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    Increased terminal hairs were seen in the entire region within the 4 injection sites supporting the hypothesis that HSC stimulated resting and miniaturizing follicles to increase terminal hair growth.
    Note carefully that this passage does not claim that HSC is producing any new hair growth. It only talks about stimulating "resting and miniaturizing follicles."

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmonasco View Post
    "resting and miniaturizing follicles."
    This confuses me, I thought they discovered hair follicles are shrunken down, microscopic , but still there. Shouldn't treatments restore these follicles back?

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    just to clarify:

    http://www.thebaldtruth.com/articles...wth-interview/

    in this interview gail naughton said that the HSC is stimulating not only the existing hair follicles (the ones that are not completely "dead" from mph) but it also stimulates the stem cells that are responsible for creating hair follicles in our scalp in the first place.

    so the way i understand this, is that you can be completely bald and still regrow hair with the HSC. Its just more effective when you still have hair since remaining hair follicles will produce also more hair per follicular unit. And they call it "regenerative medicine" so i think i understood it correctly.

    But if i am not plz feel free to correct me

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    Quote Originally Posted by tizzle View Post
    just to clarify:

    http://www.thebaldtruth.com/articles...wth-interview/

    in this interview gail naughton said that the HSC is stimulating not only the existing hair follicles (the ones that are not completely "dead" from mph) but it also stimulates the stem cells that are responsible for creating hair follicles in our scalp in the first place.

    so the way i understand this, is that you can be completely bald and still regrow hair with the HSC. Its just more effective when you still have hair since remaining hair follicles will produce also more hair per follicular unit. And they call it "regenerative medicine" so i think i understood it correctly.

    But if i am not plz feel free to correct me
    You sound correct to me. I do feel a nw 2 or 3 would benefit more from this treatment or specially someone who is thinning in which this can help catch it in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john2399 View Post
    You sound correct to me. I do feel a nw 2 or 3 would benefit more from this treatment or specially someone who is thinning in which this can help catch it in time.
    I'm a nw 1.5/2 thinning slowly, I'm on fin so I'm hoping I can keep it this way till Histogen comes out in a few years. I hope I'm a good candidate

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    73% growth was from this one subject ONLY:



    the rest of the subjects didn't have such massive growth, altough Histogen said that after one year, EVERYONE'S hair count improved....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tizzle View Post
    in this interview gail naughton said that the HSC is stimulating not only the existing hair follicles (the ones that are not completely "dead" from mph) but it also stimulates the stem cells that are responsible for creating hair follicles in our scalp in the first place.
    Not exactly. She said, it "seems as though we're creating new hair follicles from stem cells that are in the scalp." It might also be the case that something else is happening, such as HSC is simply coaxing existing hairs out of the telogen (i.e., resting) phase. The abstract quoted earlier in this thread suggests the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmonasco View Post
    Not exactly. She said, it "seems as though we're creating new hair follicles from stem cells that are in the scalp." It might also be the case that something else is happening, such as HSC is simply coaxing existing hairs out of the telogen (i.e., resting) phase. The abstract quoted earlier in this thread suggests the latter.
    ^ that's more likely.....

    Histogen is not in the business of actually CLONING hair, it just works with what you got

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    This confuses me, I thought they discovered hair follicles are shrunken down, microscopic , but still there. Shouldn't treatments restore these follicles back?
    There's a difference between follicles that are miniaturized and those that have stopped producing hair altogether. What works on the former may not necessarily work on the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2020 View Post
    73% growth was from this one subject ONLY
    You also have to be careful about how that growth is measured. If you have 100 hairs in a given area of your head and some treatment increases that hair count to 200, that's a 100% increase based on the existing hair count. But if that area of your head initially held 5,000 hairs prior to the onset of MPB, an increase of 100 hairs isn't going to make any cosmetic difference to your appearance. You would have to hope that such a treatment was compoundable to be effective.

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