Saw Palmetto Shed, good news or not?

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    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 1527

    #31
    Originally posted by chrisis
    Ok, so other supplements must be used with saw palmetto for it to work? This is SO complicated, and I don't think I'm exactly stupid
    no dude it's just Saw Palmetto and Beta Sitosterol...


    Originally posted by chrisis
    A little joke I read on another forum. What is Saw Palmetto? I've seen Saw 1,2 and 3, but not Saw Palmetto?

    A little cheesy but I lol'd.

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    • StressedToTheBald
      Inactive
      • Jan 2012
      • 452

      #32
      Originally posted by chrisis
      Ok, so other supplements must be used with saw palmetto for it to work? This is SO complicated, and I don't think I'm exactly stupid

      However, if that's true, it would also explain why there are fewer reports of saw palmetto working - people aren't using it properly...
      I don't think they're crucial, I use some of them anyway, but I don't really think SP only works if combined with these few supplements.

      Originally posted by chrisis
      A little joke I read on another forum. What is Saw Palmetto? I've seen Saw 1,2 and 3, but not Saw Palmetto?
      A little cheesy but I lol'd.
      Thats a good one. Which reminded me, JigSaw was bald too !

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      • Tracy C
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 3125

        #33
        Originally posted by chrisis
        Ok, so other supplements must be used with saw palmetto for it to work? This is SO complicated, and I don't think I'm exactly stupid
        You are not stupid.

        The "studies" StressedToTheBald keeps linking to have no merit. However there is one study he never has linked to on a specific Saw Palmetto complex that does have some merit. Though as with many such studies the number of participants in that study was much too small and the duration of the study was much too short. This is the specific study that some doctors are referring to when talking about using Saw Palmetto as a possible substitution for Finasteride. It is important to note that the study was on a "complex", not straight Saw Palmetto.

        Here in the U.S., a vitamin company called Nature's Bounty sells a Saw Palmetto complex that matches the specific blend that was tested in that study. I do not know if Nature's Bounty products are available in the U.K., so here is a link to a PDF file of the label for that product which shows the list of imgredients.



        Keep in mind that if you choose this path, you will need to take it as directed on the label for at least 12 full months to determine if it working for you. Also please bear in mind that if any natural product actually could slow down, stop or reverse hereditary hair loss, it would likely have the same side effect profile as Finasteride.

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        • Tracy C
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2011
          • 3125

          #34
          Originally posted by chrisis
          It's certainly not something I'd have heard about without researching it in depth.
          If it actually worked to slow down, stop or reverse hereditary hair loss, you would not need to research it because everyone would know about it.



          Originally posted by chrisis
          You could say the same about many hair loss treatments, since none are 100% effective.
          Nothing works for everyone. That's just the way the cookie crumbles. However, Minoxidil works for most people who use it as directed and Finasteride works for most people who use it as directed. This far, natural products have not worked for anyone. There is no positive feedback supporting natural hair loss remedies at all. None, zilch, naddah... You can site many possible reasons for this but the simplest reason is usually the correct one.

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          • OO7
            Junior Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 1

            #35
            Hi each and all, I thought I would add my "two peneth" regarding Saw Palmetto & Beta Sitosterol, I was up until about 5 months ago taking 320 mg of Saw Palmetto & also 375 mg of Beta Sitosterol, but stopped due to it never regrown any NEW HAIR, however since I stopped my hair on my crown has thinned considerably, wheather this is just coincidence or wheather the combination of the two or maybe one was keeping DHT levels down in my crown I don't know, I also have noticed that my frontal hair has become thinner, needless to say I am back on Saw Palmetto & Beta Sitosterol, I am thinking of trying some Kirklands minoxidil 5% also, my brother used it and got quite impressive results on his crown,

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            • 3rdDecade
              Member
              • Apr 2012
              • 43

              #36
              Hi all, I would like to share my opinion on proceedings, so if you don't mind take this as a pinch of salt.

              Considering Saw palmetto and Finasteride (Propecia) both lower DHT levels. One must think even though DHT is lowered in different ways compared to each medication, the outlining result is that DHT has been lowered, therefore allowing follicules to breath.

              I think there has NOT been enough investigation into Saw Palmetto, primary reason for this being is that it's such a widely cultivated product, the profits involved for pharmaceutical companies would be minimal if that. The main goal of pharmaceuticals is to make money, scraping through FDA examinations at minimum expense is what there best at, our safety is a second priority.

              I believe Saw palmetto works, atleast at slowing down progressive MPB.

              All this talk about "If Saw Palmetto works everyone would know about", is B*llsh*t. Saw palmetto is native to northern america. Native americans have the lowest MPB percentage in the world.

              A theory of using DHT inhibitors (Propecia, Saw Palmetto etc....) to supress DHT can swing the pendulum towards Androgen Receptor UP-REGULATION, which of course will lead to further balding.

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              • 3rdDecade
                Member
                • Apr 2012
                • 43

                #37
                Originally posted by OO7
                Hi each and all, I thought I would add my "two peneth" regarding Saw Palmetto & Beta Sitosterol, I was up until about 5 months ago taking 320 mg of Saw Palmetto & also 375 mg of Beta Sitosterol, but stopped due to it never regrown any NEW HAIR, however since I stopped my hair on my crown has thinned considerably, wheather this is just coincidence or wheather the combination of the two or maybe one was keeping DHT levels down in my crown I don't know, I also have noticed that my frontal hair has become thinner, needless to say I am back on Saw Palmetto & Beta Sitosterol, I am thinking of trying some Kirklands minoxidil 5% also, my brother used it and got quite impressive results on his crown,
                Read my theory above.

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                • win200
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 420

                  #38
                  Old thread, but I'll resurrect. I did something slightly stupid: I went on SP about twenty days before getting a transplant. (A doctor I consulted with but didn't use for the procedure recommended it without any discussion of hormones, side effects, etc.) The problem is that I've been having some increased shedding after the surgery (I'm at 9 weeks), and I just assumed that it was shock loss. But now that I've read that SP may cause shedding, I'm not sure what to chalk the shedding up to. And I feel trapped; do I keep taking the saw palmetto (160mg daily), or drop it? I hate that I have no idea what caused the forelock thinness I've got now, and no clue whether it will regrow.

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