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k9gatton
10-16-2016, 07:08 PM
Spiro is a better treatment than Progesterone for females, so I'm not going to touch that subject in this thread.

Although this didn't do much for my hairline (twenty new terminal hairs), it did do quite a lot for my vertex area. However, I currently use it on both.

Started January 2016 (.25% Progesterone). In September the amount was doubled to .5%.

Currently I am using a topical formula that contains .5% Progesterone. In "theory", every .1% is equal to one milligram of medication.

Left picture - January 2016.

Right picture - September 2016

k9gatton
10-19-2016, 04:44 AM
My progress pictures. Have pictures of both the vertex and hairline. Took topical
Progesterone after three months. The vertex is filling in.

Currently taking twice the amount of Progesterone (.5% since September 2016).

Pittdawg
10-30-2016, 09:07 AM
Do you apply the cream directly to the scalp only?

k9gatton
10-30-2016, 10:51 AM
Do you apply the cream directly to the scalp only?

Yes. Only on diffuse/or bald areas.

k9gatton
11-05-2016, 03:09 PM
See latest terminal hair regrowth. Taken November 5th, 2016:

scooterboy
11-07-2016, 08:18 AM
See latest terminal hair regrowth. Taken November 5th, 2016:Were are you getting your high dose Progesterone from ?

tomjones1
11-07-2016, 06:18 PM
K9gatton, congrats on your success. I'd like to ask you a few questions if you wouldn't mind?
-You are on a heavy duty proven regimen. What makes you so sure the progesterone is responsible for your success?
-I've been doing a lot of reading on Progesterone and for every one success post I find, I also find three posts (throughout internet) stating how it made things significantly worse. This is very confusing and worrisome.
-Can you please state the specific progesterone .25% product you started off with? Purchase online? I'm considering trying it as you stated you had success on it. I do however fear it will cause problems to my hair as I'm not on any treatments (bad sides before even on reduced fin and minox) therefore do not have that protection that you have. Thanks for your responses!!

k9gatton
11-07-2016, 06:30 PM
K9gatton, congrats on your success. I'd like to ask you a few questions if you wouldn't mind?
-You are on a heavy duty proven regimen. What makes you so sure the progesterone is responsible for your success?
-I've been doing a lot of reading on Progesterone and for every one success post I find, I also find three posts (throughout internet) stating how it made things significantly worse. This is very confusing and worrisome.
-Can you please state the specific progesterone .25% product you started off with? Purchase online? I'm considering trying it as you stated you had success on it. I do however fear it will cause problems to my hair as I'm not on any treatments (bad sides before even on reduced fin and minox) therefore do not have that protection that you have. Thanks for your responses!!

Getting it from https://www.medicalwellnesscenter.com/

If they approve your prescription, you pay for each refill to Murray Avenue Acotherapy. They make all of the concentrated Minoxidil solutions in Pittsburgh, PA.

FYI: You don't have to have a high level of Minoxidil. They actually sell them in different strengths. They are creams. They sell in 12.5%, 15% Minoxidil as well. Also, you can combine it with lower dosages.


This is what I highly recommend, so you won't ruin your hair. Combine it with .1% Hydrocortisone. That is anti inflammatory. Also combine with Finasteride. You probably don't need retinol or any other chemicals for that matter.

Good luck.


Started balding before Progesterone. Also cut my Minoxidil in half. The problem was I thought the liquid Finasteride was doing the work, but it wasn't.

As soon as I used the Progesterone, my hair started regrowing. Also, it doesn't fall out, when it does, it is much less than a "full head" person. I have maybe a few hairs fall out per weak. The hair on top grows faster than my sides or back as well.

k9gatton
11-07-2016, 06:31 PM
Were are you getting your high dose Progesterone from ?


Medical Wellness Center. Online script. You only pay if you're approved. https://www.medicalwellnesscenter.com/

tomjones1
11-07-2016, 06:43 PM
Thanks however I would much prefer to try the progesterone without minoxidil if thats possible? I get the feeling I am out of luck. Minoxidil in the past bloated my face and gave wrinkles and insomnia even at low dose. This sucks.

k9gatton
11-07-2016, 06:58 PM
Thanks however I would much prefer to try the progesterone without minoxidil if thats possible? I get the feeling I am out of luck. Minoxidil in the past bloated my face and gave wrinkles and insomnia even at low dose. This sucks.


