Histogen Update - Spencer Kobren Speaks With Dr. Craig L. Ziering

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  • UK_
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 2744

    They'll be presenting Phase 2 results at a conference on 9 - 12 May.

    But everyone will still be talking about 3% rubbish Replicel.

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    • jpm
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 250

      Originally posted by UK_
      They'll be presenting Phase 2 results at a conference on 9 - 12 May.

      But everyone will still be talking about 3% rubbish Replicel.
      Wow so we will know more about Histogen within a week, exciting!!

      People need to put Replicel's results to the back of their mind and let them crack on with it. Granted 3% is not a very good result, but its early days yet and other than the results being underwhelming there was no safety concerns or problems....Anyway I don't want this to turn into another rant about replicel's results.

      Will this be the end of Phase 2 for Histogen, or more still to test? Will they be announcing safety, effectiveness, viability at this conference??

      Ta

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      • yeahyeahyeah
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2011
        • 1818

        Originally posted by jpm
        Wow so we will know more about Histogen within a week, exciting!!

        People need to put Replicel's results to the back of their mind and let them crack on with it. Granted 3% is not a very good result, but its early days yet and other than the results being underwhelming there was no safety concerns or problems....Anyway I don't want this to turn into another rant about replicel's results.

        Will this be the end of Phase 2 for Histogen, or more still to test? Will they be announcing safety, effectiveness, viability at this conference??

        Ta
        PLEASE HISTOGEN, report some good news.

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        • jpm
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 250

          Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
          PLEASE HISTOGEN, report some good news.
          They've already reported good news and we 'know' it works as their figures show they get 73% after one year... guess its just refining that procedure now

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          • yeahyeahyeah
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 1818

            Originally posted by jpm
            They've already reported good news and we 'know' it works as their figures show they get 73% after one year... guess its just refining that procedure now
            So why aren't people celebrating, looks like histogen have won the race?

            How does their tech, will it bring a NW7 back to NW1?

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            • neversaynever
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 648

              Originally posted by jpm
              They've already reported good news and we 'know' it works as their figures show they get 73% after one year... guess its just refining that procedure now
              Was that 73% for one patient or was it an average across all test patients?

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              • jpm
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2011
                • 250

                Originally posted by neversaynever
                Was that 73% for one patient or was it an average across all test patients?
                An average I believe.

                Check out this page, there are pics on it too. What I find good is that there are results within 12 weeks, which in hair loss terms is mega fast, considering it takes fin up to 18-24 months!!



                Well its not permanent so its not a cure and I believe the hair could last around 5 years (my uninformed opinion btw) but with fin or any other new anti-androgen that may come out like CB then I think its a very big step in the right direction

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                • jpm
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 250

                  Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                  So why aren't people celebrating, looks like histogen have won the race?

                  How does their tech, will it bring a NW7 back to NW1?
                  Doubtful to bring a nw7 to nw1...probably need a lot of injections to do that...if its even possible. I would assume it works better on diffuse thinners, but again just my opinion.

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                  • yeahyeahyeah
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 1818

                    Originally posted by jpm
                    Doubtful to bring a nw7 to nw1...probably need a lot of injections to do that...if its even possible. I would assume it works better on diffuse thinners, but again just my opinion.
                    What about if you are receeding?

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                    • kaandereli
                      Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 57

                      Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                      So why aren't people celebrating, looks like histogen have won the race?

                      How does their tech, will it bring a NW7 back to NW1?
                      in the beginning of this thread , a doctor from histogen answered to questions.he said that it is possible to get a full hair even for nw7

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                      • jpm
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 250

                        Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                        What about if you are receeding?
                        Maybe... I don't think they've tested it at the temples. But I don't see why you couldnt get some regrowth, minox does sometimes regrow hair at the temples. They might get some regrowth but generally the crown responds best to treatments

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                        • john2399
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 527

                          I have all my faith in histogen. Those results were fantastic.Hopefully they just continue to get better which will most likely happen with more injections.

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                          • neversaynever
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 648

                            Originally posted by john2399
                            I have all my faith in histogen. Those results were fantastic.Hopefully they just continue to get better which will most likely happen with more injections.
                            I agree. If that 73% increase is an average across all their phase 1 patients (struggling to confirm that on the histogen website!), then its the best results by far from anyone.

                            There are many questions to be answered. of course this is not the cure, but I would be more than happy to fly to asia one a year or once every two years to wake up my vellus hairs.

                            I assume they're currently testing it on slick bald scalps?? I hope so. Im not there yet, YET

                            This is an old thread, and i find their website difficult to navigate. Can anyone confirm when they started phase 2? I know they had problems starting up, so it got delayed.

                            Also, can someone point me to the 73% on their site, where it says its an average rather than just one patient?

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                            • neversaynever
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 648

                              I also find it interesting that ziering was happy to mention other researchers, including Dr Cots, who hit us recently with this PGd2 stuff. I wonder what ziering has to say about that?

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                              • sausage
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 1064

                                Anyone know a year/possible date when this will be available if all goes well?

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