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NeedHairASAP
09-14-2011, 02:45 PM
My hair is transformed. The oilyness is gone. New hairs grow in every day and my entire head is darker and thicker then ever. Numerous people including my hair cutter have asked me what I am doing. A few people have asked if I died my hair. I havent. The funny thing Is I still ejaculate like once a week for me that seems to be enough. For others it might need longer abstinence I guess it just depends on how sensative you are to it genetically. Good luck keep the thread updated.


Is there anything other than zinc that you can artificially increase to make up for sexual activity

BackwardsBalding
09-14-2011, 03:21 PM
Is there anything other than zinc that you can artificially increase to make up for sexual activity


Yea look up chemistry of ejaculation, I think you lose magnesium, zinc, citrus among other things.

NeedHairASAP
09-14-2011, 05:25 PM
Yea look up chemistry of ejaculation

not sure I can bring myself to do that


well see how the zinc goes

BackwardsBalding
09-14-2011, 06:39 PM
not sure I can bring myself to do that


well see how the zinc goes

Just take Multivitamin with zinc and biotin. I take extra zinc on days that I work out or ejaculate.

Samiam
09-14-2011, 06:47 PM
Does getting sexually aroused affect this???

NeedHairASAP
09-14-2011, 09:27 PM
Does getting sexually aroused affect this???

yes samiam, no boners allowed


less boners = more hair
= science

Samiam
09-15-2011, 04:01 AM
...I don't know why youre being sarcastic when you days said you were trying this too

NeedHairASAP
09-15-2011, 06:32 AM
...I don't know why youre being sarcastic when you days said you were trying this too

i am, its just too funny not to joke

Samiam
09-15-2011, 06:49 AM
i am, its just too funny not to joke

Im just saying if ejaculation raises dht I don't see why getting hard wouldn't.

BackwardsBalding
09-15-2011, 11:26 AM
Im just saying if ejaculation raises dht I don't see why getting hard wouldn't.

If you look at the male reproductive system you will see that sperm starts in the testicles then comes (no pun intended) through the prostate. This is were DHT is coverted so having a boner will not convert DHT. Although if you have boners all the time you will notice leaking and thats because your body keeps prompting your self to be ready and filling up on the seaman. I would say it would take many boners throughout a week to add up to one ejaculation. After a few weeks of doing this abstinence thing you will notice less boners for sure. Don't watch porn and I even change the channel when really attractive half naked women come on.....preventative measures I guess.

Samiam
09-15-2011, 04:17 PM
After a few weeks of doing this abstinence thing you will notice less boners for sure.

Lol I don't think so man I have a touchy holdy kissy girlfriend and after three months of no ejaculation I get hard easy as ****

BackwardsBalding
09-15-2011, 04:59 PM
Lol I don't think so man I have a touchy holdy kissy girlfriend and after three months of no ejaculation I get hard easy as ****

Holy Crap you have went three months!!! Yea I was more talking about like getting hard for like television there will be no way to avoid a touchy feely girlfriend. That's how my lady is too good thing I don't live with her or I would not even be abstinent a week at a time. But three months!!! I think your ok to do it now man if you want relieve your self then get right back to it again but if you want to keep going by all means. Are you stretching your head out with laxity exercises? ejaculation or not you need to take the pressure off the frontal hairline. look in the mirror and lift up your eyebrows. You will notice that the lines made in your forehead are south of your hair line go compare this to George Bush with his solid hair line and very high lines in his forehead and you will see how some people's genetics allow for a loose scalp. So anyway to combat this take your fingers and pull areas of balding together for ten seconds like in a light pinching motion, then away for ten seconds, you can do this in multiple directions(like a soft pinch but dont do it too hard). In just weeks this will improve the laxity of the scalp. You don't have to use just two fingers you can use your entire hand look up laxity exercises for hair transplant only you will be doing those in the front and side front not the back. Also now that you have this information start noticing people with really good hair and how loose there hairline skin is compared to people who are not the forehead lines are almost always higher and really close to the hair line. If you could touch their hair you will surely see the hairlines of bald people are really tight and not bald people are really loose. In a sense people lifting their eyebrows with a small forehead or low hair line will be doing naturally what you will do with your fingers. I hope this is not too confusing I am working on making an illustration on how to do this. Let me know if you get it.

Bald Dude
09-17-2011, 02:14 PM
any pictures or more testament? i've reduced frequency, but the shed length is sitll the same.

BackwardsBalding
09-17-2011, 11:34 PM
any pictures or more testament? i've reduced frequency, but the shed length is sitll the same.

Shedding and Shed length are unrelated to MPB as far as I can tell. It seems that the fullest heads of hair shead hairs that are very short and sheads as often as someone loseing their hair. A few studies even measured the rate of hair loss and compared them and found no reason to believe balding individuals lose more hair or shorter hair sooner.

Samiam
09-18-2011, 12:31 PM
A few studies even measured the rate of hair loss and compared them and found no reason to believe balding individuals lose more hair or shorter hair sooner.

What??!..........

Imusprofit
09-18-2011, 04:39 PM
I'm new here and I wanted to share with you my hair loss experience related to frequency of ejaculation. I'm 49, and have had little intercourse in the last two years of my marriage. My hair is thinning, but still presentable and I've been taking a proscar generic pill cut into 4 (1.25mg Fin per day) and have been using rogain with decent results for the last 3 years. I finally got divorced and about six weeks ago, I met someone who I would describe as a nymphomaniac. We have sex three times a day with each session lasting about an hour and I usually ejaculate. Well, in the last two - three weeks, I have noticed a lot of shedding and I can now see my scalp near the top of my head. Coincidence? I don't think so. I'm going to double my Fin intake and switch to a 15mg minoxidil topical solution (************ or some other brand) and hope for the best.

mike22
09-19-2011, 06:49 AM
some studies about prolactin

http://www.dannyroddy.com/main/2011/7/19/prolactin-the-most-likely-cause-of-male-pattern-baldness.html

Prolactin provides the body with sexual gratification after sexual acts: The hormone counteracts the effect of dopamine, which is responsible for sexual arousal. This is thought to cause the sexual refractory period.[6] The amount of prolactin can be an indicator for the amount of sexual satisfaction and relaxation

Levels can rise after exercise, meals, sexual intercourse, minor surgical procedures

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prolactin

BackwardsBalding
09-19-2011, 11:14 AM
some studies about prolactin

http://www.dannyroddy.com/main/2011/7/19/prolactin-the-most-likely-cause-of-male-pattern-baldness.html

Prolactin provides the body with sexual gratification after sexual acts: The hormone counteracts the effect of dopamine, which is responsible for sexual arousal. This is thought to cause the sexual refractory period.[6] The amount of prolactin can be an indicator for the amount of sexual satisfaction and relaxation

Levels can rise after exercise, meals, sexual intercourse, minor surgical procedures

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prolactin

Thanks for the information. Just wondering though how does this pertain to the thread and could you summerize the findings?

BackwardsBalding
09-19-2011, 11:17 AM
What??!..........

