Histogen Update - Spencer Kobren Speaks With Dr. Craig L. Ziering

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  • sausage
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 1064

    It is tough living on hope, time, the unknown.......

    Is this really likely to produce thick full heads of hair? Possibly and probably not.

    We won't know it until we actually see the final trials.

    For me personally, In my late 20's I do not really have much time or the patience to wait.

    Going bald is tough to deal with, my life's been ruined by it. Trying to make a decision on whether to wait for a treatment, to get a hair transplant or do nothing at all is extremely hard for many reasons and could ultimately destroy me. I need action now.

    Compared to other young balding men I think I am dealing with hairloss very badly. I cannot cope, its constantly on my mind non-stop, 24/7. It is mental torture. I think I will have to get a HT. If it doesn't work then I will have to go to beachy head.

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    • young
      Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 31

      From what I understand, you basically restart your process. So if you started to go bald at age 20, the treatment will have to be done again within that timeframe.

      And that is something most could live with.

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      • young
        Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 31

        Originally posted by sausage
        It is tough living on hope, time, the unknown.......

        Is this really likely to produce thick full heads of hair? Possibly and probably not.

        We won't know it until we actually see the final trials.

        For me personally, In my late 20's I do not really have much time or the patience to wait.

        Going bald is tough to deal with, my life's been ruined by it. Trying to make a decision on whether to wait for a treatment, to get a hair transplant or do nothing at all is extremely hard for many reasons and could ultimately destroy me. I need action now.

        Compared to other young balding men I think I am dealing with hairloss very badly. I cannot cope, its constantly on my mind non-stop, 24/7. It is mental torture. I think I will have to get a HT. If it doesn't work then I will have to go to beachy head.
        Don't be ashamed. Almost everyone deals with it pretty badly! It's not fun at all, and a lot of women don't actually understand the feeling we have of losing our very identity and "machoness". We feel a major set back, and complete loss of youth and vigour.

        I too lie awake and reminisce of the days when I had long flowing locks. I am not bald, but it has thinned out a lot. I have made improvements with an HT and some other standard treatments. It's helping.

        You should get it too. It makes you feel better. Don't think of the cost.

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        • Maradona
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 830

          Originally posted by sausage
          It is tough living on hope, time, the unknown.......

          Is this really likely to produce thick full heads of hair? Possibly and probably not.

          We won't know it until we actually see the final trials.

          For me personally, In my late 20's I do not really have much time or the patience to wait.

          Going bald is tough to deal with, my life's been ruined by it. Trying to make a decision on whether to wait for a treatment, to get a hair transplant or do nothing at all is extremely hard for many reasons and could ultimately destroy me. I need action now.

          Compared to other young balding men I think I am dealing with hairloss very badly. I cannot cope, its constantly on my mind non-stop, 24/7. It is mental torture. I think I will have to get a HT. If it doesn't work then I will have to go to beachy head.
          hey man i know how you feel but there is surely things you still have right now that once you lose them you will not even care of being bald. I'm embracing it little by little man....all we can do is keep hope alive. Histogen might bring a solution the problem is time...unfortunately.

          Why don't you try embracing the baldness for a couple of months or so, shave it and move on and see if you can deal with it. i will do that after my last attempt with a topical.

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          • clandestine
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 2005

            You're not your hair, my fellow hair loss sufferers. You're not your hair.

            That said, being 19 and first year uni, I'm dealing with this rather terribly. This is a good place to vent, though. It helps knowing there are others on here for support, going through the same motions.

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            • Kiwi
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 1105

              Originally posted by clandestine
              You're not your hair, my fellow hair loss sufferers. You're not your hair.

              That said, being 19 and first year uni, I'm dealing with this rather terribly. This is a good place to vent, though. It helps knowing there are others on here for support, going through the same motions.
              I agree with you guys.

              At least you guys dont have a strip scar. My next HT will be FUE into the scar... Sucks to be me more then it sucks to be you :-/

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              • KeepHoping
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 182

                Just to give you guys some info, I emailed them and they finally got back to me, I just asked if the trail had started and she told me for the phase I/II trail all 55 subjects have been enrolled and injected with HSC and they look forward to sharing data in the upcoming months. A little victory for all of us.

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                • sanook
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 105

                  Originally posted by sausage
                  It is tough living on hope, time, the unknown.......

                  Is this really likely to produce thick full heads of hair? Possibly and probably not.

                  We won't know it until we actually see the final trials.

                  For me personally, In my late 20's I do not really have much time or the patience to wait.

