Replicel results released on yahoo

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  • Tracy C
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 3125

    #31
    Originally posted by Follicle Death Row
    Replicel's treatment is clearly not.
    You are thinking short term and looking for negatives. It takes a long time and many hair cycles for a human hair to transform from vellus to terminal. Longer than six months. We will know a lot more when we can see what this regrowth looks like a year after it started growing.

    One notion everyone needs to get into their heads is that treating hair loss takes a long time. The speed of which is at the mercy of how long it takes a human hair to develop and transform into a normal terminal hair. This is naturally not a quick process. It is a painfully slow process. The key to kick start the process is to get the hair growing. Replicel has done that.

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    • JJJJrS
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2012
      • 643

      #32
      Not the most inspiring results at all. An increase of 3% terminal hairs is not much better than a placebo like others have pointed out. I'm not even sure if that's proof of any hair growth considering the natural cycling of hair follicles.

      Most of us weren't excited with Histogen's and Aderan's results and Replicel in comparison is even more underwhelming. It's very clear that Replicel is a big work in progress and won't be releasing anything to market any time soon. I think they're going to have a lot of problems with funding going forward also.

      I think they did a big disservice to everybody by hyping their treatment as a possible cure and paying websites and analysts to shamelessly promote their stock.

      Before we get excited, I think we all have to demand proof that these treatments work (mouses don't count). That includes Replicel, Histogen, Aderans or Gho.

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      • Supersixx
        Member
        • Mar 2012
        • 49

        #33
        So there you have it...................they couldn't even out do ROGAINE .

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        • Supersixx
          Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 49

          #34
          OMG .Their stock is tanking! Lol

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          • Tracy C
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 3125

            #35
            Pull your heads out of your butts. Please. You have no idea how stupid and closed minded you are being.

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            • neversaynever
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 648

              #36
              It's a poor result.

              Because it's a cell based treatment, it's poor. There is no ****tail to play with, nothing to tinker, except increase the number of injected cells.

              It certainly won't do for us what it did for mice.

              The only positive is that there MIGHT be a dramatic increase in hair growth at 12 months.

              Please do note, while they insist phase 1 is about safety primarily, way back they said it's about safety AND effectiveness.

              I don't think they will grow new hairs at a rate that can be viable for a treatment. Replicels only hope now is to aim for 20% increase in terminal hairs by migrating cells into existing follicles.

              You might laugh, but Dr Gho is the closest we have to a viable solution. He and Johoda) have proven that those upper DS cells can form an entire follicle.

              Unfortunately, I think his damn patent prevents anyone from taking it to the next level.

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              • Follicle Death Row
                Senior Member
                • May 2011
                • 1066

                #37
                Well Jahoda showed implanting dermal papillae can form follicles and that's what Aderans are doing so maybe there's hope there. Also, while I remain skeptical of Dr. Gho, GCUK83 had the hair stem cell injection process where only the dermal papillae are implanted and that defintely has grown in. So can you multiply DP, inject and get growth? Yes. No idea why Replicel came up so short. I know they use DSC but still.

                Some one mentioned harvesting human hair from hair grown from human stem cells on mice. Could that work? If so I'll take a 100 mice please.

                If I'm honest, I did expect Replicel to get 20%.

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                • DepressedByHairLoss
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 876

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Delphi
                  I can’t stand the negativity and mean spirits that some people on this forum have. It’s like they have no soul and want these treatments to fail.
                  Amen to that. I totally hear you, Delphi. It seems that a lot of people get so excited about spouting negativity with regards to new hair loss treatments/cures. It really is like they want these treatments to fail. I knew I should've have checked this topic because all I would see was negativity but curiosity unfortunately got the better of me.

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                  • Tracy C
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 3125

                    #39
                    Originally posted by DepressedByHairLoss
                    I knew I should've have checked this topic because all I would see was negativity but curiosity unfortunately got the better of me.
                    I can see the positive in their results. Maybe that is only because I choose to look for the positives. The positives are there - and you can see them if you choose to do so.

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                    • DepressedByHairLoss
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 876

                      #40
                      Originally posted by DepressedByHairLoss
                      Amen to that. I totally hear you, Delphi. It seems that a lot of people get so excited about spouting negativity with regards to new hair loss treatments/cures. It really is like they want these treatments to fail. I knew I should've have checked this topic because all I would see was negativity but curiosity unfortunately got the better of me.
                      I knew I "shouldn't" have checked this topic, that is. I typed the wrong thing.

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                      • Follicle Death Row
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2011
                        • 1066

                        #41
                        I was actually looking forward to the results expecting some improvement on finasteride but ah sure not to worry. I got a great laugh out of the idea of harvesting the human hairs grown on the mouse recently. Gimme 'em, I wants 'em.

                        However, maybe just maybe it could be a treatment for the rich to keep what you got forever.

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                        • neversaynever
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 648

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Follicle Death Row
                          Well Jahoda showed implanting dermal papillae can form follicles and that's what Aderans are doing so maybe there's hope there. Also, while I remain skeptical of Dr. Gho, GCUK83 had the hair stem cell injection process where only the dermal papillae are implanted and that defintely has grown in. So can you multiply DP, inject and get growth? Yes. No idea why Replicel came up so short. I know they use DSC but still.

                          Some one mentioned harvesting human hair from hair grown from human stem cells on mice. Could that work? If so I'll take a 100 mice please.

                          If I'm honest, I did expect Replicel to get 20%.
                          Gho doesnt inject DP cells.

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                          • Follicle Death Row
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 1066

                            #43
                            Originally posted by neversaynever
                            Gho doesnt inject DP cells.
                            What's the HSI rather than HST technique then? I'm probably not allowed link it but I'll give it a go.



                            Under hair stem cell transplantation, there's a piece on hair stem cell injection. I'm not entirely sure what he's supposed to be doing?

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                            • ccmethinning
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 326

                              #44
                              I really want to know if Spencer is still doing an interview with RepliCel despite the bad results. And if he is, when will this interview be available.

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                              • cleverusername
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 214

                                #45
                                Aderans got better results...

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