help me guys , will fin loss its power ?

[coolforyou]

hi guys ,

I am taking fin for 8 months , but i am afraid whether fin will loss its power as the days goes , and has lot of side effects , so planning to switch from "fin" to "duras" .

so first thing is ,

1. is my idea is good idea ?
2. can i take fin for three days and duras for four days and slowly switch to duras fully ?
3. is there any one here really got good result from "duras" ?


please help me guys ...thanks in advance

[8868alex]

Hi

In the first instance, I would speak to a reputable doctor who will advise you based on your specific situation. However, I do have a few thoughts. Firstly, whilst you do not say whether or not you have positive results from Propecia, I'm assuming you have. 8 months is a very short time to have been on the drug. It takes 6 months to start seeing positive changes and it can take up to two years for it to show it's full potential. Don't forget that Dutasteride can only be prescribed off label and that the incidence of side effects will be more common as it has not been approved as a hair loss treatment yet. I would strongly advise that you revise your plan. Dutasteride should be a last resort and even then should only be considered in certain circumstances. Why would you want to change things if you are already responding well? Don't forget that you also have minoxidil, laser therapy, PRP and now Acell on the horizon. People will have vastly differing opinions on the above which are generally seen as adjunct therapies. I return to my initial point, see a doctor. Don't look for prescribing advice on a forum. Many (like myself) will offer what they consider to be positive advice, but I would box clever and get a proffessional assessment.

Good luck, I'm sure you will be fine.

[UK_]

I would speak to a doctor about this, if you are experiencing sides on Fin then Duras is many more times potent than Fin.

[coolforyou]

Hi

In the first instance, I would speak to a reputable doctor who will advise you based on your specific situation. However, I do have a few thoughts. Firstly, whilst you do not say whether or not you have positive results from Propecia, I'm assuming you have. 8 months is a very short time to have been on the drug. It takes 6 months to start seeing positive changes and it can take up to two years for it to show it's full potential. Don't forget that Dutasteride can only be prescribed off label and that the incidence of side effects will be more common as it has not been approved as a hair loss treatment yet. I would strongly advise that you revise your plan. Dutasteride should be a last resort and even then should only be considered in certain circumstances. Why would you want to change things if you are already responding well? Don't forget that you also have minoxidil, laser therapy, PRP and now Acell on the horizon. People will have vastly differing opinions on the above which are generally seen as adjunct therapies. I return to my initial point, see a doctor. Don't look for prescribing advice on a forum. Many (like myself) will offer what they consider to be positive advice, but I would box clever and get a proffessional assessment.

Good luck, I'm sure you will be fine.

I would speak to a doctor about this, if you are experiencing sides on Fin then Duras is many more times potent than Fin.

Thank you very much for you kindful and immediate reply 8868alex and UK,

Sorry that i didn't mention whether fin worked for me or not? .

By grace of god Jesus Christ, Fin really does worked for me , now i got full head hair , but affected hairs in the front and in the crown are thinner than the hairs that are in the sides , but still shredding is very less by grace of god .

Actually , i am staying in a city where Doctors still not aware of DHT factor and male pattern baldness . I went to the best doctors in my city , they have just suggested many tablets and many creams ,sampoo , i used it for 9 months , but no use . And i prayed my god Jesus Christ and god made me to understand the real factor of baldness , so i started taking generic fin , within three months it self i got good benefit , and my hair stopped falling and regrowth started , absolutely it is because of god jesus christ , because as per the research , fin will give synergistic effect only after a year that too along with MINOX , But i am not applying minox .

After taking fin , i faced "Erectile dysfunction(ED)" . And till now i am facing Erectile dysfunction(ED) , but slowly ED is getting reduced , and again my Erection is becoming normal ,so i am afraid whether fin is loosing its effectiveness .

that is why i am trying to switch from "Fin" to "Dutas" . or planing to take "fin" for three days and "dutas" for four days ,

so please advice me guys ...... i am in confused state

[8868alex]

Hi

If I read you correctly, are you saying that as you have had a reduction in the side effects, you are assuming that the potency / effectiveness of the drug is also diminishing?

Whilst I am at best an educated layman, I feel confident in saying that this is not the case. It is very typical for any side effects to wear off once your body acquaints itself with the drug. If I were you, I would sit back and see how you are at 1 year of usage. From what you say, you are a good responder and you are resolving any side effect issue. Mate, that is a result!!!

It is sometimes hard to believe that the outcome will be positive, I know this myself, but you seem to be right on track. Don't stress too much, just keep on doing waht you are doing. I'm from the UK where in terms of doctors, we have Bessam Farjo, or Feriduni in Belgium. You guys have 45+ doctors to choose from. I don't know where the nearest one to Detroit would be, put in Michagan.. Try Dr Tessler or look at this map...

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=31236

Seek out the experts. I'm sure they will put your mind at ease!!!

[coolforyou]

Hi

If I read you correctly, are you saying that as you have had a reduction in the side effects, you are assuming that the potency / effectiveness of the drug is also diminishing?