Don't know if it is or not. You would have to adjust/talk with a doctor on medicalwellnesscenter.com. Understand what you're saying. It probably is possible, believe it or not. They could answer you. And it's free of charge.

doke
11-09-2016, 04:30 AM
Re people in uk you can get minoxidil mixed with medroxy-progestorone and quite cheap mainly up to 5%minoxidil unless you go to a certain clinic in London where I think its a rip off price.
As im not a shill I do not want to add company names that sell these treatments but I know of 3 that I use in uk that do not require any fees to purchase.

elvispresley
11-09-2016, 04:48 AM
hello k9gatton , im in malaysia do you know where i can buy the progesterone online, can you gaive me the exact name of the topical so that i can search online and at the pharmacy , thank you very much ;)

please also the cost x month or per quantity if you can thx

doke
11-09-2016, 05:51 AM
Jazz have you thought of asking how much compounding a lotion or cream of the Arthritis drug Tofacitinib citrate might cost?

k9gatton
11-09-2016, 04:10 PM
hello k9gatton , im in malaysia do you know where i can buy the progesterone online, can you gaive me the exact name of the topical so that i can search online and at the pharmacy , thank you very much ;)

please also the cost x month or per quantity if you can thx

Get it at https://www.medicalwellnesscenter.com/. Make sure they ship to Malaysia.

You should contact Murray Avenue Acotherapy. That is the ONLY pharmacy they allow to make the product.

Because if they don't ship it, you will be charged for the online evaluation. But you will lose your money
since you cannot order it online.

k9gatton
11-09-2016, 04:57 PM
Re people in uk you can get minoxidil mixed with medroxy-progestorone and quite cheap mainly up to 5%minoxidil unless you go to a certain clinic in London where I think its a rip off price.
As im not a shill I do not want to add company names that sell these treatments but I know of 3 that I use in uk that do not require any fees to purchase.


A friend of mine tried Aprikot-T ? That put him from a Norwood 2.5/3 to a Norwood zero. It has estrogen in it, but it definitely does the trick. He regrew all of his hair. He's in his twenties. It's usually easier for men to grow hair back after they recently lose it.

goldnt
11-12-2016, 09:42 PM
Hey Im clueless when it comes to progesterone so bare with me lol. But im wondering if i can i place this on my head or is it no the same thing? Shame spiro was canceled.

https://www.amazon.com/Source-Naturals-Natural-Progesterone-Cream/dp/B000GFJJHY/ref=sr_1_1_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1479011850&sr=1-1&keywords=progesterone&th=1

k9gatton
11-13-2016, 12:05 PM
Hey Im clueless when it comes to progesterone so bare with me lol. But im wondering if i can i place this on my head or is it no the same thing? Shame spiro was canceled.

https://www.amazon.com/Source-Naturals-Natural-Progesterone-Cream/dp/B000GFJJHY/ref=sr_1_1_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1479011850&sr=1-1&keywords=progesterone&th=1


Wouldn't try this if you're a male. It appears to have a lot higher strength and is designed for women going through menopause.

Would not recommend that product. Would stick to prescribed Progesterone topical treatments, for hair.

goldnt
11-18-2016, 07:50 PM
I decided to go the compounding pharmacy website to see if they sold any products without a script and they do.

I found their progesterone leave in treatment at a strength of 2%.

https://murrayavenueapothecary.vendecommerce.com/hair-loss/products/progesterone-leave-in-treatment

I decided to buy it. Now i'm not sure if its working as I have my hair buzzcut so i cant tell if hair loss has slowed down. But what I do know, is that when DHT is not attaching itself to the androgen receptor of my hair, I don't get those constant burning sensations on my scalp. Those sensations are what indicate me when hair loss is occurring. As it continues the root of my hair becomes inflamed and finally falls out.

So as of now even with the product Ive still been getting those sensations which has me believing its not working or working enough. With that being said i just wanted to let you know about this product I found. I think ill be moving back to RU but premade with KB. Ru certainly worked for me but with problems in the past. I'm a diffuse thinner and so when i had long hair I had to use a lot of Ru to cover my head completely. Unfortunately it had gone systematic and given me gyno. Hopefully this time since my hair is so short i can avoid that situation again.

