View Full Version : My hair transplant; depressed and sad

12-21-2015, 05:53 AM
Hi guys

I m new here, i want to share with you my Experience and results so far

I had an HT from 4.5 months 3650 grafts by fue method and the clinic called it "stem cell fue" they convienced me it is a new technique using tools of 0.5 to 0.7 as maximim, and they trying not to take the whole graft but cut part of it and implant it this will allow of partially regrowth in donor area around 30 to 40%. In addition the scars are nondeductible at all, even if i shave my head cuz no scars with these small tools and only might find tiny unoticeable gaps. Also they will not leave me after the surgery and they continue follow up and treat my hair with growth factor and mezotherapy each month for 1 year and they gave me gurantee to do all the works again or refund in case of failure

My surgent is ishrs and eshrs specialized in fue only and his an esteem member in ishrs from 2002

My surgery took around 11 hours in hospital, i was the only client and my surgent told me he only do one operation per day and he operated everythings with a team of 5 technichans, he harvested and open the channels in the scalp and implanted the hairline and then he took a break and each 30 minuts come back to see the work and then after finishing implanting the grafts he made a final touch up and told me you are good to go so i came back home for 2 weeks recovery

Now during recovery, i start read more about HT

and i found out that i was so naive and i took everything easily and for guaranted without knowng anything, each time i read something my heart stop beating and scare shit of me
What i did to myself, hair transplant should not be done in this way, it should be planned well and not based on randomly basis

when i checked my hairline i found it so aggresive to my case
I m 30 years old and almost norwood 5 and they gave me this hairline, i hope it was higher, i hope they start from the middle or from the crown, i m so bald and this operation does not suit me at all.

In addition there is nothing called stem cell fue this is a commercial term only, the clinic was not honest and they give me false name now,
Also no matter what, there will be scars and my head will not look the same ever and i will not be able to shave again,

They have used most of the grafts on frontal third, 3650 grafts only for front, wht is left for mid and crown. ( i think they did these in order to cover any non growth case so they implant maximum to have average results) i start doubt everything

Here i became so depressed, i could not do anything in my life, i believe i was a victim to this devil industry espically after read many horror stories on net. HT is all scam and if it works, it works with 2 conditions, "low norwood level and propecia" and for me this not an option at all

I start look to the bald people and see how they have peace with themself, now i love to be bald, i wish i didn t do anything, i wish to shave everything and move one, it is far better than thin unmangable hair

Everyday is like a nightmare for me i lost hope and faith i saw myself as alien now with unatural looking, my work and social life had changed dramaticlly, i m isolated man now, nervous and not able to do a simple task always starring, sleepy and depressed, i stop go to the gym and eat and always i want sleep and never wake up

Now after 4.5 months the hair grow and my appearnace become slightly better but the growth is only on hairline and the hair is so ugly, it so thin and waivy, my hair is not like this so imagine now bald spots everywhere and hair on hairline only "This is unatural look"
And i feel this is the only what i will get no more growth anymore

I hate myself more, nothing is natural

Please tell me what i can do ? I m too bald to this operation? And no body told me that, and myself i understimat my bald status

I feel like i walked into a prison and now i cannot be free again, i distort my self, my thinking , i cannot think stright anymore,

I put some pics before during and after 4.5 months

All i want now is to look human again, i want to shave or laser off everthing

12-21-2015, 07:00 AM
If you can prove in a court that you were deliberately mislead... then can you sue?

12-21-2015, 07:19 AM
I cannot take them to the court as i already sign an acknoldgement about the surgery and it is all related to assessment if i was a good candidate and they will say i was

However, i think this was my foolish mistake i went to them myself

I told them aleady i m not happy this is all wrong so they said you still early and you have to wait 1 year before final assessment

And they said nothing wrong and everything look normal but i do not believe them anymore and what i know is i m not happy and depressed because of surgery is not suit my personalty and my baldness status.

It so hard when you imagine something and they convinced you that you will get back your hair and you have a lot of hope and then after the surgery your dreams would be smashed with hard truth that HT is something fake

I m totaly lost i cannot know what i should do anymore

12-21-2015, 08:59 AM
Sam 23 ,

At 4.5 months post-op , you will only now be starting to show results . You have at least 7 months , maybe longer , for the full effects to show through .

