View Full Version : 3,873 grafts combined FUT and FUE with Dr Karadeniz

06-28-2016, 04:51 AM
A few days ago I had my second hair transplant, the first was with Mr Ball in London in July 2015. At that time I had 3394 grafts (6360 hairs) starting from a NW6.

This time I decided to go to Dr Karadeniz in Istanbul. Like last time I'll document updates over the next 12 months to help other people with their choices and give back to this useful community like I also benefited from.

Why Dr Karadeniz?
I spent time looking at reviews and photos of similar cases to mine. The recommendation from the respected Joe T helped me make my decision as well as speaking to a few former patients. Another factor in choosing Dr K was his prices can be up to half of the cost of other surgeons. I was impressed with Dr K's communication, he would reply personally to all emails usually within 24 hours. I also did a video consultation with him via Skype and spoke to him on the phone. Dr K is very passionate about hair transplants and comes across as being very genuine. After we spoke he recommended FUT initially but given I was keen to get as many grafts as possible we decided to go for a combined FUT and FUE procedure over 2 days. I was very keen for this to be my last transplant so I can just forget about my hair loss and move on with my life. I do recognise though that future hair loss is unpredictable so I may be open to having a further procedure after several years, but only if I desperately needed it.

The day before the procedure:
I was picked up by a driver in a very nice new BMW and taken to the Silence Hotel. This is a 5 star hotel and looks nice and is clean. Breakfast was decent and it's located a few minutes walk away from the clinic. There's also a shopping complex next door with high street shops and restaurants.

Day 1 - FUT
I was collected from the hotel at 0745 and taken to the clinic and met Dr K and his team. His team are very nice and you can see they work very well together by the relationship they have with one another. It's a small clinic but nice and clean with all the facilities required.

Dr K examined me and noted I have good laxity - the scalp exercises during the past few months must have paid off! Dr K then answered all my questions. I asked about lowering the hairline or temples which he advised against and felt we should focus on improving the overall density instead (this was similar to Mr Ball's advice one year earlier). We proceeded to the FUT and the local anaesthetic injections stung but weren't too uncomfortable. Whilst his technicians dissected the strip, Dr K made the recipient incisions for both days. Later the technicians implanted the grafts. The day finished around 6pm. Sleeping that night was uncomfortable but the neck pillow I brought helped.

The graft breakdown was:
FUT grafts = 3150
Total hairs = 7100
Average of 2.25 hairs per graft

330 singles
1690 doubles
1130 triples

Day 2 - FUE
This was a smaller session and I found it very comfortable. Dr K did all the extractions and the technician then implanted them. It took approximately 5 hours in total.

The graft breakdown was:
FUE grafts = 723
Total hairs = 1703
Average of 2.35 hairs per graft

123 singles
280 doubles
260 triples
60 quadruples

Punch size was mainly 0.8mm motorised.

At the end Dr K went through the post-op instructions and gave me a bottle of shampoo, a moisturising lotion and 1 years worth of Proscar 5mg. I returned briefly on day 3 for the hair wash performed by the technician. By day 2 the pain to the scar was very bearable and seemed a lot less than what I experienced from my first surgery. I haven't really noticed any pain to the FUE donor areas.

Overall I was very pleased with my experience and decision to choose Dr K. I was happy to hear that he feels I probably could get another 2000 grafts from a further FUT given my laxity, and another 1000 grafts FUE.

In total I've now had 7,267 grafts (15,163 hairs) so hopefully this will give me a good end result!

Any comments or questions feel free to ask.

06-28-2016, 04:54 AM
Pre-op photos before my first transplant...

06-28-2016, 04:58 AM
Photos from first Transplant with Mr Ball, then showing results at 11.5 months post-op and also the scar just before my 2nd surgery...

06-28-2016, 04:59 AM
Photos 24-48 hours post-op Dr Karadeniz...

07-14-2016, 12:35 PM
Day 8 pics to show how the scar looks for those interested who may want to plan their future surgeries / post-op recovery and return to work.

07-14-2016, 12:36 PM
Day 15 pics

07-17-2016, 04:21 AM
Thank you for logging your experience!

If I ever consider a HT in the future, Dr K is looking very promising.

10-03-2016, 01:54 AM
Wooww , you were pretty much a NW6 at the beginning and looks like you will have a respectable coverage and hopefuly good density .
Looking forward to see updates

10-23-2016, 12:21 PM
4 month update

10-24-2016, 12:18 PM
Hi Hairsgone,

your progress looks awesome. I am also thinking to get my 2nd HT done from Dr. Ali Emre Karadeniz.How was your overall experience and how do you feel about the Doctor and his team?

10-24-2016, 01:51 PM
Experience as in the 1st post. Overall was happy with Dr K and his team.

10-24-2016, 02:08 PM
Thanks for your reply, today I had online consultation with Dr K, he looked very professional and proud of his work. No Hidden promises and cleared my doubt about FUT and FUE.
I have not a good 1st HT with FUE, so he said he will be using FUT+FUE combo in order to get more density to my affected area.

I will be doing HT soon, will keep you all posted regarding my progress as well. Thanks again for this detailed post, which help my decision making even more easier.

12-21-2016, 02:23 PM
6 month update...
Overall I'm not sure there has been much growth since my 4 month update but I've found changing my hairstyle and using some gel wax is helping it look more fuller

01-21-2017, 08:33 AM
7 month update

I am happy with the improvement so far, definitely a good improvement since pre-op. People who haven't seen me in a few months comment that I look better and different and some have mentioned my hair looks different (but without knowing I've had a HT)

06-24-2017, 06:45 AM
This is my 12 month update, I'm not expecting much change from here. Overall I'm very happy with the improvement from this HT. The crown ideally needs more grafts but I will wait to see how things progress in the next 4-5 years and if I'm not losing more ground will consider filling in the crown then - how many grafts do you think would be needed for the crown? Comments welcome.

06-24-2017, 03:43 PM
Hi, looks really good you must be please, thin scar and lots of growth. I'm in a similar situation as you, had a HT with very good results but still a thin crown. At this point I don't really think about the crown and kind of scared to mess with a good thing so just going to leave it as is for the foreseeable future. I have no idea how many grafts the crown will take, seems like they take more than other sections to completely fill due to the way the hair swirls around.