HTsoon
11-18-2016, 08:48 PM
What are the side effects? Progesterone is a potent 5 alpha reductase inhibitor, I would assume it would have similar side effects as finasteride, currently using minoxidil and ketocanozole with no negative effects, I've also heard of feeling excessively sleepy, any of you guys experience that?

cardib
11-18-2016, 10:42 PM
whats apricot t?

k9gatton
11-19-2016, 03:59 AM
What are the side effects? Progesterone is a potent 5 alpha reductase inhibitor, I would assume it would have similar side effects as finasteride, currently using minoxidil and ketocanozole with no negative effects, I've also heard of feeling excessively sleepy, any of you guys experience that?

Progesterone is a natural hormone men produce, but in much smaller amounts then women do. Haven't had any erection difficulties, which is common for many men in their forties. Would rate myself the same
as other men my age, in that respect.


Progesterone has the opposite effect on the hair than DHT. It keeps it from falling out, and resting. In some ways it is a hair growth stimulant as well, and performs the tasks that Minoxidil does.

Progesterone in women is used to keep the fetus alive. This is true for both female and male fetuses.

Even now, I lose less hair than the average "full head" guy. It's definitely much smaller than a hundred hairs a day.

Haven't had any sleepy side effects, in fact I'm wired with a lot of energy. Sometimes too much energy. That's just genes, not Progesterone.

k9gatton
11-19-2016, 07:06 AM
whats apricot t?

A medication I should have tried in my twenties!! ;)

Saltynuts
12-05-2016, 03:59 PM
LOL Apricot T.... yeah... right....

k9gatton
12-05-2016, 06:56 PM
I decided to go the compounding pharmacy website to see if they sold any products without a script and they do.

I found their progesterone leave in treatment at a strength of 2%.

https://murrayavenueapothecary.vendecommerce.com/hair-loss/products/progesterone-leave-in-treatment

I decided to buy it. Now i'm not sure if its working as I have my hair buzzcut so i cant tell if hair loss has slowed down. But what I do know, is that when DHT is not attaching itself to the androgen receptor of my hair, I don't get those constant burning sensations on my scalp. Those sensations are what indicate me when hair loss is occurring. As it continues the root of my hair becomes inflamed and finally falls out.

So as of now even with the product Ive still been getting those sensations which has me believing its not working or working enough. With that being said i just wanted to let you know about this product I found. I think ill be moving back to RU but premade with KB. Ru certainly worked for me but with problems in the past. I'm a diffuse thinner and so when i had long hair I had to use a lot of Ru to cover my head completely. Unfortunately it had gone systematic and given me gyno. Hopefully this time since my hair is so short i can avoid that situation again.

Good to hear from, my friend. Heard you got a transplant?

Tried their biotin, and I really didn't have any success (Murray's biotin solution, not prescribed by MedicalWellnessCenter).

After that, I kind of lost faith in the non prescribed medications. I'm just sticking to prescriptions.

I'm trying to grow my hair out this year. Might even grow it long again.

k9gatton
12-05-2016, 06:57 PM
LOL Apricot T.... yeah... right....

There is an estrogen topical solution. A friend of mine used it. He regrew almost ninety
percent of his hair. He also had lots of success.

The problem is I can't order it from the US. Otherwise, I would be using that treatment as well.

k9gatton
12-05-2016, 06:59 PM
What are the side effects? Progesterone is a potent 5 alpha reductase inhibitor, I would assume it would have similar side effects as finasteride, currently using minoxidil and ketocanozole with no negative effects, I've also heard of feeling excessively sleepy, any of you guys experience that?


There really isn't any side effects that I've had. Progesterone is a growth stimulator and an anti DHT medication.

Women produce a lot more than men. It's been studied in women, and found that spiro is more successful in women. However, Progesterone alone did have success in women. It was done in an international government study.

It hasn't been studied in men, however. Keep in mind it can raise estrogen levels. That is a risk that
comes with taking it.

doke
12-06-2016, 04:00 AM
Re medroxyprogestorone its been added to minoxidil in 0.25% for many years and I used it in the late 80s and 90s and in 4 and 5% minoxidil from well known uk clinics and today is still sold and for me it helped quite a bit in them days.
When I got fed up applying it I hair slowly started to thin again I noticed how much it helped.
Now I did get days when sometimes I got really tired about 12 miday I did think it was due to getting up at 6 am for work but im not so sure.
Anyway its good for if you still have hair but on the front where I had receaded and was shiny bald it did not do anything so I did an experiment where I left using for a month or two and noticed I was getting bad thinning so I returned to using the 4% minoxidil mix and in two weeks my hair was thickening up again.
What I did do was use twice a day and add more then 1ml on the bad front and crown loss until I got the result I was happy with.
But now im in my late 50s leaving it so long without using due to being lazy to apply perhaps I would have kept more hair.
I am back on proscar I take half on Monday, Wed And Friday and after shedding a lot in the drain started to slow the loss down again.
So I wonder is it worth going back on the minox 5% with progest in combo with proscar or using minox foam with a natural progesterone cream the only thing I like about the mix of minox contained in a lotion its good to only apply in one go.
Anyone who may have tried different clinics 5% mix may notice if applying say 1.5mls that your scalp when dried is white and I did contact the supplier and he said that this does happen so that's a pain to be honest.