LOL. when reading back that was a very confusing statement sorry. What I mean to say that a few studies have shown that even in individuals regrowing hair the shed continued as usual. Meaning shed length and amount really are not good indicators of hair progress. Although it seems that I shed way less now and my hair is noticeably thicker then it has been in years.

mike22
09-20-2011, 07:21 AM
Thanks for the information. Just wondering though how does this pertain to the thread and could you summerize the findings?


after ejaculation prolactin increases

prolactin also increases the activity of the 5 alpha reductase enzyme

so, more ejaculation, is a increase in prolactin , prolactin increase 5 alpha, 5 alpha = DHT

look at this site

http://www.dannyroddy.com/main/2011/...-baldness.html

BackwardsBalding
09-20-2011, 10:33 AM
after ejaculation prolactin increases

prolactin also increases the activity of the 5 alpha reductase enzyme

so, more ejaculation, is a increase in prolactin , prolactin increase 5 alpha, 5 alpha = DHT

look at this site

http://www.dannyroddy.com/main/2011/...-baldness.html

Thanks for the information. Sorry I didn't look at it first I was busy the first time I noticed you posted the link. Prolactin is increased after ejaculation and it too has a negative affect on hair. It seems that ejaculations is contributing to hair loss in more ways then just one.

Bald Dude
09-22-2011, 11:29 PM
link doesn't work.

Kamui85
09-23-2011, 12:05 AM
If ejaculation helps catapult/accelerate hair loss Iím beginning to believe abstention could help halt/slow down the process but not for re-growing lost hair. Iím in my second month abstaining, doing the scalp exercises, taking zinc (100mg), showering only with cold water; have seen NO progress at all. It was really hard at first, and failed miserably countless of times, but then I got the hang of it, and now Iím able to hold it in for an entire month, ejaculate once or twice, and back to another month of abstention. Will keep going until I reach 6 months at least though, because I got to admit I feel kind of proud, being able to control myself like this and not masturbate 4 or 5 times a day every single day like I been doing ever since my puberty (Iím 26 now).

NeedHairASAP
09-23-2011, 07:07 AM
If ejaculation helps catapult/accelerate hair loss I’m beginning to believe abstention could help halt/slow down the process but not for re-growing lost hair. I’m in my second month abstaining, doing the scalp exercises, taking zinc (100mg), showering only with cold water; have seen NO progress at all. It was really hard at first, and failed miserably countless of times, but then I got the hang of it, and now I’m able to hold it in for an entire month, ejaculate once or twice, and back to another month of abstention. Will keep going until I reach 6 months at least though, because I got to admit I feel kind of proud, being able to control myself like this and not masturbate 4 or 5 times a day every single day like I been doing ever since my puberty (I’m 26 now).


can you take that much zinc? I thought anything more than 40mg was unhealthy...


I haven't been abstaining but the zinc has definitely helped over the last month... I had strange thinning from temples back to ears and it seems
to have made that area regrow some of what was lost.

I'm still not sure if its just my hair cycling but will continue the 30mg or so of zinc a day and try to abstain... although that hasn't been going great

I think I had a pretty bad zinc deficiency so it could take awhile











now everytime I see a bald guy I can't help but be like..... i know whats wrong with you creeper

Kamui85
09-23-2011, 01:05 PM
can you take that much zinc? I thought anything more than 40mg was unhealthy...


I haven't been abstaining but the zinc has definitely helped over the last month... I had strange thinning from temples back to ears and it seems
to have made that area regrow some of what was lost.

I'm still not sure if its just my hair cycling but will continue the 30mg or so of zinc a day and try to abstain... although that hasn't been going great

I think I had a pretty bad zinc deficiency so it could take awhile











now everytime I see a bald guy I can't help but be like..... i know whats wrong with you creeper


LOL! that also comes to my mind every time a see one... and currently Iím slicing the 100mg zinc in half, so it should be around 50mg, now that you mention it I feel a lot of nauseas every time I take one, and a read on a site that nauseas are a sign of excess of zinc, so you got to wonder about the deficiency theory...

Samiam
09-23-2011, 07:13 PM
You got to worry about every theory and why we put up with this shit I haven't seen any results

Bald Dude
09-24-2011, 04:40 AM
If ejaculation helps catapult/accelerate hair loss Iím beginning to believe abstention could help halt/slow down the process but not for re-growing lost hair. Iím in my second month abstaining, doing the scalp exercises, taking zinc (100mg), showering only with cold water; have seen NO progress at all. It was really hard at first, and failed miserably countless of times, but then I got the hang of it, and now Iím able to hold it in for an entire month, ejaculate once or twice, and back to another month of abstention. Will keep going until I reach 6 months at least though, because I got to admit I feel kind of proud, being able to control myself like this and not masturbate 4 or 5 times a day every single day like I been doing ever since my puberty (Iím 26 now).

Do you notice anything? i haven't noticed my personally, but I realize it takes time.

NeedHairASAP
09-24-2011, 10:37 AM
LOL! that also comes to my mind every time a see one... and currently Iím slicing the 100mg zinc in half, so it should be around 50mg, now that you mention it I feel a lot of nauseas every time I take one, and a read on a site that nauseas are a sign of excess of zinc, so you got to wonder about the deficiency theory...


You should be taking it after you eat

Kamui85
09-24-2011, 12:59 PM
Do you notice anything? i haven't noticed my personally, but I realize it takes time.

well, as I said, as of my second month I dont noticed anything, but Iīm gonna keep on going until I reach 6 months or so... I am taking pictures, if I noticed any improvement at all Iīm willing to post them...

Bald Dude
09-24-2011, 02:24 PM
well, as I said, as of my second month I dont noticed anything, but Iīm gonna keep on going until I reach 6 months or so... I am taking pictures, if I noticed any improvement at all Iīm willing to post them...

What sepcifially are you suffering from?

Samiam
09-24-2011, 02:32 PM
What sepcifially are you suffering from?

Life?? Lol what do you think bro everyone here Has MPB

Kamui85
09-24-2011, 04:04 PM
Life?? Lol what do you think bro everyone here Has MPB

LOL excactly! I was gonna go with common flue but...

Bald Dude
09-26-2011, 09:26 PM
Life?? Lol what do you think bro everyone here Has MPB

What though? Actual receding? Hair thinning? Graying? Miniaturization? Shedding?

Kamui85
09-27-2011, 01:08 AM
What though? Actual receding? Hair thinning? Graying? Miniaturization? Shedding?

dude im like a noorwood 3 or something...

BackwardsBalding
09-28-2011, 07:06 PM
You got to worry about every theory and why we put up with this shit I haven't seen any results

Samian I need to explain laxity to you. Would you mind emailing me or posting pictures of your head. You can block your face. Its realy important that you send me clear pictures of your hairline from the front view and sides. Make one of the pictures with your eye brows raised up as high as you can so I can see the wrinkles it makes on your forehead. I will send you a diagram back afterwards with some non medical suggestions that will change your life.

Kamui85
09-29-2011, 12:20 AM
Samian I need to explain laxity to you. Would you mind emailing me or posting pictures of your head. You can block your face. Its realy important that you send me clear pictures of your hairline from the front view and sides. Make one of the pictures with your eye brows raised up as high as you can so I can see the wrinkles it makes on your forehead. I will send you a diagram back afterwards with some non medical suggestions that will change your life.

what about me? can I send some?

BackwardsBalding
09-29-2011, 02:42 PM
what about me? can I send some?

