Should I drop Avodart?

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  • win200
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 420

    Should I drop Avodart?

    I started taking .5mg of Avodart daily in late November, so I'm basically 3 months in. I'd been on 1.25mg Proscar daily for a year at that point and figured that I should just go for the big guns. I haven't dropped the finasteride.

    It's tough to tell, because I've had a hairline transplant, and it might be my mind playing tricks on my, but it looks like my hairline might be in slightly worse shape than when I started. I don't really see any increase in shedding, and the difference in slight, if any. But the hair in my hairline also seems in pretty mediocre shape--I can pull hairs out relatively easily (they don't seem well "anchored") and many of them are somewhat thin.

    I know the Avodart hairline topic is contentious, but I'm wondering if I should just drop the Avodart entirely. I'm on finasteride, seemed to respond well to it, and things don't really seem to have changed on Avodart.

    Thoughts?
  • Dan26
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 1270

    #2
    It's normal to shed first especially in the front while on avo. It certainly wont make your hair worse in the long run.Worst thing to do is hop off because of a shed. But if your content with what finasteride gave you stick to that.

    It seems like at around the 6 month mark things usually turn around for those on avo. I started in december and was doin good at first but now my front has took a big hit and is shedding. I've seen other peoples logs and the trend seems to fit, 3 month mark bad things start happening and around month 5 or 6 hair slowly but surely keeps improving.

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    • goldbondmafia
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2011
      • 406

      #3
      Originally posted by Dan26
      It's normal to shed first especially in the front while on avo. It certainly wont make your hair worse in the long run.Worst thing to do is hop off because of a shed. But if your content with what finasteride gave you stick to that.

      It seems like at around the 6 month mark things usually turn around for those on avo. I started in december and was doin good at first but now my front has took a big hit and is shedding. I've seen other peoples logs and the trend seems to fit, 3 month mark bad things start happening and around month 5 or 6 hair slowly but surely keeps improving.
      Dan how many times per week are you using fin/avo? BTW, you never used minox correct?

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      • Dan26
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 1270

        #4
        Originally posted by goldbondmafia
        Dan how many times per week are you using fin/avo? BTW, you never used minox correct?
        Startin fin and minox in august, dropped fin for dut in december (0.5mg ED). Still on minox, and RU (hairline only).

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        • goldbondmafia
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2011
          • 406

          #5
          Originally posted by Dan26
          Startin fin and minox in august, dropped fin for dut in december (0.5mg ED). Still on minox, and RU (hairline only).
          I see but your only using dut 0.5 daily or few times per week? Ive heard of many ppl doing fin 5x/week and dut 2x/week I may do that

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          • Dan26
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 1270

            #6
            Originally posted by goldbondmafia
            I see but your only using dut 0.5 daily or few times per week? Ive heard of many ppl doing fin 5x/week and dut 2x/week I may do that
            Every day man...My insurance covers it so I see no reason not to

            You could try adding it in once or twice a week, not sure what it will do for you. Even though it has a long half life that only applies when taken consistently, so I'd try at least 2 times per week to make it worth while.

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            • win200
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 420

              #7
              Resurrecting this. Thinking of hopping off dut for other reasons--main one being sleeplessness/insomnia. I've been on Avodart for ~4 months now, and the agonizing part is that it's much more effective for me than fin; it's basically reduced my shedding to nothing. But the insomnia is just kicking my ass and making me feel like a zombie. There's been a little libido reduction, but nothing I can't handle.

              Hate making this choice because the drug seems so effective for me so far.

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              • redy
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2013
                • 350

                #8
                1) are you sure the insomnia is due to the drug and not your stress about hair?

                2) try a better diet and better pre-sleeping habits.

                If these don't work then drop it?

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                • win200
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 420

                  #9
                  Originally posted by redy
                  1) are you sure the insomnia is due to the drug and not your stress about hair?

                  2) try a better diet and better pre-sleeping habits.

                  If these don't work then drop it?
                  1. Fairly positive it's not due to hair stress. My hair looks great now and I've barely been thinking about it. I am going through some relationship stress, though, so I'm going to wait until that resolves to fully judge. But it feels like something is systemically "off"--despite feeling exhausted, my body just won't go to sleep.

                  2. Diet is phenomenal. I'm a fitness nut and eat exceptionally well. Pre-sleeping habits are good, too--no computer screens, caffeine, etc.

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                  • Dan26
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 1270

                    #10
                    Hmm I find it odd you are getting insomnia man, dut makes me sleep more! It's really wierd I could sleep like 14hrs straight since being on dut, yet overall my energy level is not quite the same.

                    I've heard others say dut makes them sleepy also.

                    Maybe switch to EOD?

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                    • Jazz1
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 2052

                      #11
                      Try it once or twice a week?

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                      • Notcoolanymore
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 2260

                        #12
                        Originally posted by win200
                        1. I am going through some relationship stress,
                        I won't go into details, but this can cause some major issues with sleep as well as other things. I have been going through this type of stuff for close to 8 months now and had to deal with a number of issues: poor sleep quality, fatigue,...

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                        • win200
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 420

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Notcoolanymore
                          I won't go into details, but this can cause some major issues with sleep as well as other things. I have been going through this type of stuff for close to 8 months now and had to deal with a number of issues: poor sleep quality, fatigue,...
                          I think there's something to that. I've closed the door on the relationship stresses in the last week or so, and the sleep is improving a bit. But I still think there's a relationship to the DUT reduction. Something to consider. Still wouldn't dream of dropping Avodart, as my response has been great--far, far, better than Propecia, which never seemed to do much. (Tough to tell, though.)

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                          • Jazz1
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 2052

                            #14
                            Originally posted by win200
                            I think there's something to that. I've closed the door on the relationship stresses in the last week or so, and the sleep is improving a bit. But I still think there's a relationship to the DUT reduction. Something to consider. Still wouldn't dream of dropping Avodart, as my response has been great--far, far, better than Propecia, which never seemed to do much. (Tough to tell, though.)
                            Update us any recent pictures .

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                            • win200
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 420

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jazz1
                              Update us any recent pictures .
                              I'll take some when I get a chance. There's really not any VISIBLE difference--it's just the level of shedding. My hair behind the transplanted area is pretty thick, so I could lose a decent amount and it wouldn't be perceptible. My "great response," I mean that the drug has stopped my shedding. Maybe there's been regrowth, but it'd be buried behind the grafted hairline.

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