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  • hellouser
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 4423

    Originally posted by MackJames
    Maybe. I'm just curious about the reason behind removing women from the next trial. There has to be a rationale for it. The only thing I can think of is women aren't responding as well and sinking the overall results.
    Personally, this is how I feel in regards to removing women the trials:

    - GOOD. Focus on men for once.
    - Potentially bad since it could mean a poor product... or perhaps it was just not working for women.

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    • MackJames
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 165

      Originally posted by hellouser
      Personally, this is how I feel in regards to removing women the trials:

      - GOOD. Focus on men for once.
      - Potentially bad since it could mean a poor product... or perhaps it was just not working for women.


      It's not the most polite thing to say but I feel the same way. Women do suffer but his is predominately a male affliction.

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      • hellouser
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 4423

        Originally posted by MackJames
        It's not the most polite thing to say but I feel the same way. Women do suffer but his is predominately a male affliction.
        Honestly, Bill Burr nailed it;

        I got to tell you this, because I’m envious of women, okay? I’m not saying your problems get solved but at least they are taken seriously, you know. I think we 1800 numbers, you got ribbons, there’s groups; people give a shit. Anything happens to a guy, it’s just considered funny. Some woman cut her husband’s dick off, threw in the garbage disposal and turned it on. People thought it was hilarious, I mean, hey, hey, stumpy, nobody cares.

        Do you think if a guy removed a woman’s titty and threw it in the drier anybody will be joking about it the next day? The entire country would grind to a halt; it’d be a moment of silence; the NFL would have some special colored headband everybody had to wear for an entire month. The most a-feminine color they could possibly come up with.

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        • yagazooci
          Junior Member
          • Apr 2012
          • 22

          Phase II men only query answered...

          Originally posted by MackJames
          Maybe. I'm just curious about the reason behind removing women from the next trial. There has to be a rationale for it. The only thing I can think of is women aren't responding as well and sinking the overall results.
          Replicel wrote a response on their official site... something about men being easier to recruit, hence a faster process and a quicker foray into phase III approval. They also said women will not be precluded from phase III. Interesting... I am sort of paraphrasing here though. I detect a hint of confidence in all that as well. We'll see how they do in the coming months.

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          • hellouser
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 4423

            Originally posted by yagazooci
            Replicel wrote a response on their official site... something about men being easier to recruit, hence a faster process and a quicker foray into phase III approval. They also said women will not be precluded from phase III. Interesting... I am sort of paraphrasing here though. I detect a hint of confidence in all that as well. We'll see how they do in the coming months.
            Sounds reasonable as well as much larger target audience. They're also behind Aderans and Histogen so they really need to pick up the pace if they want to have any kind of market share. I'll give them the benefit of doubt, lets hope for the best.

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            • Thinning87
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 847

              Originally posted by yagazooci
              Replicel wrote a response on their official site... something about men being easier to recruit, hence a faster process and a quicker foray into phase III approval. They also said women will not be precluded from phase III. Interesting... I am sort of paraphrasing here though. I detect a hint of confidence in all that as well. We'll see how they do in the coming months.
              where? I don't see it

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              • KJ1982
                Member
                • Dec 2012
                • 54

                Originally posted by Thinning87
                where? I don't see it
                It's under "Hair Loss", "Hair Loss FAQ's" and is near the bottom of the page...

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                • Thinning87
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 847

                  Originally posted by KJ1982
                  It's under "Hair Loss", "Hair Loss FAQ's" and is near the bottom of the page...
                  Thank you!

                  Well, activity is better than no activity, so I can say I am kind of satisfied. We'll see what their results from Phase 2 yield.

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                  • KJ1982
                    Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 54

                    No problem, Thinning87!

                    Hopefully Replicel will provide us with some interesting and exciting results. I understand that there are some here on the forums that aren't all too hopeful so far as Replicel are concerned. However, whilst my knowledge about their current progress is (admittedly) wanting, so far as I can tell the science sounds promising...
                    Last edited by KJ1982; 03-05-2013, 09:28 PM. Reason: Spelling correction.

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                    • Thinning87
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 847

                      Originally posted by KJ1982
                      No problem, Thinning87!