Absolutely. Baldingbackwards at hotmail dot com. Same directions its key that I get a clear picture of the wrinkles you make in your head when lifting your eyebrows. Donít bother blocking your face the picture will be completely confidential unless you want to. Include everything your doing to fight hair loss. I want to point out to the readers of this that I sell nothing, I advertise nothing, and I am not a Licensed Practitioner. At no point will I ever insist you buy anything in fact all the methods I strongly believe in are things you can do all by your self with no purchase at all. The email address is not a business email it is only a separate email from my personal email that I use for collecting information on hair loss.

BackwardsBalding
10-12-2011, 07:03 PM
Anybody that has followed me on this thread knows how confident I have been in my theories but even I am amazed with the outcome! My entire hair line is reversing it looks amazing black hairs by the hundreds popping up all over AND I AM NOT USING ANY OF THE FDA APPROVED MEDICATIONS. Good old scalp laxity, cold showers and decreased ejaculations seem to be all that is needed for my self. I hope others will ask questions if they are not seeing results or if they dont understand my methods because I am telling you all the truth IT WORKS!!!.

PS it feels pretty good to be able to debunk so many of the mysteries to hair loss I think I should call in this weekend and talk to Spencer about this so he too can spread the free knowledge I have discovered.

Kamui85
10-13-2011, 12:28 AM
I got to say, Iíve seen no regrow in these three months, but Iím beginning to feel as if the falling has halted.

BackwardsBalding
10-13-2011, 08:41 AM
I got to say, I’ve seen no regrow in these three months, but I’m beginning to feel as if the falling has halted.

Life up your eye brows in the mirror notice where the lines in your head make the wrinlkes. You will notice that this represents where loose skin is and for most is way south of your hair line. Get the hair line skins lose by gently tugging agaisnt it in every directions (circular) holding each tug for about 10 seconds. When your done with this take a warm shower and finish with really cold water running on your head for about 2 minutes then go to the mirror and look at your hair line every day. While doing this keep the decreased ejaculations too about once every week no more.

RegainingHealth
10-17-2011, 09:42 PM
I've been watching this thread for a while and it's true. The argument holds weight, there is definitely a link. For the big time baldie wankers GTFO, you're in denial. You're not man enough to quit so just do us a favour yeah. The ones that say where is your proof, the answer is I don't need proof. Experience is proof. Western Science can chat shi' sometimes. They don't even know where matter came from, jokers man, they think they know everything - FOOLS.

Big props to my brother BackwardsBalding representing the truth, you will be rewarded my friend for your great deeds. Just for passing knowledge on, it's a big thing. You got my support bro :) I'm happy for you that you have seen results. I just can't wait to see them myself! I believe I will, it's just a matter of time. I will be patient like a lion.

I personally experienced balding in my teens, 16-17 years old, I'd masturbate once a day after school. Then over the years my frequency increased and hair loss occured but my hair was still thick. As I got to 19 my scalp began to show. I'm now 21 and my scalp is visible, although I have hair covering it. My scalp has lost thickness and now it's time for me to call it quits. I've had enough. It's time to be young and energetic again. Let the good times roll.

The problem with masturbation is that it is addictive and once you fall into it, it becomes a drug and you need more and more to feel satisfied. One reason why people deny the connection of masturbation and hair loss is because masturbation is a part of their life, it's like they are married to it. They just won't give it up. It also has very damaging effects, if you're a very frequent masturbator you can experience acne, tiredness, just as I did. Anyway...

As human beings we should understand equilibrium and keeping the body in a balanced state. No it isn't the body's function to balance (I mean in this context, some people think ejaculation doesn't affect the body), don't give me that shi'. What determines our hair loss is our bad habits. Not sleeping on time, masturbating, stressing, eating the wrong foods. They say you are what you eat, but you are also what you do, I believe. If we masturbate we are worse than animals, you know why? Because even animals don't have this habit. Same with homosexuality. Animals are heterosexual.

Western science chats the most BS ive ever heard. Last year I read that the NHS (I live in the UK) were advised to produce leaflets to encourage young male teenagers to start mastubating twice a day to reduce the risks of prostate cancer. They essentially want to kill the youth. If they start masturbating they will become impotent, gauranteed.

Masturbation itself is the cause of prostate cancer and testicular cancer. It also causes other problems. Don't ask me to give evidence. The logic is clear. If you abuse your body, it will malfunction. Like I said earlier about keeping the body in a balanced state.

Anyway this is all I wanted to say. Big up all my brothers out there for not masturbating, for being man enough to go through this trial. I hope you all see results, even if you regrow 1 hair, it is a big thing and goes a long way.

Toodles!

Matthew

BackwardsBalding
10-18-2011, 06:30 PM
Matthew,

Thanks for the insight bro. Im glad you are reducing your ejaculations for hair loss and I wanted to stress the importance of relieving the pressure put on by a tight scalp. Do the laxity exercises in all areas that you are balding or have a tight scalp and do it every day with a cold shower after or before is best. Let me know if you have any further questions and thanks for all the positive feed back you are right on the mark about the U.S. often being full of shi*. Its sad to think of all the young men out there losing hair because of a few scientist completely misleading the world on masturbation and excessive sex. What a damn shame. Good luck bro.

uninformed
10-18-2011, 07:43 PM
I've been watching this thread for a while and it's true. The argument holds weight, there is definitely a link. For the big time baldie wankers GTFO, you're in denial. You're not man enough to quit so just do us a favour yeah. The ones that say where is your proof, the answer is I don't need proof. Experience is proof. Western Science can chat shi' sometimes. They don't even know where matter came from, jokers man, they think they know everything - FOOLS.

Big props to my brother BackwardsBalding representing the truth, you will be rewarded my friend for your great deeds. Just for passing knowledge on, it's a big thing. You got my support bro :) I'm happy for you that you have seen results. I just can't wait to see them myself! I believe I will, it's just a matter of time. I will be patient like a lion.

I personally experienced balding in my teens, 16-17 years old, I'd masturbate once a day after school. Then over the years my frequency increased and hair loss occured but my hair was still thick. As I got to 19 my scalp began to show. I'm now 21 and my scalp is visible, although I have hair covering it. My scalp has lost thickness and now it's time for me to call it quits. I've had enough. It's time to be young and energetic again. Let the good times roll.

The problem with masturbation is that it is addictive and once you fall into it, it becomes a drug and you need more and more to feel satisfied. One reason why people deny the connection of masturbation and hair loss is because masturbation is a part of their life, it's like they are married to it. They just won't give it up. It also has very damaging effects, if you're a very frequent masturbator you can experience acne, tiredness, just as I did. Anyway...

As human beings we should understand equilibrium and keeping the body in a balanced state. No it isn't the body's function to balance (I mean in this context, some people think ejaculation doesn't affect the body), don't give me that shi'. What determines our hair loss is our bad habits. Not sleeping on time, masturbating, stressing, eating the wrong foods. They say you are what you eat, but you are also what you do, I believe. If we masturbate we are worse than animals, you know why? Because even animals don't have this habit. Same with homosexuality. Animals are heterosexual.

Western science chats the most BS ive ever heard. Last year I read that the NHS (I live in the UK) were advised to produce leaflets to encourage young male teenagers to start mastubating twice a day to reduce the risks of prostate cancer. They essentially want to kill the youth. If they start masturbating they will become impotent, gauranteed.

