View Full Version : Giving away Herbal Hair Growth Tonic

04-22-2010, 01:54 AM
Hi all,

My family has had a recipe for a herbal hair growth tonic for years & I wish to give it away to people who are interested in using it.

I'll be honest, my aim is to eventually market this but I need word-of-mouth recommendations so people know that it works. If anyone is interested in having me send it to them (it's free) you can email me at ************@yahoo.com or just post a reply here. It'll be faster to contact me thru email though.

All I ask is that you kindly take before & after photos to show that its working. And maybe give some details of yourself such as age, sex, type of hair, etc.

For your info, the tonic is applied on the head regularly and no consumption is needed. There are no drugs involved in making it & everything is natural.

So far it works for everyone who has tried it, even for 50+ year olds. Just apply it regularly & hair will grow back. The most important thing is, the growth has been permanent so far. So you don't need to continue using it after its worked.

Other than the above info I don't have much data on the thing as no one in my family has ever thought of making it for sale. We never took any before & after photos, documented how long it takes to work, etc. It was just sort of a home-made remedy thing.

Just so you know, it'll take a few months for me to make the tonic so please be patient. I need to gather the herbs & the whole process, etc just takes a lot of time.

In the future I hope to be able to patent it (is this even possible for a herbal tonic? If anyone knows please let me know) & market it to the public.

Thanks and remember to email me if you're interested.

Fixed by 35
04-22-2010, 04:19 AM
If it's herbal, just list the ingredients and we can make it ourselves.

04-22-2010, 05:13 AM
lol Fixed,

If he gives out the ingredients he won't be able to really keep it a secret.

This really does sound way too good to be true. Though I hope it works lol

Fixed by 35
04-22-2010, 05:22 AM
You don't think this joker is for real do you? This is a blatant trawling effort to obtain your contact details!

Have you got any idea how many ingredients have been cited as reversing hair loss? Some have even reached the patent stage and apart from finasteride, dutasteride, minoxidil and ketoconazole nothing has been found that works.

Applying a topical on the scalp will almost certainly never reverse baldness. It's genetic, and the cure is going to be a hell of a lot more invasive than that.

That's why these head shavers on this website need toughening up! The cure is going to involve at least needles if not knives and it's probably going to hurt! There will probably be undesirable side effects. It's going to be one of those 'no pain, no gain' moments.

Gunk like this isn't going to work.

04-22-2010, 07:00 AM
The price is right so I will give it a try and respond to its findings...

Fixed by 35
04-22-2010, 08:00 AM
The price could be identity theft. This guy will even get the address to your house when you ask for delivery.

Believe me, this is NOT worth the risk!

04-22-2010, 08:04 AM
I totally agree.

I would never just give out my details, no way man. Especially not where I live.

I don't believe in topicals either. Although I do hope this works.

But I do thing its a joke.

Fixed by 35
04-22-2010, 08:05 AM
I shall be reporting this poster to the admin for review.

04-22-2010, 08:10 AM
Kinda funny how the world works, try to give something away for free & get called a joker. I bet if I set up a website & actually tried to sell this I would get a better response.

I'm not looking for any contact details. How many contacts can I get from here? 10? 20? What could I hope to achieve with that? I would be better off mass-emailing everyone with a nigerian scam to get contact details.

Anyway, I apologize to all of you if we got off on the wrong foot. I don't need your contact details but at least give me an email if you're interested so that we can communicate. No need to give me your telephone number, social security number, etc. I don't want any of that.

I agree though, this does sound too good to be true right? But what have you all got to lose? I'm not asking for any money and it doesn't have any side effects. I'm even using my own time & money to make it & send it right to your door step. If you're afraid I might know where you live, then kindly give me an office address or even a P.O. box.

I'm not even asking any of you to believe that this will work. Just try it & see for yourselves.

Also, it works for both men & women so ladies are invited to come & try. I didn't post this in the women's forum because I was afraid I'd be given a warning for double-posting. Will I?

If any of you have concerns about why I'm doing this kindly let me know & I'll try my best to explain to you. But please don't ask me any scientific questions, how it works, etc because I really don't know. I'm not a college graduate and I don't know much about science.


p/s: edgarvey, would you like to try it? How do I email you? Seems the forum blocked out my email address. It's herbal[dot]hair[at]yahoo[dot]com

04-22-2010, 08:15 AM
I agree with the fact that you can get contact details much easier if you wanted to spam us and so on.

