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baldymort
01-15-2014, 10:46 PM
Hey all! I have been a lurker here for sometime (basically once I noticed my hairless) and have finally decided to post and ask your opinion on my current situation. I am 23, started noticing a little less hair around my cowlick area around 21 maybe closer to 22. But since then my hair loss has really advanced. My actual hairline is not too different from what it use to be but the diffuse thinning (especially at the crown) has been quite significant. Baldness is most definitely prevalent on my father's side. My dad is bald and my older brother is also a NW4 at 26. I finally got up the nerve you talk to my GP about finasteride and he told me plain out that he doesn't think it works. Stated that he has had one other patient try it and with how much it costs and the little it did for him; made it not worth while. He's a good guy I do think he's looking out for me but his opinion on this subject seemed to be based upon one patient only and that couldn't possibly tell the whole truth right? I have seen on many forums and read quite deeply into finasteride and think it might be my best bet (coupled with a good diet, some other supplements and nizoral shampoo), and have a full understanding of the side affects and issues involved with taking this drug. I have also seen that many (if not the majority) of you seem to get your finasteride without a prescription online. So, sorry for the long post, but what do you think I should do? Start this regime but take the chance of purchasing fin online? Should I go over his head a see a derm doctor? I understand I am going bald and there's nothing I can do about it...I'm fine with that but if there's a treatment that can get me through my 20's with a decent head of hair (I have always had a buzz cut and it still looks fine even now) why shouldn't I try it...

Thanks for your help every comment is greatly appreciated!!!

Notcoolanymore
01-15-2014, 11:04 PM
Similar story to mine except my hair loss started on the hair line. I went to a doctor in my mid 20's and he pretty much told me there wasn't anything I could do. I listened to him and now I am 37, with much less hair than I would have had if I had started treatment when I originally had seen my Dr over 10 years ago. If your doctor wont write you a prescription for fin for any other reason besides cost or his opinion that it doesn't work, then see a Dr. who will write you a prescription. The meds we have currently aren't the best, but they do work. For some they work great. You might be one of these people. If you are comfortable with the sides risk, I say start taking it. I did and have had some success. My only regret is not getting on it years ago.

BTW, I get my stuff online. If you are not comfortable with doing that, then get it from your local pharmacy.

baldymort
01-16-2014, 08:39 PM
Thanks for the reply man! I have seen your story on here before and it seemed like your results using fin (amoung other things) was pretty spectacular. I have pretty realistic expectation and am only hoping to keep what I have for the foreseeable future. Where do you get it online, do you need a script for it?

Thanks again.

Notcoolanymore
01-16-2014, 09:44 PM
Thanks for the reply man! I have seen your story on here before and it seemed like your results using fin (amoung other things) was pretty spectacular. I have pretty realistic expectation and am only hoping to keep what I have for the foreseeable future. Where do you get it online, do you need a script for it?

Thanks again.

Unlike me though, you are doing something early which is key. I get my stuff from inhouse. Just google it and you will find the site. Many guys around here get there stuff from there. I remember somebody even taking the stuff he ordered from there to a lab to get it tested and it was legit.

baldymort
01-17-2014, 10:49 AM
Yeah, I'm definitely at the point that if fin were to work (even a little bit for me) I would have a decent enough head of hair where with the right hair cuts my MPB wouldn't bee too noticeable. Especially when most people can't recognize the early signs of MPB unless they themselves have started to bald.

In terms of inhouse, which product do you get? I was planning on getting one of the 5mg varieties and splitting the pills in fourths, so that leaves me with the 5mg Procar or the 5mg Fincar. I have also read a lot about the sides. I do believe that most of the side's are mental (or due to pre-existing conditions such as depression, stress, etc.) but the more physical ones (gyno, ball ache) are definitely real. I was planning on tapering onto my fin dose to mitigate some of the risk, what would you guys suggest for my tapering dosage/schedule?

Thanks again!

Notcoolanymore
01-17-2014, 05:11 PM
Yeah, I'm definitely at the point that if fin were to work (even a little bit for me) I would have a decent enough head of hair where with the right hair cuts my MPB wouldn't bee too noticeable. Especially when most people can't recognize the early signs of MPB unless they themselves have started to bald.