Try not to stress yourself too much , it's too early to write of your surgery as a total disaster .

The photos you have uploaded are not the best - would be able to give better assessment with higher definition photo's under good lighting .

12-21-2015, 10:05 AM
This is anoher pic

I hope it is clear

See the hair is so thin and waivy

12-21-2015, 10:41 AM
This is anoher pic

I hope it is clear

See the hair is so thin and waivy

You are stressing yourself over nothing. Your hair looks AWESOME!!!! for 4.5 months post op. It takes time to see the final results. 12-18 months usually.

I've read about the procedure you had. I thought it was only available in Japan. Please keep us posted, I would really like to see your results at 12 months and If scars are visible, if donor hairs actually grow back.

So far you look absolutely GREAT! I don't think I've ever seen such good results at 4.5 months!

Very exciting someone from this forum had the procedure you had. It's by far leaps and bounds ahead of current HT methods.

Please keep us posted. Thanks for posting and good luck!!

12-21-2015, 11:10 AM
Agreed . Your HT is looking promising for 4.50 months .

Take a chill pill , wait out the next 8 months or so , and reassess from there .

12-21-2015, 11:33 AM
I'm so excited about the procedure you had I had to comment again.

The reason you haven't found info on stem cell HT is because it's very very new. Last I heard the method was still being patented. I have a few questions when you get a chance please.

In what country did you have the procedure done?

What's the cost per graft?

Are you seeing any growth from the donor wounds?


12-21-2015, 11:50 AM
Thanks for this positive replies, so do you think it will grow more ? Cuz i only see growth in hairline only this makes me nervous

12-21-2015, 11:59 AM
Almost certainly - At least 8 months to make any kind of final assessment .

12-21-2015, 12:39 PM
Wow man, that's actually a really good HT in my opinion... once that thickens up, you will have the illusion of almost a full head of hair. Believe it or not, you're very lucky and this seems to be turning out very well. Rest easy and let that hair grow and know that you will not have to worry about hair loss any more! :D

12-21-2015, 12:41 PM
Yes friend, I have to say I agree with the others - your results do not look too bad at all, and you'll still have more to come. Try not to be too self-conscious about it - I know it's difficult, but I think you are doing fine. It doesn't look unnatural.

You'll grow more, and even if you don't, you have no reason to be nervous or feel isolated. Stay strong my friend, I guarantee you that in a few short months, you will feel much better.

12-21-2015, 01:54 PM
I paid around 2.3 per graft, and what you said Vic is almost the same that the surgent told me that nobody doing this yet because it is new and i did it in middle east

the donor area look normal now but still thin from some places definetly better from 2 months as my barber said. And it start feel normal after 1.5 month

the clinic told me it will continue grow up up to 1 year.

Thank guys you really give me some relieve here, i hope i m worry for nothing and to see more growth as you said

12-21-2015, 02:04 PM
Hi Sam I am sorry to hear you are not happy with your HT. I have to agree with Jamesst11 though your photos do look good this early on.
A lot of surgeons recommend waiting 12 months or longer before making any kind of assessment for success. I had to wait almost 18 months before my surgeon admitted my Fue HT was a failure.

As others have said stay strong Sam and try to be patient, it is very hard to do I know, we all want results asap. I hope you can keep us updated on your HT journey, I look forward to see how you progress in the near future.


12-21-2015, 03:10 PM
Sam23 are you complaining or bragging? That's some of the best 4.5 month results I've ever seen. The wavy thin hair will get straight and probably triple in thickness over the next 8-12 months. You need to relax, we all freak out after a hair transplant. Stop looking in the mirror, get a hobby or work more. Whatever time you spend doing anything besides looking at your head is time well spent. Around month 7 or 8 when you have a lot of growth you'll start to relax.

12-21-2015, 03:38 PM
I paid around 2.3 per graft, and what you said Vic is almost the same that the surgent told me that nobody doing this yet because it is new and i did it in middle east

the donor area look normal now but still thin from some places definetly better from 2 months as my barber said. And it start feel normal after 1.5 month

the clinic told me it will continue grow up up to 1 year.

