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icebald
09-17-2016, 02:24 PM
Hello,

im 25 years old male and i suffer from hairloss since age 20.My father is norwood 5 at age 51,his father had full head of hair.My grandfather at mother side is norwood 3-4 at age 75,my uncle has full head of hair,my brother is norwood 2 at age 28.Im pretty sure that i will reach norwood 6,soon yet at so young age.So i seriously thinking to having a HT,fue or something like that.My hairloss is now kinda stabilized and i dont lose hair anymore for like 1 year.Here are some pictures of my scalp:

Artista
09-17-2016, 04:25 PM
Hello Icebald !

First of all, DO NOT ALLOW yourself to become worried and depressed over this or anything else in life !
Worry and stress WILL cause more problems to your hairline!!
That is a fact!!
Be accepting of how things are for right now BECAUSE you can improve your hair and also
get the proper help needed.
Consider seeing a doctor about using Finasteride. Also, the over-the-counter Minoxidil does help!!
Also, start using another over-the-counter vitamin of the B complex, Biotin !
Biotin has been around for a long time and it does help men and women's hair along with other parts of ones body! (its minor but does help)
I suggest all of that because I have been on it for a long time now.
I have positive ongoing results by it all.
Of course I did have some grafts done on Nov. 2015.
(I was a part of a phase testing out in NYC and thats why I was given 500+grafts)
Have a good weekend!!

icebald
09-18-2016, 01:26 AM
Thank you!

Im a bit afraid of propecia, i would start minox soon.Its not too late to see improvement with these treatments? Will minox thicken up my crown? Now im using nizoral 1% nothing else,oh and fish capsules but that dont help much i think.

Artista
09-18-2016, 08:40 AM
Good to hear from you Icebald!

If you dont want to try using Finasteride, that is OK.
Get on Minoxidil and consider also using Biotin too.
Minoxidil does help people's hair at different percentages for everyone.
I think that it has helped my crown area as well but I dont know for sure.
I am accepting of whatever my scalp is.
(No need for any type of emotional issues due to ones possible hairloss)
As I understand it, Nizoral (ketoconazole) shampoo, is relatively good to use.
Ive never tried it as let but I remember reading about its long positive history.
(Ill ask Dr. Wesley what he thinks about it too.)

Cheers to you Ice'

allTheGoodNamesAreTaken
09-18-2016, 09:26 AM
If you're going to have a HT they're going to recommend you take propecia anyway to protect against further loss. You might as well see how you respond to it beforehand.

Artista
09-18-2016, 06:56 PM
Hello again Icebald,

I agree with what 'AllTheGoodNamesAreTaken' had to say here,
"If you're going to have a HT they're going to recommend you take propecia anyway to protect against further loss. You might as well see how you respond to it beforehand"
Its true that if you are to go to a good HT doctor, the doctor WOULD advise that you DO start using Finasteride. You should really consider that Ice'....Cheers!
It was a good response to Icebald 'AllTheGoodNamesAreTaken', thanks!

JoeTillman
09-19-2016, 11:15 AM
I must disagree with the idea that it's ok to not be on finasteride at 25 years of age if you are considering surgery. You owe it to your future self to throw everything you can at the problem BEFORE you even remotely consider surgery. Prevention is the first thing to set up because if you don't then a hair transplant is only a temporary fix. While your new hair is growing in your native hair is still falling out.

Things to do first.

1. Talk to your doctor about name brand Propecia or Proscar (cut into quarters).
2. Consider Rogaine.
3. Be healthy. Don't smoke, drink little, exercise a lot and eat good foods.
4. Biotin might help your hair. That, combined with MSM (about 3000 mcg), will help your EXISTING hair grow faster and stronger but there is scant evidence that it makes your miniaturized hairs thicken or prevent loss. Personal reports are one thing, and they do exist, but scientifically not so much.
5. PRP w/ACell. There was a time when I would laugh at this suggestion but I've seen the results myself, dozens of times now, and I've had the procedure with mild improvements (I'm a unique case).

Do all of these things FIRST and while you're doing them you can research your surgical options for IF you stop your loss, not when, because there are no guarantees with this and the last thing you want to do is waste 10K to 20K or more only to be left more loss than your donor zone can handle.

Artista
09-20-2016, 07:58 AM
Good response to Icebald , Joe !! Thank you Joe

Icebald , I hope that you respond here as well, my friend!
I want to back sure that you are or will do A-OK. Do not allow anything in life to affect you in a negative way.
All things in life can be helped. Stay positive, no reason not to be.
Cheers again.

icebald
09-21-2016, 12:06 AM
Im not that depressed because shaved head really suits me,but i miss my hair and styling and so on.I cant afford propecia right now,because im on ssri(zoloft) and have low libido,well propecia will double this problem,as there are side effects like depression,brain fog and loss of libido.

jasonjames
09-21-2016, 05:16 AM
You shouldn't be depressed because of one reason that you are not alone! A lot of people have hair loss problems that come to an extent at which hair transplant is necessary. So you are only one of those people. But still you need to be very carefully for hair transplant (http://woodstechnique.com.au) issue and problems. So go ahead and discuss from a certified hair loss specialist for proper treatment.