In terms of inhouse, which product do you get? I was planning on getting one of the 5mg varieties and splitting the pills in fourths, so that leaves me with the 5mg Procar or the 5mg Fincar. I have also read a lot about the sides. I do believe that most of the side's are mental (or due to pre-existing conditions such as depression, stress, etc.) but the more physical ones (gyno, ball ache) are definitely real. I was planning on tapering onto my fin dose to mitigate some of the risk, what would you guys suggest for my tapering dosage/schedule?

Thanks again!

I get Fincar 5mg finasteride. Potential for sides is very real, just like with any other prescription drug. If you decide on taking the drug don't go looking for sides. If you look for sides, you will most likely find them. Just listen to your body. There are a number of threads describing how others have tapered on the drug. I took the the full 1mg from the beginning.

35YrsAfter
01-20-2014, 08:18 AM
I finally got up the nerve you talk to my GP about finasteride and he told me plain out that he doesn't think it works. Stated that he has had one other patient try it and with how much it costs and the little it did for him; made it not worth while.

I have also seen that many (if not the majority) of you seem to get your finasteride without a prescription online. So, sorry for the long post, but what do you think I should do? Start this regime but take the chance of purchasing fin online? Should I go over his head a see a derm doctor?

Thanks for your help every comment is greatly appreciated!!!

I personally would not take finasteride. On the other hand, I do believe it works well for some men in holding back MPB.

I would never buy a prescription drug online that does not require a doctor's prescription. You could end up taking something either substandard, ineffective or even dangerous to your health.

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baldymort
01-27-2014, 09:23 PM
Thanks for the input guys, I really appreciate it! I will have another chat with my GP and press him a little more. I will meet with him in early February and will start a regime of fin and niz shampoo. I will taper onto the fin and hope to be up to 1 mg per day by April while using the niz shampoo 2-4 times per week. Once I start my regime I will post my 'before' shots and then some updates at 3, 6, and 12 months. Hopefully it works for me as I haven't found too many positive stories for younger guys but I'll keep you updated!!!

redy
01-27-2014, 10:51 PM
Thanks for the input guys, I really appreciate it! I will have another chat with my GP and press him a little more. I will meet with him in early February and will start a regime of fin and niz shampoo. I will taper onto the fin and hope to be up to 1 mg per day by April while using the niz shampoo 2-4 times per week. Once I start my regime I will post my 'before' shots and then some updates at 3, 6, and 12 months. Hopefully it works for me as I haven't found too many positive stories for younger guys but I'll keep you updated!!!


It's definitely kept mine from getting worse in the last 6 months, and improved the overall quality of my hair. However, the sheds suck and are disheartening. It's a journey man. My advice would be to try to come to terms with it and be surprised if the treatment makes it better. However, I haven't yet been able to do that.

baldymort
02-18-2014, 11:19 PM
Hey guys just a quick update for anyone who is interested...I finally took the plunge yesterday as I began my journey to keeping my hair!! My current regime will include tapering onto fin @ 1mg EOD, 5% liquid minox every night, and 1% Niz shampoo EOD. I have been lazy recently but have also began to get back in shape and have started eating healthier and lifting so hopefully that will help out a little bit also!!

I have attached some pics I have taken (sorry only had my camera phone available) of my current situation. I used really high lighting so it actually looks a lot worse then I think it really is but at least I can easily replicate the same environment for when I take pics further down the line.

Also If any one is interested I am keeping a little bit of a journal to keep up with my progress. So far after 24 hours nothing to write home about, still getting hard all the time, no brain fog, ect so hopefully this keeps up!

Notcoolanymore
02-19-2014, 01:43 AM
You are not in bad shape. If you grow some hair back and thicken up what you have, your going to be looking pretty good.

redy
02-19-2014, 09:28 AM
Hey man,

your hair isn't that bad due to the color/texture of it too.

You have plenty of healthy hair left, but you definitely need to treat it if you want to keep the coverage.

I would suggest, though, is maybe buzzing the sides a little shorter than the top, especially around the temple points and neck, it will make it look a little cleaner. It might help blend in your thinning top with the rest of the hair as these points especially tend to be where the longer strands of hair bunch up and form thicker areas.

