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  • carl1983
    Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 38

    4,571 grafts with Dr Wong

    Hi,

    I'm 28 years old and my story goes something like this: I began to notice my hairline was receding at roughly 21. I say "roughly" because I had always had a high hairline and so I'm not 100% sure at what point denial gave way to reality...having a vast expanse of forehead to begin with allows one to be *ahem* generous in appraising the situation for a while. However, over the next few years, it became increasingly obvious that I was thinning down the middle of my head and when photos revealed a similarly sparse crown, I knew I couldn't just bury my head in the sand (although that's literally what I felt like doing).
    This is where I need to point out, as many others have done before me, that this website was an absolute godsend as both a research tool and a source of motivation to accomplish my goals. I have friends who have full heads of hair and friends who have shaved heads. Thats it. I know literally nobody (in and around my age group) who is simply thinning, so conversations about hair loss were non-existant. That's what made this site so great, it assured me of the fact that there were huge numbers of men out there actively fighting their hair loss and that it was possible.
    Also, as I mentioned, this forum is a great research tool. After careful consideration of the many names and options that crop up on here on a regular basis, the stand out candidate, for me, was Hasson & Wong. Reviews were consistently excellent and any results I had seen, either on their website or via peoples personal stories, were extremely impressive.
    Having swapped the email equivalents of war & peace with Christina and Daria, I was booked in for July 18th with Dr Wong and made the long trek from Ireland to Vancouver last week.
    On the day of my surgery, I met Dr Wong and we went through the plan of action. Prior to this he had told me that he felt that 4000 grafts were neccessary, but this was slightly above my budget and we agreed on a smaller number of grafts. I was perfectly happy with this situation. I thought I'd get my hairline taken care of and add some density to other areas. If it wasn't enough for total coverage, I could live with it. However on the day, Dr Wong told me that after coming all that way, he was going to give me what I needed, but at the price arranged. Within two minutes of meeting him, I'd already been completely confident in my choice of clinic, but this was the icing on the cake.It was an extremely generous gesture on his part and I'm eternally grateful.
    Dr Wong numbed me up and the fun began. There was a Dr visiting from Spain and it was a really interesting experience for me to listen to them talking shop and comparing techniques while Dr Wong took the strip.
    In the end, he got 4,571 grafts....4,571! To say I was ecstatic would be an understatement, but there was no time for back slapping, now it was slit time.
    Dr Wong made the incisions (completely pain free) and then the techs got going. These girls are great and were always aware of the fact that it's a long and sometimes uncomfortable experience. They made sure I got a break whenever I needed it and always made sure that I knew I could get up and stretch or take a bathroom break at any time. For the most part though, I spent my afternoon watching movies and taking naps. All in all, the whole process took about ten hours.
    After a surprisingly good nights sleep, I went back to the clinic the next day to have my hair washed (which feels really, really good after a long day of cutting and planting) and also got a snazzy new hair cut from Carmen, which gave me less of a kevin from "The Office" look. I also got everything I'd need post-op (antibiotics, shampoo etc.) and had a chat with Joe.
    Then it was back to Dublin and I have to say, I forgot this piece of advice from spex: Bring one of those horseshoe travel pillows! It would have made my trip a lot more tolerable.
    So now I'm exactly seven days on from my HT. I had some swelling around my forehead and the bridge of my nose from days 3-5, which has now completely gone. I'm getting occasional bouts of intense itchiness, but nothing unmanageable and I'm finding it's easiest to sleep when propped up on 2/3 pillows. Other than that, everything is good so far, the redness has calmed down and I've had no pain whatsoever since the surgery.
    The whole process was made made very comfortable by Dr Wong and all his staff, I really can't thank them enough for the care they showed and the interest they took in me as an individual rather than "another patient". It's a long flight, a big expense and the culmination of many years of stress to arrive at Dr Wong's doorstep and I think he and everyone there really understand that and do their level best to make sure you go home feeling positive about your experience with them.
    As I said, this website has been invaluable to me and rather than just take what I need and run, I'm hoping that my story can be of use to someone else in the future. I'll be posting pictures after I take my staples out and then every month, but for now here's a few before and afters, thanks for reading (and helping along the way!)
    Carl



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  • Winston
    Moderator
    • Mar 2009
    • 943

    #2
    It’s great to read posts like this. Congratulations on your procedure and thank you for coming back and sharing your experience for the benefit of other BTT users.