Masturbation itself is the cause of prostate cancer and testicular cancer. It also causes other problems. Don't ask me to give evidence. The logic is clear. If you abuse your body, it will malfunction. Like I said earlier about keeping the body in a balanced state.

Anyway this is all I wanted to say. Big up all my brothers out there for not masturbating, for being man enough to go through this trial. I hope you all see results, even if you regrow 1 hair, it is a big thing and goes a long way.

Toodles!

Matthew

First masturbation, now homosexuals - Up next, having sex with a condom on causes hair to fall out!

BackwardsBalding
10-19-2011, 12:47 AM
First masturbation, now homosexuals - Up next, having sex with a condom on causes hair to fall out!

He was not connecting hair loss with homsexuals. In fact he was merely stating that the way our government and really society teaches homosexuality as ok aids to more homosexuals. I believe he was connecting this to the common lie in America that masturbation especially excessive amounts of it are ok. That statment is simply a lie and its being told in every junior and regular high school in the country. This is not an uncommon thought process outside the United States. By the way, why are you so offended by his statments?

RichardDawkins
10-19-2011, 04:12 AM
Oh God i hope those fake posters got banned here and this thread closed. Its stupid Shill Christian Bullshit at best.

But to all Wanking Stop Supporters here, in your case your parents should have taken a nice walk in the park instead of breeding you guys

BackwardsBalding
10-19-2011, 09:25 AM
Oh God i hope those fake posters got banned here and this thread closed. Its stupid Shill Christian Bullshit at best.

But to all Wanking Stop Supporters here, in your case your parents should have taken a nice walk in the park instead of breeding you guys

Your a scorned old bald man Richard Dawkins. The previous poster called out your mind set perfectly. Your someone who relies on masturbation for gratification like most of us have however you are so severely addicted to it that you refuse to except that it could even be a factor in hair loss. Itís absurd and closed minded to never even consider something so obviously connected. You are a joke obsessed with losing his hair and miserably lonely to boot. To be honest I feel very sorry for you and only hope my harsh words might snap you out of the downward spiral of a life you are living. Dawkins....There is help out there for you. There services and programs that you could talk your way through your...frustrations. If not that then maybe you should grow a pair and realize life is not fare. Being a little bitc* and taking out your angers on other people makes you a weak old man. What happen to aging gracefully? What happen to treating others the way you wanted to be treated? What happen to looking on the bright side, being optimistic, the glass is half full Mr Dawkins!!!! Go find yourself and see the beauty in life.

BackwardsBalding
10-19-2011, 09:29 AM
Can you please verify that this is my only active account.

Bald Dude
10-19-2011, 07:45 PM
Can't there be pics by now?

Kamui85
10-19-2011, 11:03 PM
He was not connecting hair loss with homsexuals. In fact he was merely stating that the way our government and really society teaches homosexuality as ok aids to more homosexuals. I believe he was connecting this to the common lie in America that masturbation especially excessive amounts of it are ok. That statment is simply a lie and its being told in every junior and regular high school in the country. This is not an uncommon thought process outside the United States. By the way, why are you so offended by his statments?

Dude I have an objective mind, Iíve been fallowing this thread since the beginning, doing everything you say and Iím almost at my 3rd month of abstention. BUT you and RegainingHealth both are so wrong in regards to homosexuals, thereís GENES, CROMOSOMES, HORMONES (which in turn affect the sector in our hypothalamus that deals with sexuality.) and a LOT of other biological factors involved, thereís lots of books out there, homosexuality is a natural variation present in all our recorded history and in other species as well, so thereís no saying homosexuality is wrong or right, its just is, if it is accepted socially or not in a determined time and place its another story. By the way, Iím continuing youíre suggestions but as of three months of abstention Iíve seen no regrow in fact I believe I can see more of my scalp... And Iím not saying this now to troll on you like RichardDawkins is, I have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

uninformed
10-20-2011, 03:39 PM
He was not connecting hair loss with homsexuals. In fact he was merely stating that the way our government and really society teaches homosexuality as ok aids to more homosexuals. I believe he was connecting this to the common lie in America that masturbation especially excessive amounts of it are ok. That statment is simply a lie and its being told in every junior and regular high school in the country. This is not an uncommon thought process outside the United States. By the way, why are you so offended by his statments?

so being gay is not okay now? haha you sir, are a bad person.

btw, since when is making a sarcastic comment a sign of someone being offended? implying that someone is gay wont get you very far walloftextneverfails

BackwardsBalding
10-20-2011, 06:32 PM
Dude I have an objective mind, Iíve been fallowing this thread since the beginning, doing everything you say and Iím almost at my 3rd month of abstention. BUT you and RegainingHealth both are so wrong in regards to homosexuals, thereís GENES, CROMOSOMES, HORMONES (which in turn affect the sector in our hypothalamus that deals with sexuality.) and a LOT of other biological factors involved, thereís lots of books out there, homosexuality is a natural variation present in all our recorded history and in other species as well, so thereís no saying homosexuality is wrong or right, its just is, if it is accepted socially or not in a determined time and place its another story. By the way, Iím continuing youíre suggestions but as of three months of abstention Iíve seen no regrow in fact I believe I can see more of my scalp... And Iím not saying this now to troll on you like RichardDawkins is, I have nothing to lose and everything to gain.


Yea yea I never said homosexuality was bad nor do I care what their sexual Preference is. I strongly believe in free will and they are entitled to the same human rights as any of us. However, I donít believe there are animals in nature that are homosexual. Just so you know dolphins are the only recorded and it is thought that they did this out of play not pleasure. Once again I am not condoning nor condemning homosexuality, I would have to say that a few of the homosexuals I have known in my life were very pleasant company. Anyways are you using scalp laxity exercises thatís very important to do correctly. Can you send some pics to my email with your eyebrows lifted up and of your hair line. I will explain and send you some pics of the re-growth I have seen so far.

BackwardsBalding
10-20-2011, 06:34 PM
Can't there be pics by now?

Yes but it takes time to see witht the naked eye a few more months and I will have some great before afters that I would be willing to email individuals.

BackwardsBalding
10-20-2011, 06:36 PM
so being gay is not okay now? haha you sir, are a bad person.

btw, since when is making a sarcastic comment a sign of someone being offended? implying that someone is gay wont get you very far walloftextneverfails

Please copy and paste the part of my post that I said being gay was not ok.

uninformed
10-20-2011, 06:49 PM
Please copy and paste the part of my post that I said being gay was not ok.

Please copy and paste the part of my post in which I stated that I was offended.

BackwardsBalding
10-20-2011, 06:54 PM
Please copy and paste the part of my post in which I stated that I was offended.

I stand corrected. I misunderstood you.

How to grow hair back- You must do them all.

1. Decrease Ejaculations
2. Increase blood flow ( Exercise)
3. Eat good (b vitamins, Zinc, and Protein!!!)
4. Decrease symptoms of tight scalp ( Laxity Exercises)
5. Sit back be patient it will take a while be consistent with the treatments.