But, if you go too short it will draw some attention to your thinner top, the key is balance.

baldymort
02-19-2014, 02:08 PM
Thanks for the replies guys! Yeah I let it grow out a bit to really highlight the thinning, I usually buzz it to a 2 and it looks fine. I have usually had a pretty short buzz so it really doesn't look that odd to people. If the regime can help thicken my vellus hair I think it will look real nice. I basically had a great haircut 6 months ago so if after a while it gets back to that point I would be ecstatic but at least keeping what I have now will work too.

redy
02-19-2014, 02:55 PM
Thanks for the replies guys! Yeah I let it grow out a bit to really highlight the thinning, I usually buzz it to a 2 and it looks fine. I have usually had a pretty short buzz so it really doesn't look that odd to people. If the regime can help thicken my vellus hair I think it will look real nice. I basically had a great haircut 6 months ago so if after a while it gets back to that point I would be ecstatic but at least keeping what I have now will work too.

Yeah, that probably is doable if you jump on the 'big 3'

You could just rock the aaron paul buzz style - I'm trying to do that but I don't have the balls to buzz my hair and show the world how shitty my hairline is .. and just grow my hair to cover my hairline.

baldymort
02-19-2014, 11:45 PM
Yeah I have always had a buzz cut, the longest I have really had my hair was a less douchy version of the Mackelmore cut which was a bout 6-7 months ago. I look pretty decent even when I have buzzed it down to a 0 so I guess I won't look too much different if I was completely bald (but f**k that). I just took your advice and cut it from a 1 on the sides tapering up to a 3 on top; it looks 100x better so thanks! Its been three days a no side so far, but I am trying not to think about those too much or the dreaded fin/minox shed which would really suck... Thanks again for all your input!

baldymort
02-21-2014, 10:33 PM
Just another quick question, how long did it take for you guys to start experiencing any of the sides of fin or minox?

Notcoolanymore
02-21-2014, 11:36 PM
I got the "ball ache" when I started fin. If I remember correctly, I got it right away. It wasn't painful, more discomfort than anything. Went away in about a couple of months.

Jcm800
02-22-2014, 08:38 AM
If ball ache was the only side I'd suffer that all year round gladly.. It's all the other scarey shit that puts me off.. Gynaecomastia, brain fog, penile shrinkage, weight gain, depression, anxiety attacks, and to cap it all potential persistent sides if you can't hack it daily.

Damn it, I wish I'd never heard of the sides and just took it, I'm scared shitless to even think of it.. Damn , it.. high NW here I come I think :(

Notcoolanymore
02-22-2014, 04:31 PM
If ball ache was the only side I'd suffer that all year round gladly.. It's all the other scarey shit that puts me off.. Gynaecomastia, brain fog, penile shrinkage, weight gain, depression, anxiety attacks, and to cap it all potential persistent sides if you can't hack it daily.

Damn it, I wish I'd never heard of the sides and just took it, I'm scared shitless to even think of it.. Damn , it.. high NW here I come I think :(

I hear you dude. Believe me, I read a ton about the potential sides. It scared the crap out of me also. But if you've seen my pics you know why I jumped on it. I thought for me it was worth the risk. I had to try something if I wanted to keep from going slick. It may not be worth it for you and I respect that. Prescription drugs aren't anything to mess with.

baldymort
02-23-2014, 10:57 AM
Ok well that's what I thought; most people seem to encounter sides pretty quickly once they start fin/minox and I've been on it for a week now with not one side at all. Hopefully this is a good thing and not that the fincar from inhouse are duds.

redy
02-23-2014, 12:39 PM
Ok well that's what I thought; most people seem to encounter sides pretty quickly once they start fin/minox and I've been on it for a week now with not one side at all. Hopefully this is a good thing and not that the fincar from inhouse are duds.

Don't worry about the sides.
It makes it less likely for you to 'find' them.

If you do get some real ones, then just stop.

recedingone
02-23-2014, 06:24 PM
After a week on 1mg fin, i had some libido issues and I stopped. A few weeks later I gave it another chance and that initial libido hit wears off and I have been good taking .5- 1mg a day. I do think it has made my mood slightly depressed.

been on it 3 months now. I haven't seen a change in my hair yet but I will give it a year.

