Stem cells from Bone Marrow

[KeepHoping]

I agree, I liked Dr. Hitzig for his persistence but you hear a lot of talk for very few results.

[UK_]

I agree, I liked Dr. Hitzig for his persistence but you hear a lot of talk for very few results.

They're all the same - Follica said back in 2008 they'd have a cure in 3 years - now they're telling us they're still experimenting with mice - and a decade would be hopeful LOL Nobody but Histogen and Aderans have provided actual evidence that they are moving forward.

[DepressedByHairLoss]

Hey KeepHoping, that is the problem: people are doing extensive research on hair yet no one is willing to try anything beyond testing on mice. The combination of WNT and Noggin proteins have been proven to form a pit in the skin, telling stem cells to become hair as opposed to skin. Yet has anyone tried to use these proteins in combination to regrow hair in humans? No. BMP agonists have been shown to regrow hair, but no one has attempted to test them on humans. Same thing goes for TB-4. And it really shocks me that with all the money to be made for a hair loss cure, there are only a handful of people attempting to cure it. I heard something saying that people spend like 6 billion dollars a year on medications and treatments to improve their hair, and that is on ineffective stuff like Rogaine, Propecia, and hair transplants. I also saw a statistic saying that only 7 percent of men actually pay to improve their hair regrowth, since the options for treatment are very limited. So imagine if there was a totally effective hair regrowth cure out there. That 6 billion dollars number would rise literally exponentially.

[UK_]

Hey KeepHoping, that is the problem: people are doing extensive research on hair yet no one is willing to try anything beyond testing on mice. The combination of WNT and Noggin proteins have been proven to form a pit in the skin, telling stem cells to become hair as opposed to skin. Yet has anyone tried to use these proteins in combination to regrow hair in humans? No. BMP agonists have been shown to regrow hair, but no one has attempted to test them on humans. Same thing goes for TB-4. And it really shocks me that with all the money to be made for a hair loss cure, there are only a handful of people attempting to cure it. I heard something saying that people spend like 6 billion dollars a year on medications and treatments to improve their hair, and that is on ineffective stuff like Rogaine, Propecia, and hair transplants. I also saw a statistic saying that only 7 percent of men actually pay to improve their hair regrowth, since the options for treatment are very limited. So imagine if there was a totally effective hair regrowth cure out there. That 6 billion dollars number would rise literally exponentially.

If an effective treatment became available id chuck 50 grand at it without thinking or whatever it costs - take out loans sell my car use my savings -

[KeepHoping]

I think you are right but regrettably I guess these things take time or require FDA clearance to actually do it to a human. Although it appears that the WNT proteins that Histogen are using seem safe I guess they still have to pass through some serious trails.

[Sogeking]

One of my friends told we have some stem cells inside our wisdom teeth and that it is wise to keep our wisdom teeth if possible. Now I took that with grain of salt however does someone know if its true?

[UK_]

I also saw a statistic saying that only 7 percent of men actually pay to improve their hair regrowth, since the options for treatment are very limited. So imagine if there was a totally effective hair regrowth cure out there. That 6 billion dollars number would rise literally exponentially.

Talking of exponents - the leaps made in biotech from the 80's to today were entirely unexpected, today more people worldwide are conducting research in labs than ever before - by 2020 we will see some dramatic shifts in biotech and technology in general - I am a firm believer in the biotech revolution.

But I guarantee you... even if we reach levels of progression alien to the capacity of comprehension of the human brain... a hair loss cure will still be.... 5 ****ing years away

[DepressedByHairLoss]

The problem with a lot of these biotechs is that all they do is conduct "research" which results in them gaining "insight", "clues", and "alternate interpretations" into the hair loss process. I can name you so many researchers who make a living selling their articles to magazines. And of course these articles are always about experiments on mice that "may", "could", or "might" lead to hair regrowth in humans at some point in the future. And of course, they never test their findings on humans. It just frustrates me so much that there are all these hair loss "discoveries", yet all we have for treatment are utter shit like Rogaine, Propecia, and hair transplants.

[CVAZBAR]

Talking of exponents - the leaps made in biotech from the 80's to today were entirely unexpected, today more people worldwide are conducting research in labs than ever before - by 2020 we will see some dramatic shifts in biotech and technology in general - I am a firm believer in the biotech revolution.

But I guarantee you... even if we reach levels of progression alien to the capacity of comprehension of the human brain... a hair loss cure will still be.... 5 ****ing years away

Hahaha No shit huh! We are going to be flying to ****ing planets, bald as **** like that dude from Star Trek haha. But still 5 yrs away ha. I have a feeling that the cure is not close at all since we are just now doing real studies on HL. It will take time. I hope I'm dead wrong.

[DepressedByHairLoss]

Will some doctors start using to stem cells from bone marrow to start regrowing hair already! The science behind it is solid and I'm sick and tired of hearing about shit like Rogaine, Propecia, and hair transplants!

[PatientlyWaiting]

We're all sick of popping small pills every day and putting liquid/foam shit on our heads.

But the majority of people have that attitude like "hair loss isn't killing any one so who cares!".

Well we care, but no one cares that we care. Just a couple of companies care, and all they talk about is how to enhance hair transplants or get "unlimited supply" of donor hair or whatever, everything is surgical of course because hair transplant=more money for them. I don't want no damn HT. I like the sound of injection treatments better. Forget transplants, too expensive and too risky.

[Losing_It]

Well transplants would make sense if we know for sure that there would be more effective ways of managing hair loss. Stem Cells, Histogen, CB-03-01 etc, that are all supposedly 5 more years away. It sucks that all these promising treatments have been in limbo since almost 2006-2007. I suppose we are somewhat lucky that we can pop a pill, whereas guys in the 70s, 80s could pretty much do nothing about hair loss.

It will be interesting to see what the outcome of all these clinical trials will be in the next two years. Here's to hoping I can hold onto hair until these treatments become available. Hopefully propecia will do what it is suppose to do.

[DepressedByHairLoss]

PatientlyWaiting, I'm in total agreement with you. People tell me that scientists and doctors are really working hard to create a cure for hair loss. But it's all bullshit. If this was true, then how come so very few people/companies are even making attempts to treat hair loss? I think that because there is so much money in hair transplants, that a lot of these doctors would much rather keep performing them and raking in the money rather than trying something new and more effective. I don't want some damn hair transplant either since I've heard so many horror stories about hair transplants causing permanent scars, pockmarks, and disfigurations. I really wish that more people would focus on other types of 'cures' that involve things like cellular regeneration and stop focusing on these ****in transplants already.

[DepressedByHairLoss]

And I wouldn't mind popping Propecia pills and smearing Rogaine over my head if they actually worked, but both both of these so-called remedies don't do much of anything at all. They're like putting a band-aid over cancer.

[Follicle Death Row]

Dr. Anthony Atala would get it done in 3 years if that was his field of research. We're stuck with a shower of jokers.