Thank guys you really give me some relieve here, i hope i m worry for nothing and to see more growth as you said

2.3 What currency? How much is that in dollars? Where in Middle East?

12-21-2015, 10:39 PM
2.3 US dollar and in Dubai

12-21-2015, 11:19 PM
2.3 US dollar and in Dubai

Wow $2.30 is great. Keep us posted on progress. Thx

12-22-2015, 04:12 AM
My problem i think is the changing of my head shape and specially the forehead my head was like square now become rectangle,
It seems i was not ready for this makeover
i used to have a forelock only for most of 10 years and now suddenly i see my forehead has shrinked and become so narrow, so for example i m not used to have hair on side of my head and now there is a stright hairline there without gaps just line of hair and not so much recede it, my forehead was higher it is so low now, i wish it was higher and with corners or angles

That my biggest issue, i cannot accept it, i see it totally wrong, that is why i always wish if i only restore forelock without hairline. Just to restore my look from 5 years ago not something totally new distort my face
I do not know if this attitude will be changed after full growth (i doubt)

Sorry i m nagging a lot and it sound not make sense

but any advise? Should i laser off some hair?

12-22-2015, 04:31 AM
I add an old pic for my hair from 6 years ago to see what i mean ( the forehead was bigger and wider) and there was like corners not too stright

Maybe because i cannot judge on hairline now without full growth ?

12-22-2015, 05:58 AM
I agree with the comments that you need to wait before judging your results.

However, you may be correct about the hairline placement. On the street, it's not a common hair loss pattern to see somebody with a strong, straight, low hairline, and a very large bald area behind that. A recessed hairline (not square and low) would have been smarter - it would have conserved donor grafts for the back, and it would have looked like a more natural pattern.

However, you need to let this hair transplant mature. Even if you were to take some action (I don't know what), it's too early. You need to let your scalp heal. Hopefully in 6 more months, you will be happier with your results.

I'm not familiar with this 'new procedure' but the track record for other doctors who claim to regenerate the donor supply has not been good.

12-22-2015, 12:59 PM
Can you define receded hairline ?

For my case for example they restored the original point (1/3 rule around 7cm from low of eyebrow) and then it is raised gradually till corner around 1.5 to 2cm

But for my head shape i think it can be raised more cuz it looks like horizental line and not receded at all this when i look stright but when i bow my head it looks receded, so it confuse me

12-22-2015, 01:46 PM
However, you may be correct about the hairline placement. On the street, it's not a common hair loss pattern to see somebody with a strong, straight, low hairline, and a very large bald area behind that. A recessed hairline (not square and low) would have been smarter - it would have conserved donor grafts for the back, and it would have looked like a more natural pattern.

Do you really think you're commentary on Sam23's hairline placement was really of any value to him at this point arfy? The poor guy is already feeling bad about his decision and there have been some very honest, positive responses to his situation that probably helped him to put things into perspective and might have given him some relief. For 4.5 months his work looks very good and once his hair grows more his hairline will most likely soften. If he does end up unhappy with the placement, some grafts could be added to bring out his temporal points to add some balance, but to make the guy feel even worse about his situation is terrible.

@Sam23, you might be pleasantly surprised once everything matures. For 4.5 months the growth is fantastic and once your hair begins to cycle normally the waviness should diminish.

12-22-2015, 01:56 PM
I'm in a similiar situation -being NW5a with possible balding towards nw6 and have made a hair transplant in the frontal third. This would be perfect if there were enough donor hair to cover the top and crown, but less than perfect if the donor is running low on available grafts. I'm quite sure I can't cover the top and crown without the donor looking bad, and instead am I now considering using a hairpiece behind the transplant. If that works well it could look way better than a transplant or hairpiece only. It's not easy to find information about that combo though.

12-22-2015, 05:54 PM
People's unrealistic expectations about what a hair transplant can do on a high NW...

Think for a second, you will not get your original density back. Even if you get 3000 grafts, that's like 7000 hairs.

And you had maybe 8 times that on your NW5-6 before! What did you expect?

Your hair transplant seems to be a success, and there's more to come.