Artista
09-21-2016, 10:10 AM
Hi again Icebald! Jasonjames answered well to you my friend!!
(good job Jason')
Icebald, I have to get to work now BUT after work I will get back on here and respond to you much better,,I do care buddy!! Cheers.

wannamyhairback
09-23-2016, 02:49 PM
hey Dude , do not worry you do have pretty good donor area unlike me (https://www.baldtruthtalk.com/threads/24759-diffuse-hairloss-still-want-to-get-HT) you can have very good result in the hands of professional. currently i am in contact with Dr. Tayfun and decided to go and very good luck to you. Prevention is important thats why i am going to start to use propecia

verdot
03-05-2017, 08:32 PM
As someone who got a transplant around your age, I personally wouldn't do it. Mine turned out "fine" but it's not awesome and I do wish I would have just let my hair naturally recede a bit intead of having an artificial hairline and hair that I constantly have to worry about and can't buzz if I'd like to (strip scar).

Go on propecia for now and wait. Shaving your head is just a far better idea if you start to lose hair. Women really dont' care as much about hair as many people are led to believe. You'll eventually lose more through your life and if something happens this isn't like a bad tattoo where you can just wear something over it. Its in your daily view for life.

JeanlucBergman
03-05-2017, 09:59 PM
As someone who got a transplant around your age, I personally wouldn't do it. Mine turned out "fine" but it's not awesome and I do wish I would have just let my hair naturally recede a bit intead of having an artificial hairline and hair that I constantly have to worry about and can't buzz if I'd like to (strip scar).

Go on propecia for now and wait. Shaving your head is just a far better idea if you start to lose hair. Women really dont' care as much about hair as many people are led to believe. You'll eventually lose more through your life and if something happens this isn't like a bad tattoo where you can just wear something over it. Its in your daily view for life.

Who was your doctor?

verdot
03-06-2017, 09:47 PM
Who was your doctor?

I went to Rahal, years ago around 08. He does good work on many people. My issue with the whole thing is that these procedures are done on people way too young who are insecure that they're maturing, their hair is thinning or simply maturing (as was my case in the front, and it wasn't that bad), and instead of suggesting all of the non surgical options, surgeries are the first thing suggested and the real lasting effects aren't really disclosed. My scar healed well but I'll always have to get an all scissors cut. My procedure was frontal hairline work and side grew in slightly less dense than the other probably because of shock loss on that side (a risk that wasn't disclosed) and I just don't really feel like doing it again to get it "perfect" because no one I know cares that much about my hair as much as I used to. These issues are just things that can happen and especially as a person ages into their 50s and beyond, there's a high likelihood for things to start to look off. Its a short term solution with long term risks and the potential for having to keep going back if you get loss in the future. Unless your hairloss looks exceptionally strange, I think the downsides outweighs many of the benefits for people.

Now if you're if you have a high chance of going total loss like the photos I see here, you're going to need a lot of donor hair and will never get full density. I just don't know why you'd want a full head of thinly spaced out hair and would wait awhile and see how people would react to having a shorter cut. I think in time you'd find it to be liberating.

JeanlucBergman
03-06-2017, 09:50 PM
I went to Rahal, years ago around 08. He does good work on many people. My issue with the whole thing is that these procedures are done on people way too young who are insecure that they're maturing, their hair is thinning or simply maturing (as was my case in the front, and it wasn't that bad), and instead of suggesting all of the non surgical options, surgeries are the first thing suggested and the real lasting effects aren't really disclosed. My scar healed well but I'll always have to get an all scissors cut. My procedure was frontal hairline work and side grew in slightly less dense than the other probably because of shock loss on that side (a risk that wasn't disclosed) and I just don't really feel like doing it again to get it "perfect" because no one I know cares that much about my hair as much as I used to. These issues are just things that can happen and especially as a person ages into their 50s and beyond, there's a high likelihood for things to start to look off. Its a short term solution with long term risks and the potential for having to keep going back if you get loss in the future. Unless your hairloss looks exceptionally strange, I think the downsides outweighs many of the benefits for people.

Now if you're if you have a high chance of going total loss like the photos I see here, you're going to need a lot of donor hair and will never get full density. I just don't know why you'd want a full head of thinly spaced out hair and would wait awhile and see how people would react to having a shorter cut. I think in time you'd find it to be liberating.

