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kuba197
07-12-2016, 02:31 PM
http://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Companies/Kyocera-to-join-hair-regeneration-research-project

kuba197
07-12-2016, 02:48 PM
http://global.kyocera.com/news/2016/0702_nfid.html

Swooping
07-12-2016, 02:55 PM
This is really excellent news guys. Real hope right there imo :)!

allTheGoodNamesAreTaken
07-12-2016, 05:19 PM
If human trials actually do begin in 2020 that'd be pretty decent. 2020 isn't that far away.

FooFighter
07-12-2016, 05:24 PM
This is still 10 years away ( if ever have some good results). Guys, don’t forget that mice is totally different than human bald head.

dm90
07-12-2016, 06:32 PM
Wait don't they make those cell phones?

FooFighter
07-12-2016, 07:13 PM
Yes, but they also make other equipment. Probably they will try to make high quality equipment for Dr.Tsuji and make his tretmant far more effective and far less expensive to produce.

dm90
07-12-2016, 07:14 PM
Hope its better than their cell phones :D

Trouse5858
07-12-2016, 07:28 PM
I Really want to be optimistic but I just don't think this thing will be commercially available in 3.5 years. Humans have been around for a tiny fraction of a blink of an eye relative to other life and we were all born in a time where technology has allowed everyone to be seamlessly connected at all times. But damn, what I would give to have been born 20 years later and just avoid this mess altogether.

dm90
07-12-2016, 07:48 PM
Human clinical trials will start in 3.5 years. We're looking at maybe 2026? who know those. The important thing is that this is the most promising potential treatment for guys with extensive loss.

FooFighter
07-12-2016, 07:55 PM
I Really want to be optimistic but I just don't think this thing will be commercially available in 3.5 years. Humans have been around for a tiny fraction of a blink of an eye relative to other life and we were all born in a time where technology has allowed everyone to be seamlessly connected at all times. But damn, what I would give to have been born 20 years later and just avoid this mess altogether.
True. Guys who are born now or have 10 years will be much happy in their lives, because probably they will have far better and effective hair loss treatments. Not only hair loss treatments, but also teeth or heart failure treatments. With other words, in next 20 years if you have enough money and wish you will also look very good.

willy31
07-12-2016, 09:54 PM
Do you think this technology will be effective for guys without hair (egg head) / all hair cycles exhausted ?

dm90
07-12-2016, 09:56 PM
If this works, assuming you have hair on the back of your head, then yes. Its, at its most basic level, is hair cloning I believe. Theoretically they would just clone enough hair to cover your scalp and implant it. Problem solved

willy31
07-12-2016, 10:18 PM
But... I have nothing hair. Zero hair! I lost all because I took bad medicaments during many years at very high dose. Diffuse alopecia + extreme miniaturization of hair... to total baldness!


This treatment could it still be effective for me and other guys who have NOTHING hair?

allTheGoodNamesAreTaken
07-12-2016, 10:27 PM
But... I have nothing hair. Zero hair! I lost all because I took bad medicaments during many years at very high dose. Diffuse alopecia + extreme miniaturization of hair... to total baldness!


This treatment could it still be effective for me and other guys who have NOTHING hair?

http://global.kyocera.com/news/2016/images/0702_nfid01.jpg

According to that graphic, they want to start with epithelial stem cells and mesenchymal stem cells from the back of your head where the follicles should be more resistant. Your follicles are miniaturized, but they should still exist, all I've ever read is that they don't go away completely. So you still have what sounds like is needed to grow new follicles.

Pray The Bald Away
07-13-2016, 02:23 PM
But... I have nothing hair. Zero hair! I lost all because I took bad medicaments during many years at very high dose. Diffuse alopecia + extreme miniaturization of hair... to total baldness!


This treatment could it still be effective for me and other guys who have NOTHING hair?

What medication was this and how long did It take you to lose the hair? It sounds like you had anagen effluvium.

willy31
07-13-2016, 02:55 PM
What medication was this and how long did It take you to lose the hair? It sounds like you had anagen effluvium.

Thank you for your answers.

I'm 24 years old. I took Prozac, Risperidone, Concerta at very very very very very high dose during 14 years (between 8 and 22 years). It's not a anagen or telogen effluvium. It's really a medicinal diffuse alopecia constant and permanent. I realized I loss my hair since 2010-2011 and the hair fall never stopped.

Same if I lost ALL my hair because medicament, do you think this technologie will be effective for me? If yes, why and how?

My medicinal baldness is the same result that AGA or it's worse and more difficult to treat.

I'm desperate, I need to understand and have hope.

My questions are very relevant. Many people no longer have any hair like me. Do we have any chances with future treatments such as cloning even without hair?

Thank you.
William

Pray The Bald Away
07-13-2016, 04:51 PM
Thank you for your answers.

I'm 24 years old. I took Prozac, Risperidone, Concerta at very very very very very high dose during 14 years (between 8 and 22 years). It's not a anagen or telogen effluvium. It's really a medicinal diffuse alopecia constant and permanent. I realized I loss my hair since 2010-2011 and the hair fall never stopped.

Same if I lost ALL my hair because medicament, do you think this technologie will be effective for me? If yes, why and how?

My medicinal baldness is the same result that AGA or it's worse and more difficult to treat.

I'm desperate, I need to understand and have hope.

My questions are very relevant. Many people no longer have any hair like me. Do we have any chances with future treatments such as cloning even without hair?

Thank you.
William
It would depend entirely on whether or not the dermal papilla and epithelial cells are still present where your hair follicles are. Even though you are bald, there are most likely still follicles beneath the skin unless they were so damaged by the medication that they have experienced fibrosis. To be honest I've never actually heard of this type of hair loss. If you could link me a page or journal detailing it I might be able to look more in-depth to see if the follicular structures are still present.

karxxx
07-13-2016, 05:53 PM
Beard greft cloning ?