I've had 2000 grafts on my NW5 area and my hair looks just like yours if I grow it out.

I chose not to, it gives me a SMP effect with which I'm happy.

I'm sorry if you thought a hair transplant was some sort of cure that would give you back your original hair.

12-22-2015, 09:26 PM
Thank you for your honest replies,

I m always looking to the mirror, i feel something is wrong in the hairline, i kept looking all this time and i cannot guess, there is something not right and at the end, i found out that this hairline is not suit to my case
Can you check this pic, this what i mean, see at the end the hairline is not straight
Because of this hairline i have to bring the temple now which is risky to my baldness level

At last, let say in extream case i want to rid of of all of this, can i shave my head without problem or can i laser it off?

Sorry i m talking too much, but i m so depressed and feeling i m stuck in bad situation, i want to come back to my old life

12-22-2015, 09:50 PM
Please can you check those pics,

First pic, the hairline look so horizental (even it is receded around 2 cm)

Second and third pic the hairline is so sharp from the center to the corner

I think the central point should be created first and then add the hair behind the central gradually ( triangle shape) and not extending the hairline on the same level of the central

I hope i clear my point

Do you think i m right ? Should i unplug hair on side or lase them off ? Or the balance goona improved in the future ?

12-22-2015, 09:56 PM
One side will usually grow faster than the other. Give it 8 months. Laser doesn't kill hair even either. I had my shoulders lasered and after 12 times they still have hair and it is uneven. Relax and give it time.

12-22-2015, 11:22 PM
To you your hair looks unnatural, but to most people your hair looks OK! Most people who you meet will not even be thinking about your hair in a bad way. On Sunday just gone I had a deep conversation about hair loss with the sister of a friend who has scarring alopecia, she is completely bald. She told me that on that very day, a few hours earlier, that a male stranger in the street in central London came up to her and said to her, "you look beautiful without any hair". She was absolutely astounded by this as it has never happened before to her.

Anyway, the point is that you may think that other people are looking down on you about your appearance when they really are not. You, yourself are creating your own problems and misery: the problem is not what is going on on top of your head but what is going on inside your head! Stop thinking about it, occupy yourself with other things. Go and meet with your friends. You have one life and no second take on it. Enjoy it and appreciate it. Fred970 is right in pointing out the fact that you should have had realistic expectations with regards to what a hair transplant could do for you. It is the hair transplant surgeon’s job to sell you a dream, but you also have responsibility to have realistic expectations.

As others have said, your hair looks much better than what it was before, and it can get better in the next 14 months, with 18 months being the realistic time-frame after a hair transplant to assess whether it has been a success or failure. You have to be patient. There are many people who have had the same degree of baldness as you who have had a hair transplant and ended up with result far worse than yours.

Be happy! Bud schastliv!

12-23-2015, 12:45 AM
You are absoultly right, that is why the hair transplant is preferrable after 40 as the young guys will always remember and expect that their old hair will come back the same.
My concept about HT expectation is that it cannot bring the old hair from 10 or 15 years ago from density and hair line and i was ok with that, but i thought it would be good enough if it will give me the look of 5 years ago nw3 , and i start expect that my hair will look exactly when i start balding, same hairline, same gaps, high receding but what is happend is the surgery gave me new hairline, i did not expect that, i thought it will mimc the old nw3 hairline with the same gaps, even i showed an old pic to the surgent before but he did not do it and justifed it that i will not be satisfied at all and i will come back later to fill in more so it is better to create somethig more suitable to my face shape and not mimic an old stage cuz it will not look good with transplant hair

To be honest before the surgery i did not think about all of these details, i just want hair on top regardless of the details i believed hair on top is better than shiny scalp espically i m single 30 year old and i lost all of my hear within two years only

My thought at that time the baldness is ugly and disfigured and anything better than baldness, but later after surgery i start see that bald people are normal looking and not bad at all and there are many celebreties are bald and handsome

As you said it is all in the mind " the beauty is in the eye of beholder " i regret why i did not think in this concept before, now i have to live with this false thing to the rest of my life and this what make me depressed

This is what i expect see how the hairline is higher and receded, i draw also the new line