Whilst I am at best an educated layman, I feel confident in saying that this is not the case. It is very typical for any side effects to wear off once your body acquaints itself with the drug. If I were you, I would sit back and see how you are at 1 year of usage. From what you say, you are a good responder and you are resolving any side effect issue. Mate, that is a result!!!

It is sometimes hard to believe that the outcome will be positive, I know this myself, but you seem to be right on track. Don't stress too much, just keep on doing waht you are doing. I'm from the UK where in terms of doctors, we have Bessam Farjo, or Feriduni in Belgium. You guys have 45+ doctors to choose from. I don't know where the nearest one to Detroit would be, put in Michagan.. Try Dr Tessler or look at this map...

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=31236

Seek out the experts. I'm sure they will put your mind at ease!!!

Thank you very much for your kind and caring replying , may god bless you .

Yes mate , i am afraid that reduction in side effect is because of reduction in effectiveness of "fin" .

Any way i won't switch to "dutas" now , as you said i will sit back and watch for 1 year . but i am constantly hearing from others saying that fin worked well only for five year and after that lead back to baldness .

So i am afraid about the future , Since sudden switching from "fin" to "dutas" will lead to more shedding , i am planning to make my body adapt to "dutas" in precaution just by taking "dutas" for 2 days and "fin" for remaining 5 days . .

1. so , at least after 1 year shall i take "dutas" for 2 days and "fin" for remaining days of the week ? will that really work ? have any one tried like this and got synergistic effect ?

[8868alex]

I think everyone who uses Propecia / Finasteride has the worry that it will lose it's effect as the years go by. Yes, you will read about this in the forums and yes, there are those who will find that results taper off to some extent. However, you need to stay positive for several reasons:

1. There are several people who have used Propecia since it came out and
have still maintained (check out Spex, top bloke and highly respected) the
benefits.

2. Even if you do lose some of the potency, it is a myth that the body gets
used to Propecia. What can happen is that your genes may counteract
the effects of the drug. Worst case scenario it will slow it down,
you must remember that numerous leading experts including Dr Bauman
agree that you have over a 75% chance of being better off in 5 years on
the drug. What is more, with continued usage, the data shows that the
gap between where you would have been (without usage) and where you
actually are (whilst using) will continue to get further apart. Assuming it
worked for you, YOU WILL NOT GO BALD IN FIVE YEARS ON THE DRUG!

3. Even if you were unlucky and start to see some decline, you can always
look at adding another therapy like Minoxidil / Laser therapy / Prp to help
give you the edge back. I personally use Laser therapy and Minoxidil as
well. However, keep off these until you need a boost. Chances are
Propecia will be enough to keep you steady for at least the forseeable
future.

4. Within 5-10 years something will most likley replace Propecia as the gold
standard. Histogen, Aderans, Follica..... It's on it's way.

[coolforyou]

I think everyone who uses Propecia / Finasteride has the worry that it will lose it's effect as the years go by. Yes, you will read about this in the forums and yes, there are those who will find that results taper off to some extent. However, you need to stay positive for several reasons:

1. There are several people who have used Propecia since it came out and
have still maintained (check out Spex, top bloke and highly respected) the
benefits.

2. Even if you do lose some of the potency, it is a myth that the body gets
used to Propecia. What can happen is that your genes may counteract
the effects of the drug. Worst case scenario it will slow it down,
you must remember that numerous leading experts including Dr Bauman
agree that you have over a 75% chance of being better off in 5 years on
the drug. What is more, with continued usage, the data shows that the
gap between where you would have been (without usage) and where you
actually are (whilst using) will continue to get further apart. Assuming it
worked for you, YOU WILL NOT GO BALD IN FIVE YEARS ON THE DRUG!

3. Even if you were unlucky and start to see some decline, you can always
look at adding another therapy like Minoxidil / Laser therapy / Prp to help
give you the edge back. I personally use Laser therapy and Minoxidil as
well. However, keep off these until you need a boost. Chances are
Propecia will be enough to keep you steady for at least the forseeable
future.

4. Within 5-10 years something will most likley replace Propecia as the gold
standard. Histogen, Aderans, Follica..... It's on it's way.

Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooow you are so amazing , kind and caring ext . Thank you very much . may god bless you abundantly 8868alex mate .

sure i will not take "dutas" , I will continue taking "Fin " with full belief on my god Jesus Christ .

Thank you very much for your awesome confidence mate .

if "fin" remains effective even after 10 years that 's more than enough for me .

Within 5-10 years something will most likley replace Propecia as the gold 
    standard. Histogen, Aderans, Follica..... It's on it's way.

what are all the above medicines mate ? are they invented for baldness ? i haven't heard this before , can you please tell me about this ,just for information mate ....thanks in advance

[8868alex]

No probs mate. Happy to help. Those are names of pharmaceutical companies that are investing in new Hair loss therapies. Check out the archives on the Bald Truth or just Google them individually to get some info. Again, I am just a layman but I think that Histogen's HSC (Hair Stimulating Complex) is the one to watch. Go look up Dr Gail Naughton or Dr Craig Ziering and find their audio interviews with Spencer. It will make you feel a bit more optimistic. At the risk of repeating myself please go see a quality doctor. Perhaps do some online research before as well.