RegainingHealth
10-20-2011, 06:59 PM
Matthew,

Thanks for the insight bro. Im glad you are reducing your ejaculations for hair loss and I wanted to stress the importance of relieving the pressure put on by a tight scalp. Do the laxity exercises in all areas that you are balding or have a tight scalp and do it every day with a cold shower after or before is best. Let me know if you have any further questions and thanks for all the positive feed back you are right on the mark about the U.S. often being full of shi*. Its sad to think of all the young men out there losing hair because of a few scientist completely misleading the world on masturbation and excessive sex. What a damn shame. Good luck bro.

:) Just standing up for the truth bro that's it. Could you please inbox me with further info about these laxity exercises? The other thing I have recently taken up is cutting out all meat; red meat, chicken and fish. My father eats alot of red meat and chicken. It is a known fact that meat ups your hormones. Also in todays day and age where they inject hormones into animals and give them chemicals; and ofcourse that all goes into us. So yeah I believe this should help me.

I'm wondering if I should take a supplement. I'm not badly balding, just scalp visible and hair loss on one side of my head; on the right. I have this thought that I shouldn't take supplements and just eat foods to get nutrients. My diet isn't rich in any vitamins (Iron and vitamins come from cereals that I eat twice a day; morning and afternoon). I mainly eat wheat and dairy foods; recently eating yogurt :P


Oh God i hope those fake posters got banned here and this thread closed. Its stupid Shill Christian Bullshit at best.

But to all Wanking Stop Supporters here, in your case your parents should have taken a nice walk in the park instead of breeding you guys

Hey man, I hope you're doing well. I am no fake poster. What's with all the aggressiveness. Why should we not be allowed to express our opinions on here? and FYI I am not a Christian.


Dude I have an objective mind, I’ve been fallowing this thread since the beginning, doing everything you say and I’m almost at my 3rd month of abstention. BUT you and RegainingHealth both are so wrong in regards to homosexuals, there’s GENES, CROMOSOMES, HORMONES (which in turn affect the sector in our hypothalamus that deals with sexuality.) and a LOT of other biological factors involved, there’s lots of books out there, homosexuality is a natural variation present in all our recorded history and in other species as well, so there’s no saying homosexuality is wrong or right, its just is, if it is accepted socially or not in a determined time and place its another story. By the way, I’m continuing you’re suggestions but as of three months of abstention I’ve seen no regrow in fact I believe I can see more of my scalp... And I’m not saying this now to troll on you like RichardDawkins is, I have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

Genes, chromosomes, hormones, brain activity. So we have to believe everything science tells you right? Give me a break dude, scientists themselves are making discoveries. They said light traveled the fastest, now they say Einstein's theory is wrong and there are particles that travel faster than the speed of light. Scientists are jokers. Scientists will never understand some things, we as human beings are limited to some things; things that we don't even know about. Even if we tried, we would fail to acknowledge how certain things are, the way they are. Homosexuality is slowly being accepted by people, if scientists said it was wrong they wouldn't buy it. The whole science about hormones causes homosexuality at birth and blah de blah is complete BS. Listen dude, God made Adam and Eve right, not Adam and Steve. Simples

I have nothing against a person who chooses to be a homosexual. I believe in rights yes. People are free to do what they want. It doesn't bother me.

Kamui85
10-20-2011, 08:43 PM
:) Just standing up for the truth bro that's it. Could you please inbox me with further info about these laxity exercises? The other thing I have recently taken up is cutting out all meat; red meat, chicken and fish. My father eats alot of red meat and chicken. It is a known fact that meat ups your hormones. Also in todays day and age where they inject hormones into animals and give them chemicals; and ofcourse that all goes into us. So yeah I believe this should help me.

I'm wondering if I should take a supplement. I'm not badly balding, just scalp visible and hair loss on one side of my head; on the right. I have this thought that I shouldn't take supplements and just eat foods to get nutrients. My diet isn't rich in any vitamins (Iron and vitamins come from cereals that I eat twice a day; morning and afternoon). I mainly eat wheat and dairy foods; recently eating yogurt :P



Hey man, I hope you're doing well. I am no fake poster. What's with all the aggressiveness. Why should we not be allowed to express our opinions on here? and FYI I am not a Christian.



Genes, chromosomes, hormones, brain activity. So we have to believe everything science tells you right? Give me a break dude, scientists themselves are making discoveries. They said light traveled the fastest, now they say Einstein's theory is wrong and there are particles that travel faster than the speed of light. Scientists are jokers. Scientists will never understand some things, we as human beings are limited to some things; things that we don't even know about. Even if we tried, we would fail to acknowledge how certain things are, the way they are. Homosexuality is slowly being accepted by people, if scientists said it was wrong they wouldn't buy it. The whole science about hormones causes homosexuality at birth and blah de blah is complete BS. Listen dude, God made Adam and Eve right, not Adam and Steve. Simples

I have nothing against a person who chooses to be a homosexual. I believe in rights yes. People are free to do what they want. It doesn't bother me.


I would recommend Simon Levay's 'The Science of Sexual Orientation' IF you showed to be an intelligent individual, but since youíre just a Christian Neanderthal go read some ancient fantasy story!

RichardDawkins
10-21-2011, 02:39 AM
Now its official this forum/thread is hijacked by trolls.

First of all they call themselves Bro all the time, strangly no one else does. Also those NEWLY registered posters are of course only in this whole masturbation thing RIGHT.

Of course i am agressive when i see such Bullshit performed by morons. If i would be the admin here, this thread would be locked, and everyone involved get a free time card.

I mean whats next? Racisms towards other people like " If you breath the air a balding afro american has, you get bald because thats what God said"

I hereby say on the behalf of all people with an intact brain **** YOU and your stupid useless non proven threads and claims which are Bullshit

krewel
10-21-2011, 04:36 AM
This thread made my day. It's so stupid that I find it funny again. Hairloss cured by stopping mastrubating, epic. We would have way other problems than hairloss if mastrubating would raise DHT-levels significantly..

close this thread, please. It's nonsense.

Zoidberg
10-21-2011, 05:15 AM
LOL, I found the thread quite entertaining too... blatant false accounts and funny banter with it.
But not completely useless, I researched the zinc issue and it does seem that you can deplete zinc if you overdo things... so just remember to add a zinc capsule to your diet to avoid any thinning hair!
In a "full load" the zinc level is about 135Ī40 micrograms/ml for healthy men*, so consider a potentially big 10ml load to be .175x10= 1.75mg of zinc.
Minimum loads would be a carefree 2ml resuling in .095 x 2= .19mg of zinc
This could possibly be significant if you are not supplementing and at it like a mad man lol

*according to Wikipedia

Bald Dude
10-21-2011, 04:14 PM
Yes but it takes time to see witht the naked eye a few more months and I will have some great before afters that I would be willing to email individuals.

Should I PM you? Or what not? i'm just trying to find more hope and support in pics. thats all.

RegainingHealth
10-21-2011, 11:04 PM
I would recommend Simon Levay's 'The Science of Sexual Orientation' IF you showed to be an intelligent individual, but since youíre just a Christian Neanderthal go read some ancient fantasy story!

You animal. Actually lower than an animal! I told you I wasn't a Christian. I won't read that book, only because you've misunderstood sexuality. If I read the book I would refute all the BULLSHIT that was in it because that's all it is; a bunch of man made BS. FYI i'm an intelligent individual, not like you who believes homosexuality is all due to 'hormones'.


Now its official this forum/thread is hijacked by trolls.

