hair looked good but its always hard to tell online and if this new program is keeping you happy then I am happy for you.

[thechamp]

[QUOTE=Hair Bear;170200]I can tell you that there are bold people on this forum, I think everyone sees themselves as worse of than the next person.
I personally haven't posted images of my head but can tell you that what I have going on is not a good look at all, retrospectively I probably should have gotten onto minoxodil early and salvaged my hair because honestly everything I have tried over the years has been absolute rubbish and pack of lies.
The only success I can report is that I managed to find a shampoo/conditioner which does not irritate my scalp, but even purchasing this shampoo/conditioner is a pain as its not available locally.

I'd like to purchase a theradome and see how it compares but its not available locally as I suspect it is in the process of getting TGA approved.

Btw I use Revita Shampoo/Conditioner and live in Australia.[/QUOTE

I'm in Perth Australia you can order the thermadome online man

[Hair Bear]

I can tell you that there are bold people on this forum, I think everyone sees themselves as worse of than the next person.
I personally haven't posted images of my head but can tell you that what I have going on is not a good look at all, retrospectively I probably should have gotten onto minoxodil early and salvaged my hair because honestly everything I have tried over the years has been absolute rubbish and pack of lies.
The only success I can report is that I managed to find a shampoo/conditioner which does not irritate my scalp, but even purchasing this shampoo/conditioner is a pain as its not available locally.

I'd like to purchase a theradome and see how it compares but its not available locally as I suspect it is in the process of getting TGA approved.

Btw I use Revita Shampoo/Conditioner and live in Australia.

[Notcoolanymore]

I agree that to use LLLT alone is insane..but I don't think minox or fin are your only choices

You are probably right. The problem with other treatments is that there really isn't much documentation that they work. I am talking about long term results, years later perhaps.

[Bocaj]

guys dont delude yourselves, yes hairlaser adds to result but only if on minox or AA

thechamp would 100% not get these results if minox wasnt in the regimen.

Solo laser will not do anything

I agree that to use LLLT alone is insane..but I don't think minox or fin are your only choices