Saltynuts
12-06-2016, 10:22 AM
There is an estrogen topical solution. A friend of mine used it. He regrew almost ninety
percent of his hair. He also had lots of success.

The problem is I can't order it from the US. Otherwise, I would be using that treatment as well.


Oh yea? 90%? Might you point me to said topical solution?

scooterboy
12-06-2016, 10:52 AM
He got 90% of his hair back . What's the product ?

k9gatton
12-06-2016, 04:39 PM
Aprikat T, I believe? They don't sell it in the US. He lives in the UK. He gets
it by script there. I can't find any links to it.

It's a topical estrogen based substance. I never used it. But he definitely
got good results.

Jazz1
12-07-2016, 04:54 PM
Check my threads I found Susan when Dr Klein passed away to help all the forum members. I'm glad progesteone works as I have this in my mixture, never thought it would do much but your pictures sure prove:cool:.

funkville
12-07-2016, 06:33 PM
Re people in uk you can get minoxidil mixed with medroxy-progestorone and quite cheap mainly up to 5%minoxidil unless you go to a certain clinic in London where I think its a rip off price.
As im not a shill I do not want to add company names that sell these treatments but I know of 3 that I use in uk that do not require any fees to purchase.

hey doke im from the uk also. where do you know to get things things mixed. ive been on 12.5% belgravia but its a rip off like you said. pm if you dont want to say cheers

doke
12-08-2016, 04:00 AM
Hi the clinics I have used only do the 5% with progest not the 12.5%.

funkville
12-09-2016, 01:59 PM
Hi the clinics I have used only do the 5% with progest not the 12.5%.

thats fine where is it based? in based in london

doke
12-10-2016, 11:52 AM
thats fine where is it based? in based in london

Hi Funks there is the Wimpole clinic in londow that sells 5% minoxidil with medroxyprogestorone for 120ml bottle i think its 55 link www.wimpoleclinic.com
There is the uk norton clinic just search for that they i think are not in london, there is a chemist in uk at upper breeding chemist that actually makes minoxidil for many clinics in uk i have a tell number and the Drs name is Dr Alan Robinson and you can tel him and tell him you already use minox with progest and you will need to ask for him phone number at local uk rate is 0845 260 3999 the latter is where i buy mine cuts out the middle man.
You i think can buy it in two months supply which is 120mls but its cheaper from him if you buy 6 months which you can store in the fridge.
Buy the way guys i have known Dr Robinson chemist many yrs as i got to find him from bio trans jersey which in the 80s and 90s was owned by uk transfom clinic group.
I have no connection with any of these clinics so is up to you who you choose.

doke
12-10-2016, 11:55 AM
Just to add that because some clinics you will have to pay a consultation fee and visit them thats why i use Dr Robinson.
So make sure you can place order over the phone or internet.

funkville
12-14-2016, 03:39 PM
Hi Funks there is the Wimpole clinic in londow that sells 5% minoxidil with medroxyprogestorone for 120ml bottle i think its 55 link www.wimpoleclinic.com
There is the uk norton clinic just search for that they i think are not in london, there is a chemist in uk at upper breeding chemist that actually makes minoxidil for many clinics in uk i have a tell number and the Drs name is Dr Alan Robinson and you can tel him and tell him you already use minox with progest and you will need to ask for him phone number at local uk rate is 0845 260 3999 the latter is where i buy mine cuts out the middle man.
You i think can buy it in two months supply which is 120mls but its cheaper from him if you buy 6 months which you can store in the fridge.
Buy the way guys i have known Dr Robinson chemist many yrs as i got to find him from bio trans jersey which in the 80s and 90s was owned by uk transfom clinic group.
I have no connection with any of these clinics so is up to you who you choose.