But you must realize many of the people on this forum have been scammed more than once in their lifetime. I am sure if you can provide more details about yourself then people might be willing to trust you more. You also say that it is going to take months to make and already you want signups. That is a bit weird. Also, why not do this locally?

If you are trying to help, thanks.

But you have to understand how this looks from our point of view.

04-22-2010, 08:16 AM
Wow, what a coincidence. I reply to this thread stating that I do not need telephone numbers & home addresses only to find that I'm accused of identity theft.

Fixed by 35
04-22-2010, 08:20 AM
Okay, I'll give you some of my time. First of all, my normal reactions:

Kinda funny how the world works, try to give something away for free & get called a joker. I bet if I set up a website & actually tried to sell this I would get a better response.

No, you'd probably get sued for having a product that doesn't work and hasn't passed any safety trials. Believe me, doubt is better than a law suit!

I'm not looking for any contact details. How many contacts can I get from here? 10? 20? What could I hope to achieve with that? I would be better off mass-emailing everyone with a nigerian scam to get contact details.

Yes, but you wouldn't just be getting contacts. To do what you propose to do you will have real names and addresses. Once you've got that it's easy to get a date of birth. Ideal for identity theft.

Okay, so let's say we give you the benefit of the doubt. You are going about this all wrong.

How do you plan to make this product? From your kitchen?

Have you really got no balding friends you can try this on first?

Have you made any attempt to team up with a scientist who can help you out? If not, why not?

Are you seriously proposing to release home made remedies with no health and safety checks in place? If you have considered this, what do you propose to do?

If this stuff works, shouldn't you apply for a patent? Patent lawyers don't need to be expensive, especially if the stuff works.

04-22-2010, 08:20 AM
nevermind.... =\

04-22-2010, 08:26 AM
Thanks for the good questions KeepTheHair! I really don't know what people are thinking so I need you all to ask questions/concerns like these so that I can answer them.

Ok, first of all, this is going to take months to make so why do I want signups? This is because if nobody wants them then I waste a LOT of time, effort & money in making them. It is really expensive to make. So I'd rather make sure people want them first before I make them.

Secondly, why not do this locally? This is because it is too expensive to be sold locally. I'm from South-East Asia and to sell this would be above the mass-market's ability to pay. To turn a profit I would have to sell at a few hundred USD. Furthermore, no one wants to pay for a home remedy here. They would rather be scammed by some device or pills from ebay. Don't ask me why, it's just the mentality that anything that isn't made in a factory by a company is bound to be useless.

Also, I understand your need to be cautious with your personal info on the net. I too detest giving out my personal info that's why I never asked for your phone number, home address, etc. In fact, you don't even have to give me your name, just your initials will do. What is important would be your age, sex, type of hair, etc though, I hope you all will understand that I need these info as it is important to me if I were to document data on the tonic. I would not even ask you for it if it wasn't important.

Any other concerns? I'll try my best to explain :)

Fixed by 35
04-22-2010, 08:32 AM
Secondly, why not do this locally? This is because it is too expensive to be sold locally. I'm from South-East Asia and to sell this would be above the mass-market's ability to pay. To turn a profit I would have to sell at a few hundred USD.

BINGO! A few minutes ago this guy was going to give this stuff away free, now he's saying he won't do it locally because South East Asians can't afford it.

Scammers always break down under interrogation.

04-22-2010, 08:35 AM
Yeah that answer pretty much doesn't make any sense.

04-22-2010, 08:39 AM
Fixed by 35.. very good questions, thanks.

Why would I get sued if it doesn't work? I'm not even charging anything for it.

Can you tell me how do I go about the safety trials?

I don't need real names & addresses. Anyway names can easily be googled :) As for your address, yes I understand your concern so kindly give me an office address, p.o. box, or better yet c/o at your local post office.

Yes actually I do plan to make this in my house. All this while it has been made in my home (although not the kitchen).

I don't want any of my balding friends (although I do not have many) to know I have this.

Let me give you a scenario, let's say I give it to my friends & it works. Then they tell their family members & close relatives about this & they come & ask it from me. What am I supposed to do then? I can't very well charge them for it or I would seem rude. I could MAYBE ask them for compensation but then at the most they would only pay me my cost or even less, I would have lost a lot of time & effort in making the tonics.

Not only that, they would ask me how to make it, etc.. and I cannot decline from telling them again for fear of being rude. So I lose my family secret without making a single cent.

I honestly never thought about a scientist. This is a secret remedy so I never thought of revealing to anyone else its ingredients. If I looked for a scientist I would definitely have to reveal it to him.

