Scar Grafting with Dr Cole

[Stevie R]

Topcat... yes debulk refers to the scars raised texture. it will essentially smoothen it out. it is by no means a keloid scar but the left side of the lower one is raised to the point it bothers me. I'm looking to achieve a smoother transition when I run my finger over it.
Jet, Regarding the redness, I have to do the pulse dye laser. the shorter my hair is, the more visible this scar is due to the color variation between scalp and scar. Keep in mind the pink or redness is coming from superficial capillaries near the surface and those will not effect the circulation that is supplying the follicles. Trust me, I asked him 3 different times..... "will this laser damage any hair that is in or around the scar?" No.

Debulk the hell out of that scar NE guy! Good hearing an update from ya, onward and upward bro!

[jetfan11]

Topcat... yes debulk refers to the scars raised texture. it will essentially smoothen it out. it is by no means a keloid scar but the left side of the lower one is raised to the point it bothers me. I'm looking to achieve a smoother transition when I run my finger over it.
Jet, Regarding the redness, I have to do the pulse dye laser. the shorter my hair is, the more visible this scar is due to the color variation between scalp and scar. Keep in mind the pink or redness is coming from superficial capillaries near the surface and those will not effect the circulation that is supplying the follicles. Trust me, I asked him 3 different times..... "will this laser damage any hair that is in or around the scar?" No.

You've done a great job neguy. Def looking good. I'm sure you'll be fine with beam. Maybe do a test patch of scar and let it sit for a month.

Keep seeing some amazing smp results on a shaved head. I think hair is better and who he'll knows what tattoo will look like in 10 years but seen some good pics.

[northeastguy]

Topcat... yes debulk refers to the scars raised texture. it will essentially smoothen it out. it is by no means a keloid scar but the left side of the lower one is raised to the point it bothers me. I'm looking to achieve a smoother transition when I run my finger over it.
Jet, Regarding the redness, I have to do the pulse dye laser. the shorter my hair is, the more visible this scar is due to the color variation between scalp and scar. Keep in mind the pink or redness is coming from superficial capillaries near the surface and those will not effect the circulation that is supplying the follicles. Trust me, I asked him 3 different times..... "will this laser damage any hair that is in or around the scar?" No.

[jetfan11]

Grafts

Hey jet, did you get your fue into scar with dr. Cole? If so, how many grafts? Thanks

Hey Chicago,

Haven't hone to him yet. Trying to get this scar past mutant status 1st.

Also Im doing all beard hair.

Long way from home.

[chicago99]

Hey jet, did you get your fue into scar with dr. Cole? If so, how many grafts? Thanks

[jetfan11]

Growth

NEguy when you say debulk..............does that mean flatten or something else?

Thank you.

Neguy,

Thanks for update. Pimples at 3 months def a good sign for sure.

I completed two heavy rounds of vbeam and scar is dramatically less red.

It was redder than the devil.

For whatever my opinion is worth I wouldn't do the beam.

You look awesome right now and are close to being done I don't think it's worth the risk.

Also vbeams eliminate red by decreasing blood flow, which is very counter productive to grafts growing.

IMO you look awesome now worth the risk.

[topcat]

NEguy when you say debulk..............does that mean flatten or something else?

Thank you.

[northeastguy]

Hi Jetfan... May 1 will be about 3 months so it's early. I do get the occasional pimple due to a blocked hair in the scars so I'd say that's a good sign of things growing. At month 4 post op ill experiment a little with my haircut.
On another note, I met with a dermatologist who does laser and also did HT years ago. Confirmed with me pulse dye laser is the way to go. It will debulk, smooth, and improve the redness of the scar without harming any hair follicles. I will start with those treatments at month 4 or 5.

[jetfan11]

Beard hairs

Thanks guys...

Neguy,

Hope your doing well.

Any signs of growth from those beard hairs?

[northeastguy]

Thanks guys...

[gillenator]

Wasn't an attack just i point I felt compelled to make. I have no ill will or bad feelings about the discussion or you as a person. Wish the best. Glad you made it through your battle with cancer.

Thanks for the kind words jetfan and I do truly wish you the best as well.

This whole thing reminded me of something that was my fault.

When I was dying of cancer, I continued to check my emails and barely could crawl to my office to do so. My precious wife kept telling me to give it up (ministry) and that my health was far more important. I did not listen to her good advice.

Then one morning I went into my office and abruptly found that my computer was removed. It was gone. It made me very angry that she would do such a thing behind my back. She had no right to do that! I felt violated, I mean I really did.