                      Hopefully Replicel will provide us with some interesting and exciting results. I understand that there are some here on the forums that aren't all too hopeful so far as Replicel are concerned. However, whilst my knowledge about their current progress is (admittedly) wanting, so far as I can tell the science sounds promising...
                      Ah well, we got a couple years ahead of us in which we hopefully will hear some developments. I don't really believe any of the timelines out there (especially Replicel being available in 2015... yeah right!) but if we have at least a bit of luck, at least one of the the new treatments will be confirmed for realease at some point in the future, and combined with a good HT it'd be a great advancement.

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                      • KJ1982
                        Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 54

                        Originally posted by Thinning87
                        Ah well, we got a couple years ahead of us in which we hopefully will hear some developments. I don't really believe any of the timelines out there (especially Replicel being available in 2015... yeah right!) but if we have at least a bit of luck, at least one of the the new treatments will be confirmed for realease at some point in the future, and combined with a good HT it'd be a great advancement.
                        Well, whatever the case may be with regards to (expected) release of any potential future treatment, for better or worse none of them are too far away from us now.

                        If Replicel produces good results in regrowing hair and it does prove to be only a couple of years away then it would be a huge weight off my mind knowing that, no matter what happens, I can regain what I have lost.

                        KJ.

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                        • hellouser
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 4423

                          Originally posted by KJ1982
                          Well, whatever the case may be with regards to (expected) release of any potential future treatment, for better or worse none of them are too far away from us now.

                          If Replicel produces good results in regrowing hair and it does prove to be only a couple of years away then it would be a huge weight off my mind knowing that, no matter what happens, I can regain what I have lost.

                          KJ.
                          Thats a big assumption though because none of us really know what kind of results to expect from Replicel. Of course, I'm only playing devils advocate but only because their Phase I safety trials proved to be very disappointing. However, Phase II results will give us a much better picture. Lets hope they get some serious results

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                          • yagazooci
                            Junior Member
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 22

                            Originally posted by Thinning87
                            where? I don't see it
                            Mybad. It was on the Replicel Facebook site that I got that piece about "why only men this time". Sorry. They all look similar I guess. Anyway it seems to be posted there in another area of the site too. Thanks

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                            • KJ1982
                              Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 54

                              Originally posted by hellouser
                              Thats a big assumption though because none of us really know what kind of results to expect from Replicel. Of course, I'm only playing devils advocate but only because their Phase I safety trials proved to be very disappointing. However, Phase II results will give us a much better picture. Lets hope they get some serious results
                              Oh, of course; it's a huge assumption on my part.

                              However, at the risk of stating the obvious it has to be said that to form a conclusion based around Phase I trial data is rather premature; Phase I trials are only intended to establish whether or not a treatment is safe. As you said, Phase II results shall give us a much clearer understanding as to the potential efficacy of this new treatment.

                              Besides, even if it's established that this proposed treatment doesn't hold the key to reversing hair loss we will still have valuable data that could prove essential to finding the actual solution further on down the line.

                              As Thomas Edison once said, "I have not failed. I've just found ten thousand ways that won't work."

                              I understand that those words will provide little comfort to some, though every step we take, whatever the result, is a step in the right direction and brings us closer to solving this problem once and for all.

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                              • hellouser
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2012
                                • 4423

                                Originally posted by KJ1982
                                Oh, of course; it's a huge assumption on my part.

                                However, at the risk of stating the obvious it has to be said that to form a conclusion based around Phase I trial data is rather premature; Phase I trials are only intended to establish whether or not a treatment is safe. As you said, Phase II results shall give us a much clearer understanding as to the potential efficacy of this new treatment.

                                Besides, even if it's established that this proposed treatment doesn't hold the key to reversing hair loss we will still have valuable data that could prove essential to finding the actual solution further on down the line.

                                As Thomas Edison once said, "I have not failed. I've just found ten thousand ways that won't work."

                                I understand that those words will provide little comfort to some, though every step we take, whatever the result, is a step in the right direction and brings us closer to solving this problem once and for all.
                                I honestly see no point in going through with efforts from Aderans, Histogen or Replicel... or all combined when we know Dr. Roland Lauster has cultured follicles WITH hair in a petri dish. All the others are now rendered useless by Dr. Lauster's holy grail so why are there still efforts being made with the other guys when we know we've got a legitimate solution?

                                Now I know the other guys want money at this point, but in an ideal world all efforts would be made towards Dr. Lausters work and get it out the door.

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