Histogen Update - Spencer Kobren Speaks With Dr. Craig L. Ziering

[RichardDawkins]

Yop i saw this especialle the STEM instead of STIMulating thing

All i know is, it wont be 10 years before we got a solution but science and researchers should not be so OVERLY Careful. THey should grab some forum users here and go for it :-)

I would volunteer and take one for the team ^^

[UK_]

Yop i saw this especialle the STEM instead of STIMulating thing

All i know is, it wont be 10 years before we got a solution but science and researchers should not be so OVERLY Careful. THey should grab some forum users here and go for it :-)

I would volunteer and take one for the team ^^

What do u think? Are you gonna order some?

It looks so convincing, I cant believe (if they are scammers) how they pull off being so legit... they play with your wishes... I wish this was it... but I know deep down it cant be.

[RichardDawkins]

Naaa i wont order this because imho i wait for one of the big players or go to Gho thats it. But if this stuff is valid well i may reevaluate my thinking.

But right now i would more consider something like Gho because those are consitent and solid results but what do i know

[UK_]

http://www.stophairlossnow.co.uk/News/Stem-Cell-Based-Product-for-Aiding-Hair-Growth-Launched-by-BioRegenerative-Sciences-101380.html

Well here they state they went though the same type of clinical trials as Histogen, ive also just sent them an email asking several questions about this trial, first of all, can I see the results from it? lol... I hope this is the one... I hope and pray this is at least SOMETHING.

Whether this is a scam or not, I believe this will be the model of what will form as THE HOLY GRAIL - a topical application that works at just triggering those dormant stem cells into growth... I DO see hope on the HM side, but this type of technology fits so well with the research that found the remaining inactive stem cells in bald scalps.

Histogen shall wear the crown (no pun intended) if they can prove their product safe and effective at 50%+ yield.

[RichardDawkins]

Well to be honest, i think the standard of regrowth will be 70 to 80% tops. Yes stem cells will be THE solution in terms of transplantation or HM.

Looks very bad on the FUT side though, you agree. I mean i was really shocked to hear that in germany some scientist created artificial follicles, cause i never would have imgained that this is actually be doing right now

[UK_]

Well to be honest, i think the standard of regrowth will be 70 to 80% tops. Yes stem cells will be THE solution in terms of transplantation or HM.

Looks very bad on the FUT side though, you agree. I mean i was really shocked to hear that in germany some scientist created artificial follicles, cause i never would have imgained that this is actually be doing right now

And if you think about it... they started off in 1997 - a decade before Histogen, I mean read this from their "company" section, you cannot help but make the comparisons to the approach Histogen use:

"The efficacy of BioRegenerative Sciences' stem cell products and therapeutics largely result from the release of a full complement of molecules from the stem cells, including growth factors, cytokines, interleukins, and other protein molecules. BioRegenerative Sciences utilizes our proprietary SRM technology (stem cell released molecules technology) to deliver all of the active molecules released by stem cells."

I mean this is just like what Histogen are doing with their dermal fibroblasts, they're (from hypoxic conditions) extracting certain proteins and growth factors that facilitate hair growth - their key ingredient is WNT7A... I wonder what BioRegenerative Sciences' key ingredient is.

[Sogeking]

In the future this stem cell treatments will be combined with HT used with HM for best density and results, but for now we all have to wait years for this to become a reality.
Its really frustrating, but still if or when it comes out and the results are good, a lot of sufferers will go on immediate high. . I remain a skeptic until then.
Still seems to me that their info is very similar to that of Histogen.

[Jcm800]

I'd certainly have a punt on this as and when the men's version becomes available, sound's interesting.

[UK_]

I'd certainly have a punt on this as and when the men's version becomes available, sound's interesting.

I hope they distribute in the UK - I hate paying our import taxes.

[Jcm800]

Agreed! But if it does the job..

[UK_]

Agreed! But if it does the job..

if it does the job ill swim across the pond to get me some.

[Latitude]

I doubt that very much, Intercytex were back up early last year, these guys are not even 5 years away they are saying.... i cant believe this, its like a dagger in ur soul i wish they would for Gods sake shut up with all this "here in 5 years" and then come out 3 years later and laugh about asking if its still 2 - 5 years away.

This has to be an old article, or one that was complied with very little research, yes Intercytex has re-launched, however they are no longer looking at HM/cloning, they sold all of their research/patents to Aderans when they went into administration.

[scoobysnacks]

I don't think its an old article rehashed, but we must always take article like this in newspapers with a grain of salt as they can be grossly underinformed and only represent one side of the story. The fact that they even neglected to mention Histogen in place Intercytex should be the first sign that the journalist only did very basic research, considering Intercytex's current involvement in the HM field.

And while i'm hopeful that these treatments will pull through in the short term (as a diffuse thinner I feel they would have fantastic results for me), we have to be realistic in saying that all the companies in the game have an equal chance of succeeding, as well as an equal chance of failing and pinning our every hope to either outcome, for whatever reason, can only create more stress in our already unfortunately stressed lives. I mean Histogen have only ever presented a few graphs and photos showing promising but also dubious results, and the other companies have also been shrouded in secrecy. I'm not a sceptic, I want these treatments to work, and I want them to be on the market as soon as possible, but we really need to be a bit realistic about the prospects right now.

Just sayin'

[scoobysnacks]

Also, my views on Histogen could be significantly altered in less than a months time when they present at the World Congress of Dermatology in Korea. That will be the next big indicator of where they are at with their programs. If the results are good it could also spur Follica on to release some more information on the current state of their very guarded trials. We'll just have to wait and see

[Jcm800]

if it does the job ill swim across the pond to get me some.

I'm buying some trunks. Anyway let us know if they get back to you, fingers crossed it's not a scam, have a feeling it may be a worthy gamble tho