First of all they call themselves Bro all the time, strangly no one else does. Also those NEWLY registered posters are of course only in this whole masturbation thing RIGHT.

Of course i am agressive when i see such Bullshit performed by morons. If i would be the admin here, this thread would be locked, and everyone involved get a free time card.

I mean whats next? Racisms towards other people like " If you breath the air a balding afro american has, you get bald because thats what God said"

I hereby say on the behalf of all people with an intact brain **** YOU and your stupid useless non proven threads and claims which are Bullshit

LMFAO. You're such a retard. So i'm a troll because I keep saying bro? Just go back to your cellar and wank off to the baldy in Star Trek.

If I had my own court, judge and jury, i'd sit back and let history tell the story and then have you locked up you IDIOT.

You wankers are dumb, you've never thought why people are making a connection between the two subjects; it's all over the web. You just can't accept it.

Honestly I LOL'd at your post. Baldy :cool::eek:

BackwardsBalding
10-24-2011, 05:57 PM
Should I PM you? Or what not? i'm just trying to find more hope and support in pics. thats all.

just email me *****************************, baldingbackwards at hotmail dot com.

I have some really good pics but I really didn't see any big improvments on the growing back untill improving laxity of the scalp. I can explain this better if you email me a picture with your eyebrows lifted up so i can see how loose your hair line skin is.

Bald Dude
12-02-2011, 01:14 AM
its about 2 months since, any updates on real pictures of progress?

Kamui85
12-03-2011, 02:09 PM
I donít know if heíll answer because last time I e-mail him, he told me he was banned. As for me, today I reach my fourth month of abstention. I been doing everything he recommended and although I felt like the falling had halted in the second month Iím not so sure right now. Anyway Iím going to keep this going till I reach the sixth month to compare before and after photos (that would be in February).

clandestine
12-03-2011, 06:56 PM
As for me, today I reach my fourth month of abstention. I been doing everything he recommended [...]Iím going to keep this going till I reach the sixth month to compare before and after photos.

This is hilarious, frankly. You seriously bought into this dude? He's trolling, hard. Go masturbate or something.

Bald Dude
12-07-2011, 12:05 AM
I donít know if heíll answer because last time I e-mail him, he told me he was banned. As for me, today I reach my fourth month of abstention. I been doing everything he recommended and although I felt like the falling had halted in the second month Iím not so sure right now. Anyway Iím going to keep this going till I reach the sixth month to compare before and after photos (that would be in February).

Did you notice any difference in the length or thickness of the hair that's fallen out? I've noticed my length to be the same. Some hairs are thicker, while others thinner. For the most part, it has thinned out.

Kamui85
12-07-2011, 12:03 PM
Did you notice any difference in the length or thickness of the hair that's fallen out? I've noticed my length to be the same. Some hairs are thicker, while others thinner. For the most part, it has thinned out.

Much the same also... If I took something out of this maybe its self control, although physically I feel exactly the same as before abstention.

clandestine
12-07-2011, 05:23 PM
Please go masturbate. I say this for concern over your health. Probably not good to abstain for a period of 6 months or longer, you may be hurting yourself. Do some real research. And above all, please ejaculate sometime soon. Thanks.

Kamui85
12-08-2011, 09:18 PM
Well, for those interested I would like to clarify that itís not absolute abstention for six months; but ejaculating 2 to 4 times, between 2 or so days, and then back to another month of abstention and so on.

VulcanLogic
12-26-2011, 12:54 AM
Read all of the following.

OK I have read quite a bit of your material and certainly enough to get the gist of your proposition. You are quite correct on one point androgenic alopecia should not be considered a 'desease' nor should it be considered a disease.

As to the rest of your material I would say this is a perfect example of dicto simpliciter (look it up) and a healthy infusion of misinformation.

Your initial preamble (ramblings) are full of inaccuracies, here are a few examples to correct you.

* Not all androgenic alopecia (AA) starts at the temples or crown.

* Not all AA progresses to a full crown (bald head) loss.

* Contrary to 'your' belief science actually knows only a small fraction of the complex mechanism that results in AA.

* We don't know for certain that DHT is the main cause of hair loss, we do know that it appears that DHT is part of the mechanism involved. However even if DHT is integral it could for example be more to do with receptor site rather than DHT.

* We don't know if DHT is excessive in both the scalp and the blood stream in the majority of cases of AA and in fact there is no hard evidence to draw a cause and effect relationship as DHT levels can be identical in those with and those without AA, in fact it could be that the enzyme 5α-reductase is the culprit rather than DHT.

* Other mammals do have plenty of incidences of AA, notably the male Tsavo lions, dogs, macaques, and even our closest primate species the chimpanzee.

* Both the big cats, domesticated cats and host of other species will suffer from alopecia and a host of other health issues related to a nutrient deficient diet.

* We do not know that AA is caused by a hormonal 'in balance' (imbalance) in fact there is very little to support that those with men with AA have significantly different hormonal levels to those without AA.

* Some women do suffer with AA this appears to occur as oestrogen levels decline with age which has lead to the hypothesis that oestrogen has a protective role and as it declines women hair follicles are exposed to DHT leading to AA in a similar way to men. Though I stress this is unproven.

* Logically women and men are not exposed to the same gene pool, as a result of the 'XY' chromosomes vs 'XX', hence the reason we have sex linked diseases.

* There is absolutely no evidence that the prostate is the 'single cause for hair loss' nor have I seen any credible evidence to make such an assumption, the prostate is however regulated by DHT which is synthesized in the prostate, testes, hair follicles, and adrenal glands by the enzyme 5α-reductase.

* There is no credible evidence to suggest that ejaculation has anything other than a transitory effect on DHT, in fact if we take your own results on face value your DHT level actually fell below the pre ejaculation level a short time after. And once again I stress that there is no credible evidence that those with AA have significantly different serum DHT levels to those without it.

* There is evidence of a potential increase in both benign prostatic hyperplasia and cancer of the prostate in those with low levels of sexual activity (ejaculation), you may like to think of this as clearing the pipes if you like.

Overwhelmingly the evidence is that AA is a genetically determined outcome, we can see evidence of this all around us in our groups of family and friends. The mere fact that such a high percentage of men will experience AA is sufficient to conclude that it is a natural process that most will experience to a greater or lesser degree.

Whilst we all may like to delay the loss of a youthful appearance lets not lose perspective and engage in silly and potentially unhealthy self abuse.

clandestine
12-26-2011, 12:57 AM
/thread.
+1

67mph
12-26-2011, 03:41 AM
I hope this is the final nail in the coffin for this thread.

Educated info that sounds perfectly and understandably logic, nice one VulcanLogic, a homerun with your first post perhaps!

57mph

AnsbachKid
01-01-2012, 05:35 PM
VulcanLogic, wonderful sane info, only one thing left out...

RNF also said ejaculation in itself furthered the continuation of hair loss because of the expenditure of nutrients important for hair production... Which I must say, if this were true, a large portion of athletes, especially marathonners and lifters, would be bald...

So, RNF, seriously, learn to choose carefully about what you read, and just because it's on the internet, doesn't mean it's right or true... Wikipedia... Because even many newspaper articales are false... so just be careful what you read...

