Dissapointed with plucking and acell any advice going forward !

[Spex]

, Hey ej, Im not going to lie to you... , i have not read the entire topic here as think its gone somewhat off course and time is precious.

I truly hope you get your situation resolved, which ever route you take brother.

Hell knows you have been thru the frickin ringer dude, you deserve piece

Best wishes
Spex

[Spanish Dude]

@ejj & dr. Cooley:

According to forum member "mkamph", dr. Cooley has done 4000 hair autoplucking session on a London patient.

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=3998&page=19

dr. Cooley, can you confirm this?

I suggest to try autoplucking again on ejj, to cover the "soft scars".

1. These "soft scars" are soft tissue, not scar tissue, so the chances for success are now higher.
2. Autoplucking with scalp hairs have better yield than beard hairs, according to dr. Cooley.


p.d. autoplucking = autocloning

[topcat]

I think if you asked most repair patients at the top of their list of concerns would be not to make their situation worse. I know in my own case I waited a very long time before trying any type of body or beard hair as it was not proven and there were many failures. Many patients were left worse off than when they started. Most of them by hyped up doctors right here in the States doing mega sessions. Eventually I was able to come to the understanding that it was not so much that body and beard hair did not work, it had more to do with the skill of the doctor. The many scalp fue failures is a good example. It’s not so much the technique but more the person performing the technique.

The point of not making my own situation worse was discussed frequently with my clinic. There was a complete understanding on both sides and my well being was at the top of the list. Sure my progress might be slow but it is meant to reduce the risk as much as possible and all part of a safe plan.

The clinic’s have the responsibility to move very slowly especially with repair patients and fully explain if they are using a technique that is not proven and is basically a gamble. When presented in this way most repair patients would probably take a wait and see attitude as the last thing they need is to dig a deeper hole. I know this means losing a sale, but you simply can’t take the chance of making a bad situation worse and completely destroying someone’s life. There is more at risk here than simply money.

I think it should have been explained to this patient that the outcome of using Acell on the donor area was unknown and the doctor was making an assumption. When presented in this way it might have given the patient reason to pause.

I think what doctor Cooley is doing here is admirable but might be moving too fast. We are not lab rats that can simply be tossed away.

[HairRobinHood]

Why does this HairRobinHood guy troll with his Gho links on every single hairloss forum on the internet?

Because this HairRobinHood guy always confirms what he is saying - not just with "Gho links". For instance, recently he trolled with this link on the Bald Truth:

http://www.jci.org/articles/view/44478

Dr. Hitzig found it interesting and useful (I guess). And look at the papers "References" below - they too try to confirm their claims in the paper.

[Spanish Dude]

Why does this HairRobinHood guy troll with his Gho links on every single hairloss forum on the internet?

and more importantly, why does he register with a different nickname in each forum. I have counted at least half a dozen nicknames in a corresponding number of forums.



@Iron_Man, "Dud" also means "false".

as adjective:
fake, false, forged, sham, counterfeit, pinchbeck, phoney or phony (informal)
He used a dud cheque to pay the bill.
Iron_Man is a dud forum member

as noun:
imitation, copy, reproduction, hoax, forgery, phoney or phony (informal)
The mine was a dud.
Iron_Man is a dud

[HairRobinHood]

They would require several threads with photos etc.

Wow.

and this thread is about ejj and Cooley.

Cool - finally you've got it.

[Bakez]

Why does this HairRobinHood guy troll with his Gho links on every single hairloss forum on the internet?

[Spanish Dude]

Could you please be so kind and quote all your "accusations" here (including your "rationale")?

you are the interested one, go and search. They would require several threads with photos etc.

and this thread is about ejj and Cooley.

[HairRobinHood]

My criticisms against Hitzig and Cooley are in Hairsite, use the search function, then read my posts, and there you will find the rationale for my accusations.

Could you please be so kind and quote all your "accusations" here (including your "rationale")?

btw - what did you say? "dud" means "false? Interessting, I just checked it myself:

Dud = person or thing which does not succeed, failure, loser; bore; (Slang) clothing (usually duds)

Indeed, interesting.

[Spanish Dude]

Really? And why I'm not aware of the patients real name?

Show me the proof - and show me the proof for all your claims against Dr. Cooley and Dr. Hitzig too.

LOL, very simple, super_intelligent Iron_Man, because Hairsite deleted the name as soon as he discovered that it was exposed by Dr. Gho.

My criticisms against Hitzig and Cooley are in Hairsite, use the search function, then read my posts, and there you will find the rationale for my accusations.

[HairRobinHood]

At least Dr. Cooley has not charged ejj any money for the experimental treatment (autoplucking and Acell closure). While Gho charged Syrup a very high price per graft for his experimental FM method.
also, remember that dr. Gho exposed the patient's real name in Hairsite. Very nasty behaviour.

Really? And why I'm not aware of the patients real name?

Show me the proof - and show me the proof for all your claims against Dr. Cooley and Dr. Hitzig too.

[Spanish Dude]

Syrup? Come on Spanish Dud - you can't compare the damage of a just 300 FM-"FUE" graft "failure patient" with this "failure" here. But it's a good idea that you bring that up!

I'm not sure whether or not Dr. Cooley is immediately jumping into the next plane to England, to see the patient.

At least Dr. Cooley has not charged ejj any money for the experimental treatment (autoplucking and Acell closure). While Gho charged Syrup a very high price per graft for his experimental FM method.
also, remember that dr. Gho exposed the patient's real name in Hairsite. Very nasty behaviour.

[HairRobinHood]

Get it?

Sure, I'm not Spanish Dud.

[Spanish Dude]

Interesting - first you critized me because of "ACell/Cooley/Hitzig hyping", now you critize me for just posting a topic-related link (irrelevant who are the authors). Then you created multiple threads on HairSite with blaming claims about Dr. Cooley and especially against Dr. Hitzig (and WHO tried to stop you?) - so what?

And you really think you are THE Spanish Dud, who decides what is relevant for a discussion and what is not relevant? Sorry Spanish Dud, but everbody knows that you're a "not very intelligent person".

Look Iron_Man, it is very simple. You addressed the Gho-link to ME. And I replied that I was not interested on your Gho-link. End of story. If you want, you can address your Gho-link to other persons, but not to me.

Get it?

[HairRobinHood]

Topcat, I agree with your criticism towards Cooley, but at least he has quickly acknowledged the failure, and this is something that we should value. Just remember for example how Dr. Gho treated his failed patient Syrup on Hairsite? Gho treated Syrup like shit, and even said that the result was good (come on Iron_Man, attack me).

Syrup? Come on Spanish Dud - you can't compare the damage of a just 300 FM-"FUE" graft "failure patient" with this "failure" here. But it's a good idea that you bring that up!

I'm not sure whether or not Dr. Cooley is immediately jumping into the next plane to England, to see the patient.