Im almost 40, slow loss since age 30 and now Im a norwood 3... All loss is in the front and temples and thin on top. I shave and buzz my head frequently but just like you, it doesn't mean I want to be bald. It is pretty strange taking Fin and rubbing minoxidil into a freshly shaven head haha. I actually shave my head with nizoral shampoo sometimes.

Shelley79328
02-24-2014, 11:05 AM
Thanks for your input. I will follow your progress with baited breath. Regarding meds, everyone reacts differently to them. Some meds do exactly what they are supposed to do and some don't, just seems to depend on your own physiology. As far as side effects go, also some people get them and some don't. You may find the side effects you get are quite manageable, if that is the case, it is definitely worth the risks to give it a try. We all must remember when we see a doctor or therapist we are getting one person's opinion and one person's experience. If that were research we would not take it as fact. We could get more info. I'm glad your trying it:)

baldymort
03-18-2014, 11:15 AM
Hey guys I just wanted to chime in with a 1 month update. I will post pics if you guys want but I've let me hair grow out a bit so I don't know if you'd really be able to tell anything by them. In terms of the fin, I've continued taking 1.25mg EOD and so far have had ZERO side effects. I don't know if this is due to the fact I am getting them from inhouse and they are duds but hopefully I am just one of the lucky ones. I have also continued taking the minox every night before I go to bed. Zero sides from the minox and have yet to encounter any shedding so hopefully that continues. The only issues I have had have been with the Niz. If I use the niz too much I find I actually get dandruff. But if I keep the usage down to 1-2x per week then I have no issue with flakes.

The biggest benefit from this whole process has been the fact that I have actually acted instead of just waited. I can only imagine if I acted a year earlier when my MPB was hardly noticeable. My only advice to any guys just noticing their balding is act ASAP. You have plenty of time on your hands why not get the treatments; you know you're going bald, your dad is bald, your uncles are bald why would you wait?!?!

baldymort
10-07-2014, 10:15 PM
Hey guys I just wanted to give you a quick update as I haven't checked-in in a while. I've been on 1.25 mg of fin per day and 1.5 mL of minox per day (applied at night) and my results have been awesome. I can upload pictures if you want but my hair was so much shorter in my base pictures that it really wouldn't accurately show my progress. What I can say is I have had almost zero side affects, I have been noticing less ejaculate and a decrease in the amount and frequency of erections but not enough were I constantly think about it. I can't say if the fin is working and I haven't experienced any shed but I will continue to order from inhouse. But, I can say that the liquid minox has definitely improved my crown area. That was the area that I first noticed the thinning (you could see it in any far away pictures and even some of my friends noticed the thinning) and it has definitely thickened it up. I'll try to find a good baseline picture of my hair circa 2012/2013 when it was a similar length and compare it to a current one.

That being said the best thing that came out of this experience was peace of mind. I was extremely nervous after taking the plunge but after a few weeks I could finally look at myself and say "**** it, I did everything I could (within reason)" and that itself was a huge step. I started regrowing out my hair as the minox started working (or so I think) and hardly ever think about it now. And even if I do I care so much less about it then I did before that it doesn't bother me. 8 months ago my MPB literally haunted me, I thought about it constantly. At the very least trying the medication was a huge emotional (i know it sounds girly) step for me and really the progress I've made has just been an extra benefit (albeit a welcomed one). I hope this can at least guide some of the younger guys into action, I can't imagine what my hair would look like if I started treatment at 22 when I first noticed my MPB instead of 24. In 2 years I went from a full head of hair to constantly buzzing it at a 0 to hide my thinning/recession. Now I've grown it back out, still have a little (but hardly noticeable, even to me) thinning around the crown but can finally go through a day without the constant worrying about my baldness. Hope this helps, I'll continue my regime and hopefully see continued improvements. Let me know if you guys have any questions.

jridd9
10-08-2014, 09:19 AM
couple of pics would be cool

K97
10-08-2014, 04:29 PM
Well I'm 24 and thinning on top, think it's time to take the step. I would L O V E to just put hair loss out of my mind for a while...

hairregrowth
09-19-2016, 06:26 AM
Hey man. Im wondering how are your hairs now since i my hairs are exactly the same when you started.