Bald Dude
01-11-2012, 08:28 PM
pics yet./

ramini
01-12-2012, 12:09 AM
Hey buddy I think of your theory this way I am not sure if this is right but if you were born genetically to have hair loss in some point or another in your life then that means your genes are sensitive to DHT hormones and believe it or not I bet they are people in this world who are sex sick and love to just paint the wall with their sperm but they dont go bald so what do you make of that. so I think DHT is produced by sperm production but not always the hair gets affected by DHT so it all depends on your genes if they are messed up then that has nothing to do with sex drive and I do beleive that there's a link between sex and hair lost because if there wasnt then why would Propecia affect your sex drive but it all again depends on if your hair follicle genes are sensitive to DHT or not and also there has been a billions of dollar industry behind researching against MPB so how could you figure all of this out by your self but all of this high dollar scientist couldn't up to date?

cornwellsb
01-12-2012, 02:59 PM
I actually got caught up reading this a few months ago which took almost a day and it was very entertaining. There may be a little scientific evidence behind this but only a small amount.

I'm very very sexually active where I've been getting off at least twice a day for 25 or more years and I just now started losing a small amount of hair (bald spot) in my late 40's.

I think the author of this stated that no animal goes bald in the wild because they don't ejaculate like humans. This person should go watch animal planet more!! There are quite a few primates on our planet that ejaculate hourly while awake and never go bald.

FYI John F Kennedy was believed to be a sex addict and he had great hair.

Russel brand and charlie sheen are both sex addict and also have great hair although they both could have had hair transplants.

My father went almost completely bald and my mom used to gripe that he didn't give her enough sex and it wasn't because she was ugly. Maybe he was secretly gay or jerking off too much but i doubt it lol.

I had a lot of those ah ha!! moments in college too and even thought i figured out how to solve the worlds energy problems but then i realized lt was just the pot i was smoking.

sausage
03-18-2012, 02:47 AM
Like I said its produced in the prostate and on rare occasions some people may be producing DHT at naturally to high of level at a younge age were you turned on alot very easily even an erection prompts the prostate to begin secreating fluids. Just the fact that you lost your hair at 16 says something was not functioning correctly thats really younge for anybody to begin loseing there hair. Propecia would be benifical in reducing the size and secretions for people in your case. And if you began using it and it helped with out ejaculatons I would bet if you started ejaculating it would counter the affects and you would continue slowly but surely loseing your hair.

I started losing my hair at 16 too, its nothing to do with something not functioning correctly, we are just the ones cursed with mpb at such a young age, i am sure some people start balding even earlier, there are a few ppl my age that started balding in their teens.

clandestine
03-18-2012, 06:31 AM
I started losing my hair at 16 too, its nothing to do with something not functioning correctly, we are just the ones cursed with mpb at such a young age, i am sure some people start balding even earlier, there are a few ppl my age that started balding in their teens.

sausage; I'm disappointed you revived this thread. Please try to refrain from posting in here, it only serves to spread misinformation.

doke
03-18-2012, 06:33 AM
you guys need to get on some sort of topical antiandrogen with topical minox as well.:)

Jcm800
03-18-2012, 06:44 AM
Hey doke, how's it going? Getting any regrowth from the various treatments you try/tried?

doke
03-18-2012, 07:08 AM
not really i have just started my old bottle of sinere topical flutagel which is 1% flutamide as in the old sintov study a potant antiandrogen,the reason i have is that its become available again from a web site i found that ships worldwide.
Its very interesting that sinere stopped selling there finastagel and flutagel and nanominox a few years ago to the public but a company has started selling it again along with polaris labs new nr10 16% minoxidil and they also stock genhair products.
I still think that either ru58841 which can be purchased in powder form and mixed yourself in small batches at 10gs and topical flutamide or other antiandrogens in topical form along with a minox type regrowth agent may be the way to regrow hair.
But its still trial and error as to what works for you yourself which is a hassle i have found a seller that offers the ru powder at $280 and that is cheapest i have found and mixed should last a year or more depending on the % you want to achive,i do like the ru more because it is not so much systemic and local in application.
You have to remember to seal the ru powder which is in a bag in an airtight container and store in the freezer and as i said take out a small amount to mix a months worth which you need scales to measure the right amount,much of the mixing info is available at other hair sites which are using such as hh and el duterino who is one that has had good success with it to continue.:eek:

Tracy C
03-18-2012, 09:03 AM
Hey doke, how's it going? Getting any regrowth from the various treatments you try/tried?

I am more intersted to know if doke has stuck with any one treatment long enough to actually determine if it is doing any good. It does not seem like that is the case. It takes a long time to treat hereditary hair loss. Time that is measured in months and years, not days and weeks. Personally, I think doke is wasting a lot of time and money that would be better spent on the basic proven treatments.

Tracy C
03-18-2012, 09:42 AM
You haven't explained any of that anywhere that I have seen. You are very scattered and hard to follow in your postings - and it is now obvious that you don't pay appropriate attention. So calm down. I tell you what. I won't read or respond to anything you post from now on. O.K.

doke
03-18-2012, 09:52 AM
im sorry but i thought you was winding me up? i have been at this hair loss game for 30 years and still have not found the holy grail i do not want to get like some and say this or that treatment works,but the antiandrogen topical may be the one if we can find the right one with no dodgy side affects.
I will delete my comment tracy.:eek:

doke
03-18-2012, 09:55 AM
there seems to be some success with the ru58841 and its one thing i really always wanted to try its just the cost and having to mix it yourself.:eek:

kaandereli
03-18-2012, 01:38 PM
i have no doubt that sexuality is the prime cause of MPB.Although there is no clear direction between them due to the involvement of other factors like stress , malnutrition, etc. , the effect of sexuality is undeniable.

i also agree with the first thread in porn's indirect precipitation of hair loss.People who watch porn frequently not only loses zinc due to ejaculation but they frequently make their mind busy with fantasies that constantly pumps androgen to body.
i want to give you the example of stephen hawking.as you know he has no control over his body since 21.Check out his photos from web and notice that he has a full head of hair.
you can give the example of porn stars but show me a guy in his 60s who didn't have a receding hair line.
although there is no 100% percent relationship btw MPB-sex , we can't deny that it is less than 50%.

clandestine
03-18-2012, 03:57 PM
*Sigh*. Alright, here it is again.


OK I have read quite a bit of your material and certainly enough to get the gist of your proposition. You are quite correct on one point androgenic alopecia should not be considered a 'desease' nor should it be considered a disease.

As to the rest of your material I would say this is a perfect example of dicto simpliciter (look it up) and a healthy infusion of misinformation.

Your initial preamble (ramblings) are full of inaccuracies, here are a few examples to correct you.

* Not all androgenic alopecia (AA) starts at the temples or crown.

* Not all AA progresses to a full crown (bald head) loss.

* Contrary to 'your' belief science actually knows only a small fraction of the complex mechanism that results in AA.

* We don't know for certain that DHT is the main cause of hair loss, we do know that it appears that DHT is part of the mechanism involved. However even if DHT is integral it could for example be more to do with receptor site rather than DHT.

* We don't know if DHT is excessive in both the scalp and the blood stream in the majority of cases of AA and in fact there is no hard evidence to draw a cause and effect relationship as DHT levels can be identical in those with and those without AA, in fact it could be that the enzyme 5α-reductase is the culprit rather than DHT.