Kindly let me know how to go thru the health & safety checks. I never knew that home-made remedies required them. As far as I know, people have been using honey, aloe vera, etc as remedies for ages & I don't think I've ever heard of them going thru these checks.

Yes, I did ask about patents in my first post but I never got a reply.

04-22-2010, 08:40 AM
If it sounds too good to be true then it is to good to be true. If this guy had the cure for hair loss he wouldn't be pandering to a message forum. And NOTHNG is free in this world, donít let this person fool you!

04-22-2010, 08:42 AM
OMG.. You guys are really paranoid! Kindly read my first post.. I want to SELL this in the future. I'm giving it away for free NOW only because I need people to see for themselves that it works.

I'm not giving it away free forever! OMG... kindly read before replying..

04-22-2010, 08:43 AM


You have to start answering the questions logically if you plan on convincing us dude. Seriously.

04-22-2010, 08:45 AM
Winston.. who should I be pandering to then? I really don't know what to do & yes I'm beginning to think a message forum is the wrong place.

Even after I've explained the reason why I'm giving it away for free people still won't believe me. Have you ever been given freebies/eats at the supermarket? You didn't have to pay for them, & they were not a scam right?

04-22-2010, 08:48 AM
Seriously, I am answering the questions logically. I know it sounds too good to be true. But if I were a scammer, would I leave so many loopholes in my answers that you could easily spot me to be a scammer?

And no they wouldn't pay thousands for it & not even think about the costs. Over here hair is not as important as you think. That's why I can't sell it here. But thanks for the tip, now I know that once I get my tonic out in the future I can charge thousands & not hundreds.

04-22-2010, 08:52 AM
You can charge tens of thousands...

Dude just listen to me if your legit:

Make this formula. Use it on a good bald friend of yours. If it works, then have him spread the word that you could make it for someone else. Probably for a few hundred dollars or so, so it is worth your time.

Don't tell me it will be hard to find someone. IT WONT BE.

Then just keep going. Once you are very sure it works. Get it on the market somehow.

We don't MEAN to be rude. YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND that the people on this forum have already been scammed. Scams have been thrown in our faces daily then you come say you have some natural cure? It makes very little sense man.

Good luck to you if your legit. And you know what if your not.

04-22-2010, 08:56 AM
How may months of free product do you plan of giving away. Will it be a 1 month supply, a six month supply or an endless supply? How long does it take to see results? Real hair loss products take a least three months to see anything. How will people receive your tonic if they don't have to provide a mailing address?

04-22-2010, 08:59 AM
I have an idea. Make some of this stuff and then come back here. Provide photos of yourself and this product. Give out some of your details so people feel more comfy and then make the offer again.

04-22-2010, 09:32 AM
KeepTheHair.. thanks for your suggestion on using it on my friend but I've already explained why I prefer not to. Kindly read my previous replies.

Yes, the people on this forum have been scammed. Of their money right? So what am I trying to scam? Money? No this is free. Your identity? No I do not need your home address or even your name for that matter.

Yes, I would love to provide photos of myself but I'm not bald :) And yes, I do regret that I did not take photos of my family members who used it.

And just to prove that I'm not a scammer, I could have easily taken some photos from the internet & passed it off as my own to pacify you, but I didnt :)

And also, I could have easily made up details of myself if I were a real scammer but I didn't :)

Maybe this is why a lot here get scammed, because just some photos & some details which could be easily gathered from the internet would be enough to convince you all that I'm the real deal.

Winston, very good questions. I only plan on giving it to a few people, maybe 10 at the most? Or less? It will be a 6 month supply because I want to be sure that it works. It'll work in less than that but I'm giving more just to be sure. That's why I need to document this so I can tell people how long it takes to work. And that's why I need info such as sex, age, type of hair because it would probably take different periods for different people.

As I've stated previously, people can receive the tonic by giving me an office address, a P.O. box, c/o somewhere, or even a friend's house. I don't really know much about identity theft but I don't think I can do it if you give me those addresses right? :)

Pheww...that was a lot of explaining to do.

If all of you really don't feel comfortable with this then there's no need to try this tonic of mine ok? I'm not putting a gun to anyone's head. And anyway, if you're not comfortable then I doubt you'd gather the info & take the photos I need anyway. When it works for you you'd probably just laugh at me for giving it away for free.

If any of you really want to try this with an open heart then just let me know. If you think about it, it's not actually free by the way, I'm requesting you to take photos & document the info such as how long it took for it to work, etc. But I guess that's a small hardship to pay for growing back hair right?

