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baldozer
04-06-2013, 01:14 AM
http://www.mcarticles.com/a/why-am-i-going-bald-overview-of-the-current-hair-loss-theories/

Morbo
04-06-2013, 06:09 AM
Thought it was a really silly read with no hard evidences and a lot of half-ass guesses, fueling again the abundance of (false) hairloss myths. Until some sort groundbreaking research proofs otherwise, let's agree that 99,99 % of hairloss still comes down to genetics.

baldozer
04-06-2013, 06:13 AM
Thought it was a really silly read with no hard evidences and a lot of half-ass guesses, fueling again the abundance of (false) hairloss myths. Until some sort groundbreaking research proofs otherwise, let's agree that 99,99 % of hairloss still comes down to genetics.

But this part is interesting,

It is believed that people with longer hair have a lesser chance of going bald. When the hair is short, sebum has no medium for transfer and stays on top of the head, blocking the flow. Longer hair allows for easier excretion of the sebum. In this light, the fact that baldness is a lot more pronounced in man, rather than women fits perfectly.

Might explain why rock stars and women are less prone to baldness!

Morbo
04-06-2013, 07:33 AM
But this part is interesting,

It is believed that people with longer hair have a lesser chance of going bald. When the hair is short, sebum has no medium for transfer and stays on top of the head, blocking the flow. Longer hair allows for easier excretion of the sebum. In this light, the fact that baldness is a lot more pronounced in man, rather than women fits perfectly.

Might explain why rock stars and women are less prone to baldness!

It really doesn't. The reason why baldness is more frequent with men than women is because we have different hormones and the testosterone level in men is a lot higher than in women. Like I said, it's one of the many examples of the beginning of those stupid baldness myths. One person makes a few wild guesses and people go "oyeah right, I know a guy... and oyeah those rockstars... it must be true!". It's like those people claiming you're going bald from wearing a cap or shampooing because they have an uncle who's going bald and... etc..

Even if hair-length is a factor it won't be nearly important enough to be decisive.

baldozer
04-06-2013, 09:27 AM
It really doesn't. The reason why baldness is more frequent with men than women is because we have different hormones and the testosterone level in men is a lot higher than in women. Like I said, it's one of the many examples of the beginning of those stupid baldness myths. One person makes a few wild guesses and people go "oyeah right, I know a guy... and oyeah those rockstars... it must be true!". It's like those people claiming you're going bald from wearing a cap or shampooing because they have an uncle who's going bald and... etc..

Even if hair-length is a factor it won't be nearly important enough to be decisive.

My bad, ofcourse women don't have that much DHT, so that is why they don't go bald, but it does fascinate me why most of the rock stars don't go bald, even when their fathers are bald as a cue, for example, Mick Jagger and Paul McCartney!

gmonasco
04-06-2013, 10:41 AM
but it does fascinate me why most of the rock stars don't go bald, even when their fathers are bald as a cue, for example, Mick Jagger and Paul McCartney!

That's simply a form of confirmation bias -- picking out a few high-profile examples while ignoring the plethora of counter-examples:

http://www.nme.com/photos/next/121844/1/2

http://www2.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle/Features/en-us/bald-is-beautiful-420.aspx

Morbo
04-06-2013, 10:50 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-hrtsLkJCGmA/TYA8-WKKLtI/AAAAAAAAAT0/5vFKwtQXJ6Q/s1600/Moby%252B1.jpg

Head-prize for the first person who can tell me which famous music artist this dapper gent is.

gmonasco
04-06-2013, 10:57 AM
Easy one -- Moby.

gmonasco
04-06-2013, 11:01 AM
Also in the No-Hair Club For Men: Ringo Starr

Ringo has kept his hair close-cropped for many years, but he looks to me like he has a pretty good head of hair for a man in his 70's -- it's obviously thinner than it used to be, but I wouldn't describe him as bald or balding.

baldozer
04-06-2013, 11:30 AM
That's simply a form of confirmation bias -- picking out a few high-profile examples while ignoring the plethora of counter-examples:

http://www.nme.com/photos/next/121844/1/2

http://www2.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle/Features/en-us/bald-is-beautiful-420.aspx

Interesting articles, what more, the Metal God a.k.a Mr. Rob Halford himself is bald :D!

burtandernie
04-06-2013, 08:45 PM
I think androgens are basically 98 percent the cause of MPB. Castrated men prove that androgens directly cause MPB and from what I generally see it seems to be true. No other theory or pathway as of now has proof it stops MPB other then androgens. It explains why most older men with no facial hair generally have little or no hair loss and men with higher androgens generally go bald as they age. Most men I think are susceptible to androgens so its men with none or very little that keep NW 0 to old age like koreans and asians.
You can debate the best way to stop androgens, but I dont see much room to argue their importance. You can theorycraft about the many other things involved in MPB downstream of androgens or how important testosterone itself is, but overall they are huge factor.

Iambannana
04-08-2013, 10:09 AM
long hair? pffft my hair has been long my entire life and its disappearing pretty quick mate