Do you have before and after photos for your procedure?

verdot
03-06-2017, 10:11 PM
Of course, but my specific result is not the issue. I am making a greater point here that transplants in general are not a magic bullet solution as many people believe, and they can carry lasting effects that aren't often fully realized especially with people in their 20s and people should put a lot of thought into what they are about to do to themselves, I believe this to be the case with any cosmetic surgery as the concerns of the person wanting them more often stem from personal insecurities rather than real physical problems. I stress not rushing into it.

JeanlucBergman
03-06-2017, 11:25 PM
Of course, but my specific result is not the issue. I am making a greater point here that transplants in general are not a magic bullet solution as many people believe, and they can carry lasting effects that aren't often fully realized especially with people in their 20s and people should put a lot of thought into what they are about to do to themselves, I believe this to be the case with any cosmetic surgery as the concerns of the person wanting them more often stem from personal insecurities rather than real physical problems. I stress not rushing into it.

I agree, but ultimately once you've selected a good doctor you're better off with a transplant than without.

Sean
03-07-2017, 01:38 AM
At this age, hold off surgery if you can. Try to eat and be healthy as possible. Start taking meds with doctor supervision and if your body allows it.

Never get surgery when you have tons of native hair like you have. Trust me, things can be worse and turn out worse. You do not want to chase repairs and be harmed physically and emotionally due to the destruction it can bring if not done correctly or without a proper surgical protocol. There are quite a few folks with similar concerns as you that didnt end up to well. Some are still chasing repairs. Ive spoken to tons. From shockloss, to donor depletion, to scarring etc. not to mention massive times out if work and away from family to go through with this. Things are not properly disclosed by some docs amongst other things. Its not as transparent as youd think. Don't fall for any marketing traps either.

Seriously, you are lucky to be in the state you are now. Very blessed vs what could happen.

Some folks wish they could turn back time and never get in that chair in the 1st place. I really wish you the best and really hope you think this really hard. See patients that had similar concerns and similar procedure types and see how they end up. Lots of folks request and some see my scalp all the time up close.

Rizaan
03-07-2017, 03:33 AM
At this age, hold off surgery if you can. Try to eat and be healthy as possible. Start taking meds with doctor supervision and if your body allows it.

Never get surgery when you have tons of native hair like you have. Trust me, things can be worse and turn out worse. You do not want to chase repairs and be harmed physically and emotionally due to the destruction it can bring if not done correctly or without a proper surgical protocol. There are quite a few folks with similar concerns as you that didnt end up to well. Some are still chasing repairs. Ive spoken to tons. From shockloss, to donor depletion, to scarring etc. not to mention massive times out if work and away from family to go through with this. Things are not properly disclosed by some docs amongst other things. Its not as transparent as youd think. Don't fall for any marketing traps either.

Seriously, you are lucky to be in the state you are now. Very blessed vs what could happen.

Some folks wish they could turn back time and never get in that chair in the 1st place. I really wish you the best and really hope you think this really hard. See patients that had similar concerns and similar procedure types and see how they end up. Lots of folks request and some see my scalp all the time up close.

So what about spending your youth as a balding man, during the time when you care about your looks the most?
Then when do you recommend getting a HT done?

WHTC Clinic
03-07-2017, 06:46 AM
Your future may likely involve advanced hair loss, but you also have medical therapy, PRP, and body hair as resources to preserve and conserve your donor area. With hair transplants, you are attempting to gain the appearance of coverage, but you are not going to restore every lost hair on the scalp.

verdot
03-07-2017, 09:38 AM
So what about spending your youth as a balding man, during the time when you care about your looks the most?
Then when do you recommend getting a HT done?

Unless you're interested in attracting men, they're really the wrong people to be asking. Ask a woman always. I see all sorts of bald guys with shaved or very short hair attracting women. A better diet and getting in shape will be a much better use of anyone's time and money. If you're going through a change due to aging, accept the change.people are for more attracted to personality and confidence than a better hair line, despite what many insecure men on here will tell you.

Rizaan
03-07-2017, 10:00 AM
Unless you're interested in attracting men, they're really the wrong people to be asking. Ask a woman always. I see all sorts of bald guys with shaved or very short hair attracting women. A better diet and getting in shape will be a much better use of anyone's time and money. If you're going through a change due to aging, accept the change.people are for more attracted to personality and confidence than a better hair line, despite what many insecure men on here will tell you.

I AM interested in attracting men. Lol. And trust me when I tell you 95% of the time, you lose your attractiveness if you go bald unless you look like this hottie:https://www.instagram.com/mistercaccamo/

It's mostly older women and men that might find a fit bald guy attractive, young girls and guys don't. That's just the way it is.