Is HASCI for real?

[Follicle Death Row]

But anyway, this is ridiculous. Like I said, there is NO damn reason why we still don't have a 1000% definite answer to this Gho debate thing.

There is one reason: if it is in fact legit who the hell would go for a traditional FUT or FUE. Now I can't say if it's real or not but that is definitely something to consider. If it is real why would the other docs go "yeah it is really working and you should go to Gho rather than let me ravage your donor with a good old smiley scar." You could say that they have a moral and ethical obligation but that would be naive thinking that this is the case in this industry. The docs are in this industry for the $$$.

I should think it is legitimate seeing as how open Dr. Gho is with the procedure, offering to demonstrate for other doctors.

Man I hate this industry, the wild west indeed.

[BMT]

Hey guys,

Could someone please post the link to where gho says he will train other docs?

Also - isn't his technique patented? Or Ghos technique can't be patented just like you can't patent fue?

[damielmillo]

I have my procedure date with Gho in MAY 2012. There is a lot of demand and he is given date for December 2012. I think something good is doing.
Recently saw the Dean Saunders procedure and this is a good sign. He is a NW6 and Gho is doing a good hairline, he will use the hair very short and the donor area must to be ok if really are donor regenaration, and he will do another 2 or 3 treatments.
I hope everything will be ok....the only cons that i find is the High price!!
Wait for your pictures.
Bye!!

[VictimOfDHT]

There is one reason: if it is in fact legit who the hell would go for a traditional FUT or FUE. Now I can't say if it's real or not but that is definitely something to consider. If it is real why would the other docs go "yeah it is really working and you should go to Gho rather than let me ravage your donor with a good old smiley scar." You could say that they have a moral and ethical obligation but that would be naive thinking that this is the case in this industry. The docs are in this industry for the $$$.

I should think it is legitimate seeing as how open Dr. Gho is with the procedure, offering to demonstrate for other doctors.

Man I hate this industry, the wild west indeed.

Do you know the percentage of people who don't know crap about anything in this industry ? Pretty much the majority of people -and even some so-called doctors- don't know much and whatever little stuff they know comes from hearsay. A lot of people have never heard of Dr. Gho. A lot of people haven't heard of any of the well-known doctors out there and that's why they end up in some butcher's chair. I've been on many hair loss sites and only recently did Dr.Gho come to my attention. I had no clue who he was or what all the debate was about. I say this and like I said I've been on these sites for some years now and I have a bunch of HTs behind me. Every now and then I see people who don't even know what a hair transplant is or at least how it's done. My own brother had no clue how HT is done. He thought doctors put hair from other people's heads into your own scalp! He actually used to think there were clinics that could REGROW hair and give a bald guy a full head of hair ! I'm just saying this to say that the only or the main reason why people aren't going to Gho is most likely because they have never heard of him. It's the same reason why some people in this day and age still get punch grafts at the hands of some butchers who claim to be HT doctors. The same reason why people spend billions of $$ on snake oils thinking that they actually work. So again, it's the lack of knowledge.
People are still getting FUTs even though they (FUTs) seem on their way out-hopefully. I'm sure some people still haven't heard of FUEs and that's why the only thing these people would do if they decide they want an HT is to do an FUT.

But seriously, do you really expect HT doctors to tell you to go to Gho since their own method is outdated now ? Dude, that would NEVER happen. Ethics are the last thing on most HT doctors' minds especially that HT is an elective surgery and has nothing to do with one's health. Most of these doctors are more than happy to take your money and that's all they care about. The problem with HT doctors -except for a few who actually try to research and invent and improve on the current HT methods- is that the way they see it, if your dough machine ain't broke don't fix it. So, as long as their dough machine is making them dough and people are willing -because of the lack of knowledge- to pay these doctors, they will never bother to learn about any new technology let alone pay $50000 to learn it.

Hopefully soon this will be behind us and Gho's -once it's proven 100%- becomes the standard but even then I guarantee you many people will still be getting FUTs not knowing that there's something better out there.

[gc83uk]

To be honest the only reason I went to Gho to begin with was for the donor regrowth. Having limited donor meant that this was my best hope.

But now, after the experience and assuming I get the results I'm hoping for, I will definitely be going there again. The whole thing was a breeze to be honest, I've felt more pain getting my blood taken, but I think that has more to do with how far FUE has come.

Best of luck to you damielmillo, how many are you having done. I hope you take plenty of before and after photos including your donor.

[Follicle Death Row]

But seriously, do you really expect HT doctors to tell you to go to Gho since their own method is outdated now ? Dude, that would NEVER happen. Ethics are the last thing on most HT doctors' minds especially that HT is an elective surgery and has nothing to do with one's health. Most of these doctors are more than happy to take your money and that's all they care about. The problem with HT doctors -except for a few who actually try to research and invent and improve on the current HT methods- is that the way they see it, if your dough machine ain't broke don't fix it. So, as long as their dough machine is making them dough and people are willing -because of the lack of knowledge- to pay these doctors, they will never bother to learn about any new technology let alone pay $50000 to learn it.

That's my point exactly.