At the time she was running an errand and when she got home, I let her have it. I told her it was morally wrong what she did, etc, etc. I told her that when she was once very sick with an abdominal disorder, that she would still go into work and not rest herself as her doctor ordered, and she was being a hypocrite.

Then she started to cry. And I mean she really cried and I could not console her for some time. Later, she said it was not a matter of morals but that she simple was thinking of my leading myself into a grave. She said that I just did not understand why she did what she did.

She was right and I was wrong. I learned that we cannot judge the hearts of others because there is always a chance that we might be wrong.

I reflected on who she was and not always what she did. Because at the end of the day, we all make mistakes and who am I to judge her and cast the first stone? She's a good woman and I probably would be dead if not for her.

Anyways, I sincerely hope that we can both allow this thread to be about FUE repair and I eagerly as you too await the results of NEGuy's last procedure.

I know that we both wish him the best in his long journey of repair.

[jetfan11]

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Look jetfan, you initiated the attack. I responded to you and you keep feeding it. That's on you. Think whatever you want. I know who I am and why I do what I do. If you think it's hypocritical, then think that. That's your prerogative.

But like I said, I understand your psyche, I have seen it many times before and that's my view of you whether you agree with it or not.

Peace...

Wasn't an attack just i point I felt compelled to make. I have no ill will or bad feelings about the discussion or you as a person. Wish the best. Glad you made it through your battle with cancer.

[gillenator]

That's really nice to hear. I commend you and the doctor for taking a personal interest in helping this victim of an unscrupulous industry that, more often than not, puts profits before patients.

Thanks Wylie. You know he never even thanked the doctor who helped him but that's not uncommon. Helping others is not done because we expect a thank you. It's done because it's the right thing to do...

[gillenator]

Look jetfan, you initiated the attack. I responded to you and you keep feeding it. That's on you. Think whatever you want. I know who I am and why I do what I do. If you think it's hypocritical, then think that. That's your prerogative.

But like I said, I understand your psyche, I have seen it many times before and that's my view of you whether you agree with it or not.

Peace...

[jetfan11]

jetfan,

The more that I read your posts the more I understand your hostile psyche. You are not the first FUHT patient that is unhappy with their result that comes on these forums and attempts to criminalize strip or anyone "you think" promotes it.

Yet you selectively target me when there are others who are in fact employed by 100% FUHT clinics but you don't attack them. And before you again start with your hypocritical rants, come to my office so you can see for yourself. But you won't. You just need someone to take your anger out on. I've seen it a hundred times and more. Go ahead if it makes you feel better.

As I said, I hope everything works out for you so that you can move on with your life...

I am not hostile. And these are not rants. Your responses seem irrational and from the psyche of someone that has devoted much of his life to something that has brought a great deal of misery to many people and has since justified this beyond recognition. Moreover you are not answering any of my questions or even reading my responses.

I am not attacking the people who promote strip because they do just that. At least its an honest non hypocritical stance. They are here to promote the services of their clinics. I am not deeming anyone evil or bad that promotes transplants. I have never said that. A good transplant can be an amazing life changing experience and if you do FUE you can probably still go back to bald if it doesnt take which is why its gaining popularity and will probably take over.

I have an issue with YOU promoting surgeries you know have a very high probability in failure and then consoling the victims from some high moral ground. Its the essence of being hypocritical. This is my point to you. In fact its the only point I am making.

You actually proved my points in your last post. Its almost laughable. You say youve seen angry disfigured guys "a 100 times and more". I dont doubt it!!! Being in the business of promoting strip surgeries for 9 years (I think you said 9) and advocating them here I bet its in the 10s of thousands! You also proved my point with the 2 patients who had a 2 surgeries from the same doc and 1 turned out great the other not so much. Whoa so you are saying HT strips are risky and may not work regardless of how good the doc is? Interesting point for sure. Maybe it makes more sense to get FUE so you dont have irrepairable scarring...maybe....

As for coming to your office please give me a small break. I work 80 hours a week and cover 4 states for my job i am not flying out to see some random guy on the internet who thinks its ok to promote strips and then console the victims and paint himself on some high moral ground. Have much better things to do with my time. Id be happy to talk on the phone or you can come out and see me.

Your responses are very long drawn out and filled with anger. Much of that anger and hostility comes from the fact that you have devoted much of your life to something that is very risky, often has failed outcomes and youve been called out on it and deep down you see the hypocrisy of advocating something dangerous for 20 some years and then consoling the victims of the very procedure you advocate.

Lets please take this offline its a great thread NEguy is on his way and its very helpful. We could go back and forth for days and you are now just making stuff up like I am angry or I hate the whole HT industry neither of which is true. Its very immature of you to do that. You can email me at jetfan11@hotmail.com if you want.