Thanks doke. I'm trying to find the most cost effective product. Ive used Susan's before as jazz has helped me loads (the guy is a legend). The first couple months my hair grew like crazy then it stopped working. Went back to belgravia on the 12.5% cream and now I'm just wanting the most cost effective. As the pound is so weak getting a script, 3 bottles of minoxidil mix and progesterone leave in and custom tax. It is more expensive than belgravia where I play 550 for the year.

funkville
12-20-2016, 03:45 PM
My progress pictures. Have pictures of both the vertex and hairline. Took topical
Progesterone after three months. The vertex is filling in.

Currently taking twice the amount of Progesterone (.5% since September 2016).

Hey k9gatton. I'm looking to order from Susan (I've used her before) but I wanted to know how big is the bottle and how long does it last? I take it you need a script also. The uk currency is so low that if I got a minoxidil mix, topical progesterone, new year script,shipping and custom tax it costs more than belgravia in U.K. Which they have a 8% which has progesterone and caffeine in.

I'm going for a check up tomo. Jazz was saying carry on with regaine liquid as I'm cing ok/good results and get progesterone from Susan.

I also wanted to ask how it dries? Liquid regaine can some time leave my hair greasy (I have Afro Caribbean hair)

Do u apply minoxidil then cream or other way around?

k9gatton
12-20-2016, 07:57 PM
Hi the clinics I have used only do the 5% with progest not the 12.5%.

Mine is only .5%.

The dosage I take is a gram. So for every .1%, the equivalent is one milligram.

k9gatton
12-20-2016, 08:00 PM
Hey k9gatton. I'm looking to order from Susan (I've used her before) but I wanted to know how big is the bottle and how long does it last? I take it you need a script also. The uk currency is so low that if I got a minoxidil mix, topical progesterone, new year script,shipping and custom tax it costs more than belgravia in U.K. Which they have a 8% which has progesterone and caffeine in.

I'm going for a check up tomo. Jazz was saying carry on with regaine liquid as I'm cing ok/good results and get progesterone from Susan.

I also wanted to ask how it dries? Liquid regaine can some time leave my hair greasy (I have Afro Caribbean hair)

Do u apply minoxidil then cream or other way around?

It does dry and leave white powder around the scalp. My hair density is very good now. For that reason it really
doesn't show (and I put it all over my forehead, and vertex as well).

I supplement it with 5% Foam (regular Minoxidil).

funkville
12-21-2016, 01:54 AM
Mine is only .5%.

The dosage I take is a gram. So for every .1%, the equivalent is one milligram.

So it's in the blue bottle with the pump which is 6 pumps then? How long does it take to dry?

k9gatton
12-21-2016, 06:51 PM
So it's in the blue bottle with the pump which is 6 pumps then? How long does it take to dry?

It's a cream. The prescribed dosage is one gram over bald areas. (The size of a pea,
literally on the script!). That is probably the size of one gram.

It has to be measured by eye. (It's thick, it won't drip. It used to in cold weather, but
recently they managed to overcome that problem). Just let it thaw.

My mailman leaves everything unattended in his truck. Told him this, and it was 25 Farenheit.

(He still left it in, the term Postal is known as CRAZY in the US, now I know why!!!). He was
walking around delivering it door to door.

funkville
12-22-2016, 08:43 AM
It's a cream. The prescribed dosage is one gram over bald areas. (The size of a pea,
literally on the script!). That is probably the size of one gram.

It has to be measured by eye. (It's thick, it won't drip. It used to in cold weather, but
recently they managed to overcome that problem). Just let it thaw.

My mailman leaves everything unattended in his truck. Told him this, and it was 25 Farenheit.

(He still left it in, the term Postal is known as CRAZY in the US, now I know why!!!). He was
walking around delivering it door to door.

Oh so it's like using retin a cream. Ok thanks for that.

I went to the belgraiva Clinic in London yesterday for a check up and get the 8% minoxidil with mpg and caffeine. They told me Ghe can't recommend it to me as I get migraine. Silly as I've used it before. I'm going to get Susan to do me a formula.

I'll get the cream of progesterone and c if I react. If not after my three bottles are done I'll add it in to my minox mix. Just makes applying so much easier.

Something which is interesting. It seems at this point I respond to liquid better than cream.