                  Going bald is tough to deal with, my life's been ruined by it. Trying to make a decision on whether to wait for a treatment, to get a hair transplant or do nothing at all is extremely hard for many reasons and could ultimately destroy me. I need action now.

                  Compared to other young balding men I think I am dealing with hairloss very badly. I cannot cope, its constantly on my mind non-stop, 24/7. It is mental torture. I think I will have to get a HT. If it doesn't work then I will have to go to beachy head.
                  I know how you feel, i'm my late 20s and its had a bad impact on my confidence over the last decade. I even got to the stage of booking FUT with a very reputable surgeon, then chickened out at the last minute - so glad i did. I'm now booked in with Dr Gho for HST.

                  I would try out HST or wait it out a few years and see whats available then. It's not worth badly scarring your head IMO, particularly for those of us who like to keep our hair short.

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                  • clandestine
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 2005

                    Wouldn't mind a subforum on this website where we could talk about coping with hair loss in our lives..

                    Anyone agree?

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                    • cleverusername
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 214

                      Originally posted by clandestine
                      You're not your hair, my fellow hair loss sufferers. You're not your hair.

                      That said, being 19 and first year uni, I'm dealing with this rather terribly. This is a good place to vent, though. It helps knowing there are others on here for support, going through the same motions.
                      I'm starting my first year of uni next year and I'm also dealing with this terribly, like I'm addicted to coming on this forum everyday and thinking about my hair. It's gonna suck being the balding guy. Let's just hope one of these treatments comes to market soon so we can enjoy our lives after university.

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                      • clandestine
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 2005

                        Originally posted by cleverusername
                        I'm starting my first year of uni next year and I'm also dealing with this terribly, like I'm addicted to coming on this forum everyday and thinking about my hair. It's gonna suck being the balding guy. Let's just hope one of these treatments comes to market soon so we can enjoy our lives after university.
                        Nailed it man, this is what I do precisely. I am indeed addicting to checking these forums every day. Sometimes multiple times a day. Blah.

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                        • DepressedByHairLoss
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 876

                          Originally posted by KeepHoping
                          Just to give you guys some info, I emailed them and they finally got back to me, I just asked if the trail had started and she told me for the phase I/II trail all 55 subjects have been enrolled and injected with HSC and they look forward to sharing data in the upcoming months. A little victory for all of us.
                          This is really good news. I heard somewhere that perhaps in some countries in the Far East, HSC Complex could be available after Phase I/II due to less stringent regulatory standards. But this is indeed a victory. Even if a person tries HSC Complex and it somehow doesn't work, then they won't have permanent head scarring like with a hair transplant. No long term damage would be done; same can't be said with hair transplants today.

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                          • cleverusername
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 214

                            Originally posted by clandestine
                            Nailed it man, this is what I do precisely. I am indeed addicting to checking these forums every day. Sometimes multiple times a day. Blah.
                            Haha at least we aren't the only ones.. on another note: http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthr...t=5419&page=21
                            I don't know if it's the lighting or something or maybe I'm just seeing things but it looks like NeedHairAsap is having some success with Spectral F-7.. Hope it works, cause I'm scared shitless from the thoughts of messing with Propecia.

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                            • born
                              Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 66

                              Originally posted by cleverusername
                              Haha at least we aren't the only ones.. on another note: http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthr...t=5419&page=21
                              I don't know if it's the lighting or something or maybe I'm just seeing things but it looks like NeedHairAsap is having some success with Spectral F-7.. Hope it works, cause I'm scared shitless from the thoughts of messing with Propecia.
                              post finasteride syndrome is very rare.Same like getting hit by a car next time you leave home.I don't know about other side effects though.I only trust the swedish study and it showed that the side effects are indeed rare.They even forced merk to include a waring of permanet erectile dysfanction on the warning tab of the reports they received otherwise they would remove it from market.If it wasn't safe they would have taken it down.

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                              • Have Hope3
                                Junior Member
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 15

                                Originally posted by KeepHoping
                                Just to give you guys some info, I emailed them and they finally got back to me, I just asked if the trail had started and she told me for the phase I/II trail all 55 subjects have been enrolled and injected with HSC and they look forward to sharing data in the upcoming months. A little victory for all of us.
                                This is encouraging. Now it sounds like we are waiting for results from RepliCel and Histogen. I didn't realize Histogen was this far along. I wish Dr. Z would pay us a surprise visit! Good Luck to Histogen and RepliCel. Please make us proud!

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