* Other mammals do have plenty of incidences of AA, notably the male Tsavo lions, dogs, macaques, and even our closest primate species the chimpanzee.

* Both the big cats, domesticated cats and host of other species will suffer from alopecia and a host of other health issues related to a nutrient deficient diet.

* We do not know that AA is caused by a hormonal 'in balance' (imbalance) in fact there is very little to support that those with men with AA have significantly different hormonal levels to those without AA.

* Some women do suffer with AA this appears to occur as oestrogen levels decline with age which has lead to the hypothesis that oestrogen has a protective role and as it declines women hair follicles are exposed to DHT leading to AA in a similar way to men. Though I stress this is unproven.

* Logically women and men are not exposed to the same gene pool, as a result of the 'XY' chromosomes vs 'XX', hence the reason we have sex linked diseases.

* There is absolutely no evidence that the prostate is the 'single cause for hair loss' nor have I seen any credible evidence to make such an assumption, the prostate is however regulated by DHT which is synthesized in the prostate, testes, hair follicles, and adrenal glands by the enzyme 5α-reductase.

* There is no credible evidence to suggest that ejaculation has anything other than a transitory effect on DHT, in fact if we take your own results on face value your DHT level actually fell below the pre ejaculation level a short time after. And once again I stress that there is no credible evidence that those with AA have significantly different serum DHT levels to those without it.

* There is evidence of a potential increase in both benign prostatic hyperplasia and cancer of the prostate in those with low levels of sexual activity (ejaculation), you may like to think of this as clearing the pipes if you like.

Overwhelmingly the evidence is that AA is a genetically determined outcome, we can see evidence of this all around us in our groups of family and friends. The mere fact that such a high percentage of men will experience AA is sufficient to conclude that it is a natural process that most will experience to a greater or lesser degree.

Whilst we all may like to delay the loss of a youthful appearance lets not lose perspective and engage in silly and potentially unhealthy self abuse.

Please try to refrain from posting in this thread; it only serves to spread misinformation.

/thread.

Morbo
03-18-2012, 04:09 PM
i have no doubt that sexuality is the prime cause of MPB... the effect of sexuality is undeniable... i want to give you the example of stephen hawking.as you know he has no control over his body since 21.Check out his photos from web and notice that he has a full head of hair...

Just brilliant. Comical geniosity, weren't for that fact that I know you're 100 % serious about it. :D

doke
03-19-2012, 03:56 AM
not the sex thing again please am i going mad help.:eek:

doke
03-19-2012, 03:57 AM
come back tracy c all is forgiven:D:D:D

gmonasco
03-19-2012, 09:06 AM
Why do most Porn stars have a full head of hair? I dont get it.

Perhaps because it's a myth that male porn actors uniformly engage in vastly greater quantities of sex than the average young male.

clandestine
03-19-2012, 09:09 AM
Hm, crazy idea: perhaps we should stop posting in this thread, as the basis of ResearchNeverFail's findings already been debunked, and in doing so we only serve to further propagate the spread of misinformation for newer members to find? Crazy, crazy, I know. Could work though? Maybe?

doke
03-19-2012, 09:12 AM
sex makes you go blind or is it that right hand gesture hahaha;):)

beatinghairloss
07-16-2012, 12:04 PM
sex makes you go blind or is it that right hand gesture hahaha;):)

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Thats me blowing the cob webs off this thread....Update to any readers I have compiled about 10 people using the reduced ejaculation method for years and haulting hairloss completely but not seeing any new regrowth. Has anybody using also the scalp exercises and laxity seen any improvement?

johnswager
08-19-2016, 11:35 PM
ppl need to see this. there is a connection. Not talking about sex. I'm taking about stop the excessive masturbation/eyaculation, the right amount of zinc. and heathly diet.. this is the cure. Rogaine can help but not for long.

Jedgreen
08-24-2016, 05:00 AM
Nothing is a cure for everyone.
But, by removing each and every things that could add problems to your hair, maybe you can do something.
We think that we can't beat genetic because MPB is present in our family and "that's the way it is, end of the story" but to me the thing to focus on is also the lifestyle of those family members. Were they eating healthy? Did they smoke? etc... and do YOU have the same lifestyle?
If yes, then your genetic will probably react the same, but I think that breaking the chain of bad habits can do something in certain cases. The human body is meant to react to its environment. If your genetic is programed to support only a certain amount of "agression" (being DHT, pollution, junk food, lack of sleep, poor hydration, etc...) then you need to wonder "what is the amount that I can tolerate?", "I am way above that level?" (in this case minox, fin, etc is your only hope), or "Am I just above it?"...
In the first case you're ****ed even if you live the most healthy life... but in the second maybe you could do something that you're not doing because "it's-genetic-in-your-family". And yes, it IS genetic but if you have the same kind of lifestyle than him, then maybe there is something to try before going the minox and fin route...

burtandernie
08-29-2016, 06:00 PM
All of the try diet, exercise, sleep, cleaner air, shower filters... are basically the equivalent of saying you have no idea what causes MPB at all. I mean your not even saying anything really. Yes try to be more perfect in all aspects of your life and maybe your hair will regrow. Thanks for the tip. That seems to work out well for the majority of balding men out there as if all men follow some generic routine like smoking or whatever. Usually blanket over simplified statements about large groups of people are very wrong.
The best advice is lower your androgens, and keep them low. Take propecia and whatever AAs you can or accept MPB. Pretty simple really because nothing else works

Parker317
09-07-2016, 04:39 PM
So does anyone have any updates on this post? Has anyone had success with his recommendations?

Cabeceira
09-07-2016, 05:13 PM
I don't think so.. totally dis agree

DD1
09-09-2016, 06:40 AM
Platelet Rich Plasma: These process was followed a lot as in these as for hair re-growth, PRP is definitely very effective therapy but not for everyone. PRP uses the platelet from blood which is rich in plasma and after that injected back at the area where treatment is required, the cells adopts a regenerative growth which results into hair growth in a natural manner.

FUT (Follicular Unit Transplantation): It mainly deals with the follicles i.e. the way in which follicles are extracted. In FUT a complete layer of follicle called stripe will be extracted usually from the back of the head. The follicles extracted are than placed in area where hair is less, so that it can grow there.

FUE (Follicular Unit Extraction): FUE can be termed as smaller version of FUT with more benefits. In FUE instead of a complete strip of the scalp individual follicular units are extracted directly from the scalp and planted to the bald area.

These above methods are the latest and most used methods currently for hair transplant , which of these methods is the*best hair transplant*procedure goes, it really depends on needs of the patient. FUT will create large scars on the back of your head then FUE might be the right choice for you or if you have very tight skin on scalp then also FUE is better

PRP doensn't work.

Jedgreen
09-10-2016, 09:48 AM
All of the try diet, exercise, sleep, cleaner air, shower filters... are basically the equivalent of saying you have no idea what causes MPB at all. I mean your not even saying anything really. Yes try to be more perfect in all aspects of your life and maybe your hair will regrow. Thanks for the tip. That seems to work out well for the majority of balding men out there as if all men follow some generic routine like smoking or whatever. Usually blanket over simplified statements about large groups of people are very wrong.
The best advice is lower your androgens, and keep them low. Take propecia and whatever AAs you can or accept MPB. Pretty simple really because nothing else works

You read what I said, but you did not understand it.