I actually noticed that with my bottles susan made me. Thanks for heads up.

funkville
12-22-2016, 03:54 PM
i just got off phone to susan and she said the leave in treatment is the .5%
https://murrayavenueapothecary.vendecommerce.com/cart

this is what you use right? if not could you sedn me a pic. i just renewed my script with her.

k9gatton
12-23-2016, 05:00 PM
i just got off phone to susan and she said the leave in treatment is the .5%
https://murrayavenueapothecary.vendecommerce.com/cart

this is what you use right? if not could you sedn me a pic. i just renewed my script with her.

I use a tube with thirty percent in it. The thirty percent is a cream. If that bothers you, you probably shouldn't
get a high concentrated amount.

Mine just comes in a tube.

funkville
12-23-2016, 05:37 PM
I use a tube with thirty percent in it. The thirty percent is a cream. If that bothers you, you probably shouldn't
get a high concentrated amount.

Mine just comes in a tube.


I mean the progesterone topical. Is it the leave in or is it added to your minox cream. Maybe I misunderstood

k9gatton
12-24-2016, 11:05 AM
I mean the progesterone topical. Is it the leave in or is it added to your minox cream. Maybe I misunderstood

The Progesterone is mixed with the Minoxidil, in the same tube.

As long as you get the doctor prescribed Progesterone, it will
be in there.

I used the non doctor prescribed Biotin liquid. It did nothing for my hair.

funkville
12-24-2016, 11:11 AM
The Progesterone is mixed with the Minoxidil, in the same tube.

As long as you get the doctor prescribed Progesterone, it will
be in there.

I used the non doctor prescribed Biotin liquid. It did nothing for my hair.
I had a silly moment there I get you yes progesterone in minoxidil works great. I've got in in my mix susan is doing for me. Ideally I wanted to have it in my am and pm minoxidil but only my lotion will have it in. I can confirm that progesterone makes your hair grow like crazy. I had it in my 8% liquid from belgravia. It is the synthetic version.

k9gatton
12-24-2016, 11:13 AM
I had a silly moment there I get you yes progesterone in minoxidil works great. I've got in in my mix susan is doing for me. Ideally I wanted to have it in my am and pm minoxidil but only my lotion will have it in. I can confirm that progesterone makes your hair grow like crazy. I had it in my 8% liquid from belgravia. It is the synthetic version.

Your hair grows faster with it as well? I'm glad I'm not crazy.

My "DHT sensitive" hair actually grows twice as fast as my side/back hair with Progesterone.

I thought it was the thirty percent Minoxidil. But if it's doing the same for you
with eight it must be the Progesterone.

funkville
12-24-2016, 11:21 AM
Your hair grows faster with it as well? I'm glad I'm not crazy.

My "DHT sensitive" hair actually grows twice as fast as my side/back hair with Progesterone.

I thought it was the thirty percent Minoxidil. But if it's doing the same for you
with eight it must be the Progesterone.


Your not going crazy I think it's a combo of high minoxidil me progesterone. When I had it I grew a high top. I came off thinking it was cause if my facial sides only to realise like y said it's the other ingredients. i think my limit of minoxidil is 5-8 in one serving.

funkville
12-28-2016, 03:09 AM
Hi Funks there is the Wimpole clinic in londow that sells 5% minoxidil with medroxyprogestorone for 120ml bottle i think its 55 link www.wimpoleclinic.com
There is the uk norton clinic just search for that they i think are not in london, there is a chemist in uk at upper breeding chemist that actually makes minoxidil for many clinics in uk i have a tell number and the Drs name is Dr Alan Robinson and you can tel him and tell him you already use minox with progest and you will need to ask for him phone number at local uk rate is 0845 260 3999 the latter is where i buy mine cuts out the middle man.
You i think can buy it in two months supply which is 120mls but its cheaper from him if you buy 6 months which you can store in the fridge.
Buy the way guys i have known Dr Robinson chemist many yrs as i got to find him from bio trans jersey which in the 80s and 90s was owned by uk transfom clinic group.
I have no connection with any of these clinics so is up to you who you choose.


Hi doke. I rang this morning and spoke to a guy called Steve.

Sadly dr Robinson is not in a good state I was informed. He told me I would have to get a private prescription to get there Minox with mpg. He asked how I was recommended by them where I just gave your user name which doesn't help hahaha. He informed me that it's 99 for 3 bottle with postage.

Guess this is a dead end as they kept suggesting me to get the minox from where I used to buy it from.

The other site you suggested wimpoleclinc have the minox (in lotion form) in there shop. it say prescription only but h can't go to checkout and put your payment details in. Is dr Robinson's minox liquid or lotion?

