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Denverguy, what are the average costs per graft ?
Here is some additional info on ARTAS as well, I may have seen it further up but if not here it is again: http://www.hsccolorado.com/ArtasSystem.aspxComment
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Appreciate the info. Although still way above my budget, it is more favourable than high end European prices. If I ever manage to save up enough, who knows..Comment
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Yea, it's an investment for sure but when it comes to a physical change to your looks you just have to be really careful man. I'd suggest doing a little at a time if that is more cost effective. It's something you can do over several years and that way you can break the cost up if that makes it easier. Let me know if you have any other questions about the procedure with ARTAS, FUE or the strip method-I have had all 3 over the past 3-4 years.Comment
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Yea, it's an investment for sure but when it comes to a physical change to your looks you just have to be really careful man. I'd suggest doing a little at a time if that is more cost effective. It's something you can do over several years and that way you can break the cost up if that makes it easier. Let me know if you have any other questions about the procedure with ARTAS, FUE or the strip method-I have had all 3 over the past 3-4 years.
One question please, You said You've done all three methods - FUT too ? If I ever do it, I'd never accept FUT, as I am very prone to scarring ! How did You cope and do You feel FUE and ARTAS FUE are much better and advanced ? I feel that FUT doesn't belong in the 21st century - most surgeons do it - but I believe not because its better, but because fewer surgeons have the skill for FUE. FUE is much more complicated, and for results to be right - surgeon has to be an artist ?Comment
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I hear You. It is true. I mean it is once in a lifetime procedure and if I ever save up to do it, I want the best surgeon in the world.. one has to be careful when making a choice. Also, thats interesting idea about breaking up the cost in time, although I'm not sure if small amount of grafts is worth it.. I guess it takes many grafts for change to be visible.
One question please, You said You've done all three methods - FUT too ? If I ever do it, I'd never accept FUT, as I am very prone to scarring ! How did You cope and do You feel FUE and ARTAS FUE are much better and advanced ? I feel that FUT doesn't belong in the 21st century - most surgeons do it - but I believe not because its better, but because fewer surgeons have the skill for FUE. FUE is much more complicated, and for results to be right - surgeon has to be an artist ?Comment
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Well that strip method is actually FUT.. cutting on the back of the head.
I'm very prone to scarring and would never do that method.
Tell me - how would You compare FUE and ARTAS FUE ? You said FUE was manual, how does ARTAS work - I thought only scanning or something is backed by tech, the rest of process, implementation of hair is done by hand ?Comment
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Well that strip method is actually FUT.. cutting on the back of the head.
I'm very prone to scarring and would never do that method.
Tell me - how would You compare FUE and ARTAS FUE ? You said FUE was manual, how does ARTAS work - I thought only scanning or something is backed by tech, the rest of process, implementation of hair is done by hand ?Comment
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Hey there, yea I apologize, I have had the Strip FUT, but the scarring is not noticeable. By Manual FUE I meant Dr Harris has a hand tool which he invented that I have had used on me. ARTAS uses the same type of tool but it is laser guided and attached to the machine by a robotic arm and the ARTAS system selects the grafts that are the best for transplant by zeroing in on them in high resolution, selecting them and then harvesting them. The grafts are collected in some sort of reservoir in the system and then technicians take the grafts and manually insert them. Dr Harris selects where he wants them to go and he inserts a small incision in the spots he wants them planted. Then the techs take them and put them in. The ARTAS is was faster than the manual FUE tool. Dr Harris also watches closely and plays a role in where the ARTAS takes the hair (the donor region is selected, shaved down and the ARTAS stays in that area). So the entire process is supported by tech in the harvesting and selection of the grafts, then the grafts are manually inserted by technicians. Make sense?
Sounds very cool, robotic arm selecting the donor hairs, yeah that must be more precise and perfect as the machine has the power to scan what should be the best match.
One more thing, both ARTAS and regular FUE - its the technicians who put the hairs in ? Would there be a difference if doctor himself was doing that ? Or its simply a process that doesn't not require surgeon's skill ? I think its the practise worldwide that technicians put in the hairs, not the surgeons, although I don't understand why - I'd feel safer knowing that surgeon does everything, having more skill than technician and so on. Otherwise it would feel like surgeon only supervises the process. I'd appreciate Your thoughts regarding this issue.Comment
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Hey, many thanks for explanation, it means a lot to hear it first hand.
Sounds very cool, robotic arm selecting the donor hairs, yeah that must be more precise and perfect as the machine has the power to scan what should be the best match.
One more thing, both ARTAS and regular FUE - its the technicians who put the hairs in ? Would there be a difference if doctor himself was doing that ? Or its simply a process that doesn't not require surgeon's skill ? I think its the practise worldwide that technicians put in the hairs, not the surgeons, although I don't understand why - I'd feel safer knowing that surgeon does everything, having more skill than technician and so on. Otherwise it would feel like surgeon only supervises the process. I'd appreciate Your thoughts regarding this issue.Comment
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Appreciate Your answers and experience very much.
All right then, yeah I guess thats the procedure.. surgeon makes small cuts and technicians put in the grafts. These incisions - they are all made by the surgeon ? I asume it doesn't hurt at all, local anesthetics must kick in before he starts..Comment
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Appreciate Your answers and experience very much.
All right then, yeah I guess thats the procedure.. surgeon makes small cuts and technicians put in the grafts. These incisions - they are all made by the surgeon ? I asume it doesn't hurt at all, local anesthetics must kick in before he starts..Comment
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That sounds good, if I ever find the money I'd choose FUE or ARTAS, never FUT. I wouldn't do FUT even it was free, I am very prone to scarring and with FUT there has to be a scar even if it is less noticable. For now though FUE and ARTAS, they're both still all very expensive for me, even in devided sessions. I unfortunately have the bad luck of living in one of the poorest countries in the world, so my budget fades completely in comparison to what people in the West can afford. Fingers crossed, maybe at some point in the future.
Tell me, as You have done multiple sessions - what is the least number of grafts You went for and seen visible results after ? I know people go with 1k, 2k or 4k grafts and that pretty much restores full density... but would there be a visible difference in the receding hairlines or balding crown - if covered with under 1000 grafts - lets say 500 or 800 ?
At this point I am trying to somewhat increase my density of hair by using natural alternatives to propecia - it will probably take many months to see if there is improvement - but if there is and if I decide to have transplant at some point in the future - it would be cheaper if I needed less number of grafts to begin with.
Full hair density is the only and final goal. When I see people with full and straight front hairline and no balding in the back.. now thats how hair should look like. I'm barely in my 30s now, and I'm already Norwood 4 or even 5 which makes me feel like 80 years old man..Comment
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Tell me, as You have done multiple sessions - what is the least number of grafts You went for and seen visible results after ? I know people go with 1k, 2k or 4k grafts and that pretty much restores full density... but would there be a visible difference in the receding hairlines or balding crown - if covered with under 1000 grafts - lets say 500 or 800 ?
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for density 500-800 would be a visual difference depending on the amont of loss in the area-you should probably ask your surgeon though, I am not a Dr, just a patient, I have had a procedure for density only that was between 800-1000, you can absolutely see a difference. I now have a full head of hair that is thick and to my original hairline, all I need now is a little more density on my crown in a very small area and that will be it for me. Good luck to you and I hope that you reach your goal!
What stage on Norwood were You before all procedures btw ? Also do You take any drugs to maintain Your DHT non-resistant hairs ? I hope those haven't started to fall out in time.Comment
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