04-22-2010, 09:42 AM
Dude, photos would not be enough at all. It would be like 1%. It might however be enough to find out that you are a fraud. nothing but results or words from others will convince me here. NOTHING.

I dont know what you are trying to do here because it wont work.

04-22-2010, 09:54 AM
KeepTheHair... exactly!! Nothing but results or words from others will convince you or anyone else out there! This is exactly why I'm doing this! I'm trying to get those results & words from others which I already said so in my very first post that this is what I'm setting out to do.

You don't know what I'm trying to do here because you're trying so hard to prove & believe that I'm a scammer but it just doesn't make sense right? Because you can't think of a way that I can scam you. And I'll tell you why.. it's because I'm NOT scamming you.

The only thing I want are the results & words. And yes, you are right, I don't think what I'm trying to do here will work either. There are just too many skeptics even when I've explained everything.

04-22-2010, 10:55 AM
Well, I can't be one of your puppets anyway. I just started finasteride + rogaine + keto shampoo. Soon I will add 15% minoxidil.

So I would never even know if your product worked for me or not. But I am sure you will find someone. Try locally. That should work. Don't use the internet for this. But if you do find this cure you will make a lot of money. But untill then you wont have much luck on this forums.

04-22-2010, 04:14 PM
The people that frequent this site are very well informed about hair loss and the therapies that stop or slow it down. If you have any ulterior motive in promoting your "herbal cure" I suggest you go about it somewhere else.
Hair loss sufferers are at times willing to try anything that promises hope.
Because of this there are a lot of people who swear that their unproven, mystery remedies work. So I would suggest if you have a cure that is as good as you say it is take it to a large news or media outlet and get some scientific verification that it works. If it's that great I am sure all of us will be shelling out the price you charge for it.

04-22-2010, 06:33 PM
KeepTheHair.. thanks for your honest reply. Yes, you are right that if you are already undergoing other treatments then you would not know if it worked. Btw, I'm not asking you to be a puppet or guinea pig because I already know that it works, I'm just trying to get the photos & words from others to prove it.

And also, please don't ask me to try locally again. I've already explained why it's not advantageous for me to do that.. a few times.

mlao..thanks also for your honest reply.. but please kindly read the postings before trying to accuse me of having "ulterior motives". I think it's already been established here that I have none. In fact, no one can even think of what my ulterior motive can be, because there is none. I will take your advice of going to a large news or media outlet.. although I doubt anything much will come of it because even giving it away free to balding people here doesn't work! What more a multibillion dollar news corporation with other more important things like volcanos on their mind.

On a last note, anyone here would like to give it a try? If you don't wish to reveal yourselves here just drop me an email.

04-22-2010, 06:49 PM
Stop being defensive. The people on this site want nothing more then a cure that works. It's not a issue of it being free but of it working. How does anyone know what's in the formula or what possible side effects it could have. Herbs are not always safe just because they are natural. I also assure that if it works as great as you claim the Today Show will find at least five minutes to let you tell the world.

04-22-2010, 07:02 PM
The reason I bring up the local thing is because you have yet to present a good reason not to do so.

I don't see the problem in trying this locally. Make the thing, give it to a bald guy that trusts you. Bam. You make money if it works.

I don't see the problem, at all.

04-23-2010, 02:35 AM
mlao, stop being offensive. People are throwing accusations at me & asking me to defend myself & yet at the same time asking me not to be defensive. Totally ironic. Think about it.

Yes, you have a good point.. I totally have no scientific proof of how it works, what side effects, etc. All I know is that it does work & there are no side effects. I will prove this once people start using it. And yes, the Today Show will probably give me five minutes.. now to just prove it when no one will try it..

KeepTheHair.. I have already presented very good reasons. If you choose not to believe it or cannot understand it then there's nothing I can do. I won't force you to believe it either. I understand that our cultures are different so you may have a difficult time accepting my reasons. It's ok.. no hard feelings.

To those who genuinely want to give it a try, kindly do NOT wait for me if you have an urgent hair loss problem. The reason is because it will take me a long time to prepare the tonic & I don't want you to delay seeking other forms of treatment just because you are waiting for me. Only try this if you are willing to wait for me to make it..it will take a few months at least.

Also, I realize now that I've been approaching this the wrong way. I come in here telling people I have a herbal tonic that works & that may not be the best approach.

Now just assume that I have a herbal tonic that has worked great for my family in the past and it MIGHT work for you so anyone willing to try it can give it a go.

Does that sound better? This way no one can accuse me of having a product that might not work. I'm just tired of having to defend myself and saying it like this would probably make people more agreeable to the idea.