Only want one bottle as that will last 4 months as I will only use it in morning.

doke
12-28-2016, 06:57 AM
Hi its a lotion I have bought minox from Birmingham trichology clinic that has progest in and theres also the Norton clinic uk.

funkville
12-31-2016, 04:06 PM
Hi its a lotion I have bought minox from Birmingham trichology clinic that has progest in and theres also the Norton clinic uk.

Hey doke. Have u ever used the wimpole clinic you sent a link for. I called them as I drive past there clinic in central London but they are out of stock at the moment. Due to be getting more next week. They seemed legit. I would rather used a clinic which is recommended. One thing with wimpole is it categorised as prescription but seems u don't need one.

I presume if dr Robinson is very very ill having a long term relationship with his product may be slim.

I checked they above clinics and they don't have minoxidil with mpg on there site.

funkville
12-31-2016, 04:06 PM
Hi its a lotion I have bought minox from Birmingham trichology clinic that has progest in and theres also the Norton clinic uk.

Hey doke. Have u ever used the wimpole clinic you sent a link for. I called them as I drive past there clinic in central London but they are out of stock at the moment. Due to be getting more next week. They seemed legit. I would rather used a clinic which is recommended. One thing with wimpole is it categorised as prescription but seems u don't need one.

I presume if dr Robinson is very very ill having a long term relationship with his product may be slim.

I checked they above clinics and they don't have minoxidil with mpg on there site.

doke
01-01-2017, 04:25 AM
Hey doke. Have u ever used the wimpole clinic you sent a link for. I called them as I drive past there clinic in central London but they are out of stock at the moment. Due to be getting more next week. They seemed legit. I would rather used a clinic which is recommended. One thing with wimpole is it categorised as prescription but seems u don't need one.

I presume if dr Robinson is very very ill having a long term relationship with his product may be slim.

I checked they above clinics and they don't have minoxidil with mpg on there site.

Hi Funks i could have called steve as he makes the minox for Dr Robinson but you would have to pm me your name.
As to the Dr being unwell i phoned to see how he was but they would not tell me i have known Alan for many years and he made the minox with antiandrogen for many uk clinics so it was a bit cheaper.
I presume that the Dr Robinson is the one you have to go through to order from steve as they make fresh batchs for you order.
He maybe back at some point as he owns the chemist.

doke
01-01-2017, 04:28 AM
It does dry and leave white powder around the scalp. My hair density is very good now. For that reason it really
doesn't show (and I put it all over my forehead, and vertex as well).

I supplement it with 5% Foam (regular Minoxidil).

Hi k9 can you tell me why you do not use a lotion with minox and medroxyprogestorone in mixed from the pharmacy and also what strength of minox do you use and the progest strength as well?

doke
01-01-2017, 04:39 AM
A friend of mine tried Aprikot-T ? That put him from a Norwood 2.5/3 to a Norwood zero. It has estrogen in it, but it definitely does the trick. He regrew all of his hair. He's in his twenties. It's usually easier for men to grow hair back after they recently lose it.


K9 can you ask your friend about the apricot t as i have searched google and only find out about Apricots the fruit that is nothing about an estrogen does it have another name can you still buy it in uk or elsewhere is it better than avixis or pantostin or progestorone?

funkville
01-01-2017, 05:59 AM
Hi Funks i could have called steve as he makes the minox for Dr Robinson but you would have to pm me your name.
As to the Dr being unwell i phoned to see how he was but they would not tell me i have known Alan for many years and he made the minox with antiandrogen for many uk clinics so it was a bit cheaper.
I presume that the Dr Robinson is the one you have to go through to order from steve as they make fresh batchs for you order.
He maybe back at some point as he owns the chemist.

ive tried to find how to pm you but its aol instant messenger and im on mac. is this the only way to pm you?

doke
01-01-2017, 06:07 AM
ive tried to find how to pm you but its aol instant messenger and im on mac. is this the only way to pm you?
if I pm you with my email address will that be ok I will try.
Also found out the product you can buy topical in Europe that k9 mentioned it contains estradiol so im going to combine with a 1% progest gel which they also sell and then with minox foam.

funkville
01-01-2017, 06:16 AM
if I pm you with my email address will that be ok I will try.
Also found out the product you can buy topical in Europe that k9 mentioned it contains estradiol so im going to combine with a 1% progest gel which they also sell and then with minox foam.

