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01-25-2012, 02:00 PM
Hi, I have been balding for 10 years......

Is having greasy hair part of going bald? Is it a symptom? Is this the DHT?

I am not sure I noticed the greasyness when I had longer hair and gelled my hair.

Now I have it shaved, I notice how greasy/oily it gets all over. Running my hand over the top of my head I can feel the oilyness and it comes off my head onto my hand.

I was just curious to know if this happens to every balding person, or is it just me?

01-25-2012, 02:42 PM
I think all bald people have more oily scalp, its related to inflamation or something..

01-25-2012, 03:25 PM
I think all bald people have more oily scalp, its related to inflamation or something..

Thats good to hear, I asked because I thought it might just be me who gets it.

I was concerned as to whether it would cause problems if I had a transplant, ie. I was also concerned that this might affect the chance of me being a 'good candidate' for surgery as in some way the oily donor hair might not be a good thing, it might affect quality or the ability for the transplanted hair to grow.

I hope not anyway.

01-25-2012, 05:16 PM
Heres an interesting article..

"Sebum - Does An Oily Scalp Cause Hair Loss?
Ever noticed that men tend not to have as many wrinkles as women? Well it may come at a price. Men secrete slightly more sebum on the skin than women and this natural oil is used to moisturise the skin and prevent it from drying out (ever noticed men tend to sweat more?) and help prevent the build up of certain bacteria. Basically sebum is vital for healthy hair and skin which is why men tend to wrinkle less, as well as produce more hair growth – on their body that is…
Sebum is a bit of a double edged sword in many ways. Too much sebum can block pores in the skin and lead to acne (which is why acne is more common in men) and with sebum comes an increased level of DHT which is essentially the most common cause of hair loss. Of course not all men with an oily scalp are bald (think Colin Farrell at the Oscars last year) so it begs the question – if your locks are a bit on the shiny side, how do you know if your time with them is running out?
Well, those most likely to be affected by sebum in regard to hair loss are those who are sensitive to the effects of DHT on the scalp. In other words, those who have a family history of hair loss are more likely to go down the same path. Nearly 80% of men will experience male pattern baldness at some stage of their life but it’s a relief to know that sometimes the genetic trait can skip a generation. So, if your hair’s a bit on the slick side, the first step in managing the onset of hair loss is to keep the sebum levels down.
Ever heard that you should try to limit washing your hair to once a week? The whole myth that over-washing strips your scalp of its natural oils is just that – a myth. Shampoos aren’t as harsh as they once were and daily washing won’t deplete the scalp of its natural oils. If your scalp starts to get a bit dry, switch to a milder option – one that’s designed for daily, frequent washes. Now you’ve got no excuse to ditch regular shampooing. You wouldn’t go a week without washing your face so why should you let dirt and oil gather on your scalp?
There are some foods that can trigger hair loss and if you’ve got a naturally oily scalp, there are some others you should also try to avoid. It’s a bit like the whole ‘crisps and chocolate give you pimples – or do they?’ thing. Although there’s no concrete evidence, spicy and oily foods are said to stimulate the oil production glands. These foods might not singularly contribute to hair loss, but it can’t hurt to be on the cautious side. A clean, healthy scalp is after all essential for healthy hair growth, as is nutrition.
Essentially, hair loss related to sebum or an oily scalp is largely genetic. If you’re in the shower and notice you’ve got less and less hair to wash each time, you should think about getting a specialists opinion about the nature of the condition. DHT may not be the only factor at play or you may have naturally high levels of DHT, regardless of sebum production.
There are FDA approved treatments for hair loss that will effectively manage the condition in the large majority of cases but an individualised approach based on a personalised diagnosis is the most important thing in obtaining maximum results."

01-26-2012, 02:15 PM
Cheers Stressed.

I have to wash my hair everyday anyway (have done since I started balding) because of the greasyness of my hair in the morning. As soon as its washed the sebum comes back.

This sebum thing does make sense as parts of my face get really oily too but I do not get any spots at all and have never had acne.

Just googling the sebum issue I see people have recommended all sorts Nizoral shampoo, Saw Palmetto, Jojoba Oil and something called accutin which I don't like the side effects of.

Might wack jojoba Oil on my head and see what happens. I understand it won't really help my hairloss issues by stopping Sebum but at least I won't have to deal with the grease if it works.


01-26-2012, 02:32 PM
Just found 'Foltène® Shampoo for Thinning Hair' I doubt it helps hairloss at all but it says it regulates sebum (whatever that means) oh well I am a desperate, depressed mug that will have £10.20 less due to my baldness as I will be buying this stuff just in the hope that it gets rid of the grease on my head.

If only it actually could just be slapped on my head once and my all my hair would come back. I'll keep dreaming......

01-26-2012, 04:33 PM
You're welcome.

If I may suggest, the excess oil is in reality regulated from the inside, so I'd suggest anti-inflammatory diet ! Cutting on the bad foods might help from the inside better than any shampoo can do on the outside. As for shampoos, I use only vegan ones, with no SLS and chemicals that come with famous brands, only herbal ingredients - when You search for good ingredients in shampoo - sage, rosemary, arginine, barley, nettle, coffee, green tea, garlic - these are some of the best ingredients for healthy hair and better circulation in the scalp.

Back to the diet..

"Anti-Inflammatory Diet Tips
Courtesy of Dr. Weil on Healthy Aging

General Diet Tips:

Aim for variety.
Include as much fresh food as possible.
Minimize your consumption of processed foods and fast food.
Eat an abundance of fruits and vegetables.
Caloric Intake

Most adults need to consume between 2,000 and 3,000 calories a day.
Women and smaller and less active people need fewer calories.
Men and bigger and more active people need more calories.
If you are eating the appropriate number of calories for your level of activity, your weight should not fluctuate greatly.
The distribution of calories you take in should be as follows: 40 to 50 percent from carbohydrates, 30 percent from fat, and 20 to 30 percent from protein.
Try to include carbohydrates, fat, and protein at each meal.

