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01-02-2012 09:14 PM
#1351
I don't know about Histogen not beginning their clinical trials. I found a timeline on their website which apparently says that they've completed Phase I already. http://www.histogen.com/products/clinical_status.htm
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01-03-2012 07:44 PM
#1352
Originally Posted by DepressedByHairLoss
They completed a pilot study in January of 2009. The graph to which you've provided a link has been on Histogen's Web site since at least early in 2011 — that pilot study is the only thing to which it could be referring.
What we're talking about is the phase I/II trial Histogen was supposed to begin on H.S.C., during June, 2011.
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01-04-2012 03:48 AM
#1353
Originally Posted by HairTalk
They completed a pilot study in January of 2009. The graph to which you've provided a link has been on Histogen's Web site since at least early in 2011 — that pilot study is the only thing to which it could be referring.
What we're talking about is the phase I/II trial Histogen was supposed to begin on H.S.C., during June, 2011.
Yep just to clarify, the pilot study was basically a Phase I that tested primarily safety with a single injection and secondarily efficacy.
This one is a I/II study for multiple injections and repeated injections, with both safety and efficacy as primary goals. It's also on a larger group (though not as much larger as we'd hoped).
So the Histogen timeline is starting to really slip. From memory Phase II has by far the greatest failure rate for clinical trials so if they can make it through this one there is a good chance of a product, but 2015 would seem the absolute earliest at this stage.
I wish they'd give us more info. But of these companies only Replicel is publicly-listed so they are only ones with a real desire to drive up the share price... hence IMO why Replicel have so far been the best at keeping us informed.
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01-04-2012 12:35 PM
#1354
Originally Posted by HairTalk
Where did you hear they had enrolled subjects who were on minoxidil and/or finasteride?
Ahh I can't remember, sure without evidence it doesn't really matter. I believe it was on hairsite. It was also given as reason for their late start with phase 2. But still what matters are pahse 2 trials they have started.
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01-04-2012 05:54 PM
#1355
Hairsite any more questions?
Believe e when people here got full heads of hair again those hairsite lulers will still talk about more Gho proof
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01-05-2012 11:51 PM
#1356
Any news?? I thought i'd take 6 months off but I just couldn't keep away any longer
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01-06-2012 04:53 AM
#1357
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01-06-2012 07:17 PM
#1358
Originally Posted by RichardDawkins
Hairsite any more questions?
Believe e when people here got full heads of hair again those hairsite lulers will still talk about more Gho proof
Well has there been anyone who has got a full head of hair from ghos treatment.
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01-06-2012 11:11 PM
#1359
Originally Posted by Sogeking
Hi UK. I was wondering where you went .
Apparently they(Histogen) started phase II trials in the beggining of December with 59 participants.
Most of us are eagerly awaiting phase I trial results from Replicel in late March. Until then there probably won't be anything to report .
DECEMBER?!?!?!?!?!!!!
Chrissake what happend to starting the trials in June 2011? -
I bet you they were held up by that damn court case. Aderans should finish up phase II this summer when they hit 350 - then its a looooong wait through Phase III lol.
Any news on Intercytex? lol only joking
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01-07-2012 05:57 AM
#1360
Originally Posted by UK_
DECEMBER?!?!?!?!?!!!!
Chrissake what happend to starting the trials in June 2011? -
I bet you they were held up by that damn court case. Aderans should finish up phase II this summer when they hit 350 - then its a looooong wait through Phase III lol.
Any news on Intercytex? lol only joking
Actually I read somewhere, and it is really hazy, somewhat questionable that some of the first participants for phase II trials were actually using Minox or Fin, so they had to scrap it all, and start all over... They are wininng the lawsuit so that shouldn't give them any more problems.
As for Aderans yeah they are finishing their phasse II trials. If they enter phase III trials this year than we have something to be happy about. Also it seems the results are at first weak but compoundable .
I am still rooting for Replicel(I've been rooting for Trichoscience from the start). As for Follica I think they are mostly in research side of it all...
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