send me a pm and lets see if this works. when i click on notifications it says i may not be privileged to some functions. thANKS for help.

on the product k9 was talking about i would have to look it up. i know i didnt get any sides from progesterone but i did from fin so i will hve to look up ingredients

doke
01-01-2017, 06:22 AM
Hi I tried to find a pm for you but its not there does anyone know if the site has a problem with contact.

k9gatton
01-01-2017, 07:27 AM
send me a pm and lets see if this works. when i click on notifications it says i may not be privileged to some functions. thANKS for help.

on the product k9 was talking about i would have to look it up. i know i didnt get any sides from progesterone but i did from fin so i will hve to look up ingredients



The Finasteride is optional. The Progesterone is to. The only option for Progesterone is .25%.


I've been using them for years now. That's why they allowed me to raise the Progesterone dosage
to .5%. Don't know if they do that normally though.


The website has a checkbox with hard coded amounts (non adjustable amounts). You just check
what you want.

k9gatton
01-01-2017, 07:32 AM
Hi I tried to find a pm for you but its not there does anyone know if the site has a problem with contact.


Have the same issue with my user id.

funkville
01-01-2017, 11:55 AM
Hi I tried to find a pm for you but its not there does anyone know if the site has a problem with contact.

Do u think you can give Steve a call and ask if he'll do it for me. Maybe if you give my username to him then when I call he will know who I am. Worth a try. It's weird there is no pm on here.

Also do u know the amount of progesterone they use?

funkville
01-04-2017, 03:20 PM
Any luck doke? My bottle of regaine is on it's last pumps so will need to order this week

Reester
01-12-2017, 06:56 AM
K9gatton, where can I get progesterone?

Mickael
01-13-2017, 10:22 PM
Funny to see actually someone trying progesterone. I have been saying for years on hair loss forums that progesterone is something that is actually helping hair loss.

Finasteride is considered a progestin (synthetic progesterone). The problem is that finasteride will steal the 5-alpha from progesterone and blocks the production of useful hormones while causing all sort of side effects. Progesterone is safer since you actually continue to produce those useful hormones while on it, it's not side effects free however.

Topical anti-androgens are effective because only the DHT produced locally has an effect on the hair. Spiro is not effective however because blocking the receptor doesn't last long enough to benefit from it. Progestins like fina/duta/proges are far more powerful since one dose will stop the productions of DHT for days, this is in the hundreds of % more effective than what spiro can actually do (including RU).

Jazz1
01-14-2017, 07:51 AM
Funny to see actually someone trying progesterone. I have been saying for years on hair loss forums that progesterone is something that is actually helping hair loss.

Finasteride is considered a progestin (synthetic progesterone). The problem is that finasteride will steal the 5-alpha from progesterone and blocks the production of useful hormones while causing all sort of side effects. Progesterone is safer since you actually continue to produce those useful hormones while on it, it's not side effects free however.

Topical anti-androgens are effective because only the DHT produced locally has an effect on the hair. Spiro is not effective however because blocking the receptor doesn't last long enough to benefit from it. Progestins like fina/duta/proges are far more powerful since one dose will stop the productions of DHT for days, this is in the hundreds of % more effective than what spiro can actually do (including RU).


Awesome information, I found spiro did not do much for me, S5 cream. I use the mixture additive lotion, however I might add 5% spiro on my next order. I also heard Glutathione topical is an awesome anti oxidant, I need to start using this mixture again.

Jazz1
01-14-2017, 07:52 AM
Funny to see actually someone trying progesterone. I have been saying for years on hair loss forums that progesterone is something that is actually helping hair loss.

Finasteride is considered a progestin (synthetic progesterone). The problem is that finasteride will steal the 5-alpha from progesterone and blocks the production of useful hormones while causing all sort of side effects. Progesterone is safer since you actually continue to produce those useful hormones while on it, it's not side effects free however.

Topical anti-androgens are effective because only the DHT produced locally has an effect on the hair. Spiro is not effective however because blocking the receptor doesn't last long enough to benefit from it. Progestins like fina/duta/proges are far more powerful since one dose will stop the productions of DHT for days, this is in the hundreds of % more effective than what spiro can actually do (including RU).


Awesome information, I found spiro did not do much for me, S5 cream. I use the mixture additive lotion, however I might add 5% spiro on my next order. I also heard Glutathione topical is an awesome anti oxidant, I need to start using this mixture again.