    By the way, you look great!

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    • carl1983
      Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 38

      #3
      Thanks Winston, now the waiting game begins!

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      • carl1983
        Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 38

        #4
        So, getting your staples out is no fun...who knew?
        2 weeks on now and I'm becoming quite attached to these new little hairs...breaking up will be hard to do, but inevitable, I know.
        Hopefully now that I'm staple free, sleeping will be a little easier. It's actually become more uncomfortable as the days go by. Not painful as such, just awkward. That and the scabs are the only unpleasant after effects so far.
        Scabs started forming heavily at around day 9. I shampoo'd my scalp for a little longer than usual and massaged slightly more aggressively. I'm basically scab free now, other than my crown which is being stubborn.
        Anyway, I know there's not much progress from last time, but here's a few 2 week post surgery pics.

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        • HelpROGER
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 120

          #5
          Originally posted by carl1983
          So, getting your staples out is no fun...who knew?
          2 weeks on now and I'm becoming quite attached to these new little hairs...breaking up will be hard to do, but inevitable, I know.
          Hopefully now that I'm staple free, sleeping will be a little easier. It's actually become more uncomfortable as the days go by. Not painful as such, just awkward. That and the scabs are the only unpleasant after effects so far.
          Scabs started forming heavily at around day 9. I shampoo'd my scalp for a little longer than usual and massaged slightly more aggressively. I'm basically scab free now, other than my crown which is being stubborn.
          Anyway, I know there's not much progress from last time, but here's a few 2 week post surgery pics.

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          Looks great! So how does it look now?

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          • carl1983
            Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 38

            #6
            Originally posted by HelpROGER
            Looks great! So how does it look now?
            I'm losing a few of the new hairs here and there, but not in the way I had expected. I kind of thought they'd come out en masse over the space of a couple of days, but it's really just one or two every now and again. Anyway, not much different now than I was when I last posted. It'll be four weeks on Wednesay, so I'll take a few photos tonight/tomorrow and get them up.

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            • carl1983
              Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 38

              #7
              **4 week update**

              So, four weeks on and the first significant amount of hair came out in the shower last night. I'd been secretly hoping that I would be some sort of miracle patient and experience no shed of my new found friends, but, alas, the best laid plans...
              Although it wasn't the instant quick fix I had been hoping for, removing the staples has made sleeping an awful lot more comfortable. Truth be told, I had maybe 3/4 days afterwards that were still a little uncomfortable, but am now feeling back to normal. Also, the tightness around my donor area has gone, as have the last sensations of numbness I had been feeling around the recipient area.
              I've ventured out on very short missions without a hat on too. Not because I'm 100% comfortable with how my hair looks, but just to let my hat know who's boss every now and again...we'll see how that works out as this shed continues!
              Anyway, here's a few 4 week post surgery pictures. I tried to get some different lighting conditions as I felt a few of the pictures might have been a bit flattering when there has, in fact, been some loss/thinning at this stage. Also, I'll let my hair grow out a bit so that it's easer to start showing pictures of my scar next time I update.

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              • VictimOfDHT
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 748

                #8
                Looking good, man. In a few months I think you'll be much happier. Dr. Wong is a good doctor, I know. Their price per graft is pretty good compared with other well known doctors.

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                • carl1983
                  Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 38

                  #9
                  Originally posted by VictimOfDHT
                  Looking good, man. In a few months I think you'll be much happier. Dr. Wong is a good doctor, I know. Their price per graft is pretty good compared with other well known doctors.
                  I'm not worried. I know the results Dr Wong gets...I just have to try and avoid analysing my hair every single day!
                  I had a big, big shed a day or two after posting those pictures, but what's left seems to be fairly stable now.
                  Yeah, their prices are very fair. Certainly in comparison to Ireland. There's pretty much ONE guy with a decent reputation here, but he's charging 10 euro per graft, for strip! And to be honest, his results are pretty average compared to H&W or the other well known North American doctors.

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                  • nh 610 a
                    Junior Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 9

                    #10
                    Looking good Carl1983 how did you find the overall experience of traveling to and from Vancouver I'm from Ireland too its a heck of a track but I guess its worth it . As far as being on meds how is that working for you I've found it near impossible to get my hands on propeci. Best of luck with the growing btw.