[damielmillo]

Yes, guz, i am very anxious. I told to Marleen of HASCI if they can give me the treatment before MAY and i am now in a last minute list.
I will have 1600 grafts extracted but i want more, so when Dr Gho see my donor area in person we will see if he can extract more than 1600.
My idea is if everything is OK, go for another treatment 9 months later and view my recovery. They say that we can do a lot of procedures by the donor regrowth.
how is your donor? Are you seeing regrowth? You only have 700 grafts extracted, it is very difficult to see.
Why Dr Gho only extract 700 grafts?

[gc83uk]

It was only 700 because I was very dubious, I wanted to see if it worked basically before I spent big.

[damielmillo]

Ok, so the next time you can do a 1700 or more grafts procedure.
They are giving date for November 2012, if you want to do another treatment you should call quicly...

[BMT]

Its amazing that GHo was doing this proceedure in 2004, and people back then were asking the same questions. Can anybody show some good final results from Gho? Not just donor regeneration but first rate final transplant results? The ones on his site dont look world class to me.

I dont like bringing up old posts but this one is a bit of a worry...

http://www.************/hair-restora...-maastrich.htm

[RichardDawkins]

Hey gc yes its me Stevie.Dee

I quit hairsite for multiple reasons

1) Every Gho patient like you is handled like a criminal in a cross examination with a subtile tone of being accused as a liar

2) they dont intervent in bashing, flaming and personal attacks, but when you ask hard uestions about Armani, they delete all your postings etc

3) They censor words like scam and fraud but you can call other people the harshest names ever

4) provoking people like spanishdude are tolerated there while others who are sick and tired of his provoking manners get their posting priviledges restricted.

I really think gc that you should stick with this forum here, i mean people here can also be very harsh some times but most of the time we get our act together, even when no moderator is interfering because th fact that you can speak your mind here is a good one.

You can even criticise docs who are promoted here and they answer you, also they are not attacking Gho or hair multiplication. I dont know for sure but if i had to guess, i would say that docs who are represented here are much more open minded when it comes to HST and hair multiplication in general.

I mean come on, Armani does make a shitload of cash, and he is not answering questions from patients who ask about Ghos HST if hecould get in touch with Gho.

So everyone should think for himself and i have to agree with one poster here who said that the majority doenst even know anything about air transplants etc.

Thats a real fact, for example most people who go to Gho, think that donor regeneration is standard, yes they do because they may found the hasci before anything else. And when you tell them "No thats not a standard, a standard can be scars etc" their faces turn ashen white.

I mean how would you react if you go to a forum and tell everyone "hey i found this HSI and i got dono regrowth thats cool can i go to any other clinic to get the same because i dont know much about clinics at all"

And then someone tells you "Pal you only got lucky the rest of the industry is not like that"

I think i would definitely puke my brains out and get a breakdown because realizing that you are dancing on a thin line between good and bad decision can be devastating

PS: thats also one reason why i would never say to a patient " I told you so" when he had normal transplants before and then went to Gho and is happy and hates himelf for doing it the wrong way around before. Because thats what those patients dont need, they need encouragement for their HST decision

[didi]

He is booked out till end of 2012, wow, that is something.
You have to think whos got the most to lose if Gho is success?

FUE/FUT docs, this site and all other sites/forums would become thing of the past, there would be no need for ISHRS/IAHRS or any other association.
There are quite a few people who would lose money

Gho is either pathetic liar and very good at it since he is able to run clinics throughout europe OR he is legit;

All i wanna see full blown NW6 with full head of hair and then im sold 100%

[Follicle Death Row]

All i wanna see full blown NW6 with full head of hair and then im sold 100%

Same. This is what we're waiting for. Let's hope we see it.

[Tracy C]

All i wanna see full blown NW6 with full head of hair and then im sold 100%

I don't need to see something that drastic, but if any doctor is going to tell me that he needs to shave my head, he or she better have more than just one or two photos. I would also like to see photos of patients one and two years post op... Lots of them... It is one thing to shave a man’s head. It is something entirely different to shave a woman’s head.

Tracy i hope this will help you somehow

It does... I would like to see more photos. I would also like to read comments from other doctors about what Dr. Gho is claiming to be able to do. I would like to read in their own words why they haven't adopted his technique. These cash cow speculations are not working for me. If any doctor could improve their practice so dramatically, he or she would be crazy not to do so.

[RichardDawkins]

Tracy you punched a wasps nest big time with your statement :-)

Not all docs are calling Gho a liar, for example Dr Cole never said Gho is a scam or something because he also witnessed donor regrowth.

You know what Docs like Rassman say all the time

" We offer our patients proven transplants and we dont use treatments which have not been proven"

Wanna know a secret Tracy, they said the exact same words when Woods came up with FUE " FUE is not working" that was the statement.

Tracy i am really sorry but you will never ever witness in your lifetime that other surgeons will tell you the truth this way.

Just remember what happened when Dr Cole talked about donor regeneration in his experience......He was so hard attacked for those statements like no one else.

Patients who send emails to clinics get harshly attacked back big time.

Even with Cooley, Hitzig and Cole offering traditional transplants, at least they should be given credits for doing something else.

Also i have to say a lot of FUE surgeons right now, even if they have good results, should considerHST because it gives patients lesser downtime then even FUE.

Acell btw is a small step to decreasing downtime and scarring and provide mild regeneration (but its not a miracle)