Histogen Update - Spencer Kobren Speaks With Dr. Craig L. Ziering

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  • RichardDawkins
    Inactive
    • Jan 2011
    • 895

    You know for how long Ari is doing its research right now? A decade? More then a decade. Hell even Lauster wasnt taken that long to create a "follicle"

    Still this injectible solution dream.

    Btw just to inform you, there is a point in life, where hair follicles cant be regenerated anymore, when there cycle has come down to an finish, an end. And then you will still need something called HSC

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    • krewel
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 188

      Originally posted by RichardDawkins
      You know for how long Ari is doing its research right now? A decade? More then a decade. Hell even Lauster wasnt taken that long to create a "follicle"

      Still this injectible solution dream.

      Btw just to inform you, there is a point in life, where hair follicles cant be regenerated anymore, when there cycle has come down to an finish, an end. And then you will still need something called HSC
      hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahaahahahahahah ahahahahahaahah

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      • amadeus
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 295

        @RichardDawkins, it would be much more productive to just stick to the facts when discussing this potential treatment. You have a tendency to post your personal assumptions as fact, but the truth is you don’t know anything when it comes to how the company is actually moving ahead with this product. I don’t see the need for you to post in such an aggressive way and constantly battle other posters on this forum. Why don't you just try to stick to the facts and stop pushing your paranoid assertions on everybody.

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        • RichardDawkins
          Inactive
          • Jan 2011
          • 895

          Wrong there is a point of no return where your hair cycle will come to an end and cant be reactivated anymore

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          • Jundam
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 110

            Originally posted by RichardDawkins
            Wrong there is a point of no return where your hair cycle will come to an end and cant be reactivated anymore
            Yes, that "point of no return" would be the pesky thing that is popularly referred to as death.

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            • RichardDawkins
              Inactive
              • Jan 2011
              • 895

              Dead things cant be ressurected anymore dont forget that

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              • Follicle Death Row
                Senior Member
                • May 2011
                • 1066

                A cell based solution will absolutely work. I believe in what Ari and Replicel are doing. It might take some time to perfect but the science supports it. If you do a small bit of research you'll see that it will work once they've mastered it.

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                • DepressedByHairLoss
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 876

                  I still have more confidence in Histogen's solution than any other one. It has been known for years that WNT's lead to increased hair growth and finally some one is doing something with that knowledge. I don't really have that much confidence in Aderans. They've been at Phase II for a while now and haven't had good results. Plus, they're affiliated now with Bosley and we know what an unethical piece-of-shit company Bosley is. I really wish Histogen would get the funding that Aderans does. Actually, that's why I think that Aderans teamed up with Bosley, cus they needed the money and unfortunately Bosley makes a ton of money peddling their garbage treatments. I think Replicel has much more potential to succeed than Aderans does. I looked at Replicel's website and they have several highly-regarded hair researchers and doctors as part of their team. However, I still like Histogen best of all because they're attempting to recreate the signals that grow hair in the first place. With Aderans and Replicel, a biopsy is involved and that leaves a scar. So if the procedure turns out to be less than good, then you're left with a permanent scar on your head.

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                  • Follicle Death Row
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 1066

                    I don't like Bosley being involved either but that doesn't mean that Aderans solution will be rubbish. Like Replicel they're essentially looking to copy your donor hairs and give you loads on top of your scalp. Ultimately this would be the ideal solution but it's going to take some time to master it. Replicel are looking to take just 1 4mm diameter punch. If it works really well I'd take that. I think it will be possible to make that punch smaller or even take a few 1mm punches eventually.

                    I like what Histogen are doing. It would be fantastic if they could correct the signalling pathway. In the early days of Histogen and Aderans a good solution maybe a synergistic use of both to maintain hair and to grow new hair. Perhaps even FUE would have a place to refine the hairline and fill in stubborn patches.

                    As the technology progresses you'd hope it would make FUE redundant. I think cell based solutions ala Aderans and Replicel will ultimately be more effective because in theory at least the limit to the amount of hair you can generate is mind boggling plus once it's growing it's there for good and a repeat treatment is not needed. As for Histogen we don't know. I suppose the upper limit in theory would be native density but treatments would have to repeated at some stage. Tough to say, might be every 5 years, or every 10 years. Could be very patient dependent though.

                    I'm optimistic for the results in Q1 2012. Fingers crossed.

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                    • ALLISWELL
                      Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 52

                      Histogen is DEAD.....RIP......PRAY FOR ITS HSC SOULS IN PURGATORY.

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                      • Kiwi
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 1105

                        Originally posted by ALLISWELL
                        Histogen is DEAD.....RIP......PRAY FOR ITS HSC SOULS IN PURGATORY.
                        Do you like the taste of Dawkins penis? Is that why you're talking bullshit?

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                        • RichardDawkins
                          Inactive
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 895

                          Hmmm funny, people really cant live with other opinions. I ask again, where are Zierings promised news from a few months ago. Instead of answering some question or whatever he presented some hair transplant cases and thats it.

                          Where are ARI´s fotos, even Histogen could provide one or so. Where are they and why hasnt anyone of the Ari staff being on the Spencer Kobren Show?

                          Questions, QUestions and no answers. I bet my ass that people here would still stick with injectible solutions as a pipe dream when HSC would be the new standard.

                          I think a lot of people are spoiled by the promises from certain researchers right now.

                          If you would compare tissue engineering approiaches versus injectible approaches, you would easily see that the first category is the one with the results etc.

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                          • krewel
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 188

                            Richard Dawkins reminds me of this guy:
                            Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

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                            • RichardDawkins
                              Inactive
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 895

                              one of the best movies ever and both have hairs so i dont feel insulted here

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                              • krewel
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2011
                                • 188

                                Originally posted by RichardDawkins
                                one of the best movies ever and both have hairs so i dont feel insulted here
                                See, that's why u remind me of him

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