Best of luck!!

[coolforyou]

No probs mate. Happy to help. Those are names of pharmaceutical companies that are investing in new Hair loss therapies. Check out the archives on the Bald Truth or just Google them individually to get some info. Again, I am just a layman but I think that Histogen's HSC (Hair Stimulating Complex) is the one to watch. Go look up Dr Gail Naughton or Dr Craig Ziering and find their audio interviews with Spencer. It will make you feel a bit more optimistic. At the risk of repeating myself please go see a quality doctor. Perhaps do some online research before as well.

Best of luck!!

Thank you very much mate for your wonderful help ,

Sure i will search about these pharmaceutical companies in individual and will get information .

At the risk of repeating myself please go see a quality doctor. Perhaps do some online research before as well.

I am not the richest boy to spend money to come to UK and get a quality Doctor , i am still a student . But by god grace in future i will earn more money and then i will visit UK for quality doctor mate .... Any way thanks for your wonderful care

[coolforyou]

dear admin ,

Ban the above guy(SanyekSJ) , he is spamming our forum .... thank you

[TheDude]

Hay guys

I was wondering if i could chip in here.. i have been on propecia for 5 years and the effects are seriously waning..

It has definetly kept my hair in the state it is today which is a relief but once again i find myself looking down the barrel (metaphorically)

I was wondering if you guys (alex) had any ideas of what i could do to alleviate the problem..

im using propecia in combination with minox and upped my intial propecia dose to 1.5 when i started seeing the right temple receeding (dnt really know if thats helped)

The progression has been quiet dramatic.. in one and a half years i've seen dramatic thinning.. im too scarred of going on dust and so too me, it seems that my only option is to face my fears and start shaving my head..

any info would really be appreciated..

[coolforyou]

Hay guys

I was wondering if i could chip in here.. i have been on propecia for 5 years and the effects are seriously waning..

It has definetly kept my hair in the state it is today which is a relief but once again i find myself looking down the barrel (metaphorically)

I was wondering if you guys (alex) had any ideas of what i could do to alleviate the problem..

im using propecia in combination with minox and upped my intial propecia dose to 1.5 when i started seeing the right temple receeding (dnt really know if thats helped)

The progression has been quiet dramatic.. in one and a half years i've seen dramatic thinning.. im too scarred of going on dust and so too me, it seems that my only option is to face my fears and start shaving my head..

any info would really be appreciated..

Trust in god and Increase your dose mate , i mean take 2.5 mg per day and see how it works .... thank you .

[8868alex]

The Dude: -

Hi, difficult one to call this. From what you say, the waning effect of the drug is evident in the hairline? When you say you are seeing a shed, is there anything that you have changed in your life that could contribute to this? Again, I would seek out a good IAHRS Doctor and go from there. Yes you could look at increasing your dosage, but let an expert assess this. At this point, you could try incorporating Minoxidil. I used to use the 5% liquid which was a real pain and seemed to interrupt my day. Plus, I had major irratation which could get quite bad. I'm happy to say that since I've now switched to the 5% foam (on the advice of Spex), all this has gone away. The foam is very easy to apply and actually feels good in that it could almost be seen as a styling tool (think of hair mousse!). So you have Minoxidil as one option. Secondly, you have laser therapy. Very controversial and I don't want to push this as it is not as well respected. However, I have a Hairmax Lasercomb and I genuinelly believe it has some benefit in regards to hair rentention. I don't suggest going out and buying out one immediately as you have to weigh up the pro's and con's of introducing any new therapy. Check out the list of IAHRS and go to their websites. If you look at the non surgical treatmens sections, there are many doctors who (cautiously) suggest using laser treatment (Bauman, Charles, Ziering, Reece and even Shapiro among others). Like I said, it's an option to consider. If you are going to introduce a new therapy, try and do so in a controlled manner so that you can assess the benefit of each on an individual basis.

All that aside, with regards to the hairline, you may have to accept a slow advancement of reccession, at least until a new therapy emerges (which will happen at some point in the forseeable) as generally it is the hardest area to treat non-surgically. I should note that Minoxidil alone kept me at a Norwood 3 (ish) for over ten years. Whilst I'm not as "plentiful" as I was then, I'm still a 3 now even before I started Propecia. Don't think that any deteoriation will mean an inevitable fast decline.

If you see a doctor, maybe they can discuss PRP with you. I'm unsure whether or not ACELL is a standalone treatment or simply an adjunct to surgery.

Bottom line, if you are noticing a little waning at the temples on Propecia alone after 5 years, I would'nt panic. Look into my suggestions and stay positive as there are options.

[8868alex]

The Dude

Just re-read your post. Sorry, did'nt notice that you were using Minoxidil as well!.. Hopefully there is still some info of use in there.