On a 2,000-calorie-a-day diet, adult women should consume between 160 to 200 grams of carbohydrates a day.
Adult men should consume between 240 to 300 grams of carbohydrates a day.
The majority of this should be in the form of less-refined, less-processed foods with a low glycemic load.
Reduce your consumption of foods made with wheat flour and sugar, especially bread and most packaged snack foods (including chips and pretzels).
Eat more whole grains such as brown rice and bulgur wheat, in which the grain is intact or in a few large pieces. These are preferable to whole wheat flour products, which have roughly the same glycemic index as white flour products.
Eat more beans, winter squashes, and sweet potatoes.
Cook pasta al dente and eat it in moderation.
Avoid products made with high fructose corn syrup.

On a 2,000-calorie-a-day diet, 600 calories can come from fat - that is, about 67 grams. This should be in a ratio of 1:2:1 of saturated to monounsaturated to polyunsaturated fat.
Reduce your intake of saturated fat by eating less butter, cream, high-fat cheese, unskinned chicken and fatty meats, and products made with palm kernel oil.
Use extra-virgin olive oil as a main cooking oil. If you want a neutral tasting oil, use expeller-pressed, organic canola oil. Organic, high-oleic, expeller pressed versions of sunflower and safflower oil are also acceptable.
Avoid regular safflower and sunflower oils, corn oil, cottonseed oil, and mixed vegetable oils.
Strictly avoid margarine, vegetable shortening, and all products listing them as ingredients. Strictly avoid all products made with partially hydrogenated oils of any kind. Include in your diet avocados and nuts, especially walnuts, cashews, almonds, and nut butters made from these nuts.
For omega-3 fatty acids, eat salmon (preferably fresh or frozen wild or canned sockeye), sardines packed in water or olive oil, herring, and black cod (sablefish, butterfish); omega-3 fortified eggs; hemp seeds and flaxseeds (preferably freshly ground); or take a fish oil supplement (look for products that provide both EPA and DHA, in a convenient daily dosage of two to three grams).

On a 2,000-calorie-a-day diet, your daily intake of protein should be between 80 and 120 grams. Eat less protein if you have liver or kidney problems, allergies, or autoimmune disease.
Decrease your consumption of animal protein except for fish and high quality natural cheese and yogurt.
Eat more vegetable protein, especially from beans in general and soybeans in particular. Become familiar with the range of whole-soy foods available and find ones you like.

Try to eat 40 grams of fiber a day. You can achieve this by increasing your consumption of fruit, especially berries, vegetables (especially beans), and whole grains.
Ready-made cereals can be good fiber sources, but read labels to make sure they give you at least 4 and preferably 5 grams of bran per one-ounce serving.

To get maximum natural protection against age-related diseases (including cardiovascular disease, cancer, and neurodegenerative disease) as well as against environmental toxicity, eat a variety of fruits, vegetables and mushrooms.
Choose fruits and vegetables from all parts of the color spectrum, especially berries, tomatoes, orange and yellow fruits, and dark leafy greens.
Choose organic produce whenever possible. Learn which conventionally grown crops are most likely to carry pesticide residues and avoid them.
Eat cruciferous (cabbage-family) vegetables regularly.
Include soy foods in your diet.
Drink tea instead of coffee, especially good quality white, green or oolong tea.
If you drink alcohol, use red wine preferentially.
Enjoy plain dark chocolate in moderation (with a minimum cocoa content of 70 percent).
Vitamins and Minerals
The best way to obtain all of your daily vitamins, minerals, and micronutrients is by eating a diet high in fresh foods with an abundance of fruits and vegetables. In addition, supplement your diet with the following antioxidant ****tail:

Vitamin C, 200 milligrams a day.
Vitamin E, 400 IU of natural mixed tocopherols (d-alpha-tocopherol with other tocopherols, or, better, a minimum of 80 milligrams of natural mixed tocopherols and tocotrienols).
Selenium, 200 micrograms of an organic (yeast-bound) form.
Mixed carotenoids, 10,000-15,000 IU daily.
The antioxidants can be most conveniently taken as part of a daily multivitamin/multimineral supplement that also provides at least 400 micrograms of folic acid and 2,000 IU of vitamin D. It should contain no iron (unless you are a female and having regular menstrual periods) and no preformed vitamin A (retinol). Take these supplements with your largest meal.
Women should take supplemental calcium, preferably as calcium citrate, 500-700 milligrams a day, depending on their dietary intake of this mineral. Men should avoid supplemental calcium.
Other Dietary Supplements

If you are not eating oily fish at least twice a week, take supplemental fish oil, in capsule or liquid form (two to three grams a day of a product containing both EPA and DHA). Look for molecularly distilled products certified to be free of heavy metals and other contaminants.
Talk to your doctor about going on low-dose aspirin therapy, one or two baby aspirins a day (81 or 162 milligrams).
If you are not regularly eating ginger and turmeric, consider taking these in supplemental form.
Add coQ10 to your daily regimen: 60-100 milligrams of a softgel form taken with your largest meal.
If you are prone to metabolic syndrome, take alpha-lipoic acid, 100 to 400 milligrams a day.

Drink pure water, or drinks that are mostly water (tea, very diluted fruit juice, sparkling water with lemon) throughout the day.
Use bottled water or get a home water purifier if your tap water tastes of chlorine or other contaminants, or if you live in an area where the water is known or suspected to be contaminated."