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                    • carl1983
                      Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 38

                      #11
                      Originally posted by nh 610 a
                      Looking good Carl1983 how did you find the overall experience of traveling to and from Vancouver I'm from Ireland too its a heck of a track but I guess its worth it . As far as being on meds how is that working for you I've found it near impossible to get my hands on propeci. Best of luck with the growing btw.
                      Cheers for that mate.
                      It's a long trek, no doubt about it, but the whole HT industry is so tricky to negotiate that when you find a clinic and a doctor that you're comfortable with, the peace of mind FAR outweighs any inconvenience of travelling.
                      The whole experience was really positive to be honest.
                      As for the meds, no side effects thank god and I got a prescription for fin when I was in vancouver that has a couple of refills on it, so I won't have to worry about that for a good while.

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                      • NeedHairASAP
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 1410

                        #12
                        Originally posted by carl1983
                        So, getting your staples out is no fun...who knew?
                        2 weeks on now and I'm becoming quite attached to these new little hairs...breaking up will be hard to do, but inevitable, I know.
                        Hopefully now that I'm staple free, sleeping will be a little easier. It's actually become more uncomfortable as the days go by. Not painful as such, just awkward. That and the scabs are the only unpleasant after effects so far.
                        Scabs started forming heavily at around day 9. I shampoo'd my scalp for a little longer than usual and massaged slightly more aggressively. I'm basically scab free now, other than my crown which is being stubborn.
                        Anyway, I know there's not much progress from last time, but here's a few 2 week post surgery pics.

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                        interesting. i had an HST procedure with Dr. Gho. I'm on day 8 and You can hardly tell I had surgery.The last of some small crust is naturally starting to fall off. I should be able to go in public by day 10-11 and have nobody even know I had surgery. My biggest issue is the hairs regenerating in the back are a little sore breaking through. That isn't bad at all though.

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                        • VictimOfDHT
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 748

                          #13
                          I understand that they shave the back of the head to do an HST (or FUE), what do you guys do right after the surgery? Or, what CAN you do to cover up the donor site until the hair is long enough ? I had FUTs in the past and the idea of getting the back of my head shaved is the only thing that's scaring me about HSTs/FUEs.

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                          • carl1983
                            Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 38

                            #14
                            **2 months**

                            Well, it's been two months since my transplant with H&W and I'm approaching something resembling my pre-op appearance. There's still a little redness around one side of my hairline and there's certainly been some shock loss, but all in all I'm comfortable enough with it that, weather permitting, I go hat free most days.
                            A couple of the transplanted hairs in my hairline survived the big shed a few weeks back and have been growing normally. Nothing significant, but it's a bit of a confidence booster and a reminder of what's, hopefully, to come. Also, I know it's way too soon to start hoping for growth, but I've been finding the tiniest traces of dark stubble just behind my hairline...which has completely destroyed the "Don't look in the mirror everyday" policy I had been (feebly) trying to adhere to.
                            I've got a lot going on between now and christmas, which I think is going to be a blessing in terms of taking my mind off my hair. I had a pretty quiet couple of months since the HT and that made it very easy to slip into 24/7 hair analysis mode...which, most on here know, is a great way to put the whole process into slow motion.
                            Apologies for the pictures, they're not great quality. I fiddled around with my camera and lost whatever setting had been working for me before...will try harder for next time!

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                            • carl1983
                              Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 38

                              #15
                              ** 3 month update **

                              Well, the no doubt feverishly anticipated, 3 month update is upon us.
                              This has officially been the LONGEST 3 months of my life and despite all the sound advice from people here and elsewhere, I have tortured myself on a daily basis with forensic examinations of my head.
                              Not so much in the last couple of weeks though and that's because I'm finally 100% confident that there's nothing strange looking about my hair anymore (well, no stranger than before the HT), so I'm not agonising over whether certain situations still require a hat, or if I'm likely to be in extremely close proximity to anyone whos eyes might wander above eye level.
                              I don't think the pictures really do it justice, but there is certainly some growth along the hairline and I can feel (and see, on inspection) early growth throughout the recipient area....that being said, my crown is still pretty sparse, but 3 months is a little premature to be concerned about that.
                              I took a couple of pictures of my scar this time too. No issues on that front. No itchiness or pain and I regularly buzz down to a 3 blade without it being in any way noticeable (although it's a bit longer in the scar pictures, simply to facilitate lifting the hair with a comb).
                              Hoping the updates will be a bit more significant as each month passes from now on, but here's where I'm at now (last picture is with flash):

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