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  • didi
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 1372

    Spencer - Dr Nigam interview!!

    ...will not happen as Spencer is not convinced about Dr Nigam claims..In his latest radio show Spencer and Joe talked about dr Nigams HM.

    it might happen in the future if dr nigam impoves his website, stop fotoshopping images and presents something which will have wow effect...till then its considered snake oil

    among other things Spence also mentioned how he is not 100% sure that Ghos HST works as claimed and he wouldnt recommend family member to Gho
  • 534623
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 1865

    #2
    Originally posted by didi

    among other things Spence also mentioned how he is not 100% sure that Ghos HST works as claimed and he wouldnt recommend family member to Gho
    Are you sure? Should be punish him? Let me listen myself …


    00:21:20 >>>Dr. Nigam discussion starts …
    … and (pre-)ended with “… I would not send family members down there (to India)”

    00:23:40>>>
    “… Dr. Gho’s supporters and those who are interested in his work … he got his own section on the message forums … it’s important to see how this thing envolves … I certainly don’t see the same for Dr. Nigam at this point and he has shown nothing to us that proves that what he is doing, what he is offering in his praxis, is actually helping people – they just use these interviews to market themselves …”

    01:22:00 >Strip (FUT) procedures vs normal FUE procedures …
    “There are guys out there who hate when I say this, but I certainly believe...you get definitely more bang for your buck (with FUT procedures) …”

    That’s what he basically said concerning this issue.

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    • didi
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 1372

      #3


      Listen from 41st minute onwards

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      • clarence
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 278

        #4
        Originally posted by drnigam
        Thanx ,Hariri, i recieved an email from the ofice of SPENCER,he wanted to speak to me directly and asked for my skype id,which has been provided to him the day before.I saw ur pics on ur thread,keep updated about the progress. regards dr .nigam.
        Wanted to speak to him directly? Well Spencer doesn't sound much like he's waiting for an opportunity to speak to Nigam. All Spencer said was something about thebaldtruth getting his information for some purposes somehow I believe related to forum privileges


        Spencer: "he didn't skype me, actually i got an email from our moderator and uh, basically we'd ask for his skype information and we'd explained to him the protocol..." (of the forum or something, couldn't make out all of it)

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        • DepressedByHairLoss
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 876

          #5
          I too would love to see Spencer interview Dr. Nigam. I haven't been listening to the show lately because all they seem to talk about is hair transplants.

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          • 534623
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 1865

            #6
            Originally posted by didi
            Okay, I finally did it ...
            *******************************
            “I got an email from my moderator – we asked him for his skype information … we allowed him to post on the forums …look, at this point I think Dr. Nigam has to understand this, that if I desire to conduct an interview with him, he gets a certain credibility [means, just due to such an interview] that would bring more patients to him – that would obviously help him to increase his income. The truth is, I don’t feel comfortable with this at this point; I don’t see anything that he is able to bring to the table that has any solid data that can show this guy is multiplying hair.

            People asked me, I got some emails, “Why did you interview Dr. Gho?”
            Well, Dr. Gho has been around for a long time. He is providing a decent surgical hair restauration, for sure. And I think that he has a lot of good ideas and I have definitely read his work [Gho’s scientific papers] and there is some significant promise, so I wanted to put it out there.
            Now, I know that helped Dr. Gho tremendously. He has grown his practice tremendously. I made no money from Dr. Gho, whatsoever. But I don’t think that Dr. Gho brings people into harm’s way. And so, you know, I would not feel great about to bring this guy on [Dr. Nigam], who has, to me, been unable to show anything significant. If you look at Dr. Nigams unsophisticated website, you can’t blame him for that because he is practicing in India … if he can provide something in time… but I can’t see this at this point….I have not seen really good evidence…at this point I feel uncomfortable – is that fair?…It’s certainly not true that I will conduct an interview with him. Maybe in future…at this point it doesn’t seem reasonable to me.”

            00:45:30…concerning Dr. Gho again…
            “I have a great relationship with Dr. Gho. I’m not 100% convinced, that what he is doing, you know, is pure follicular regeneration, you know, the way that they are claiming, however, I do believe that he is working to a final goal, that could possibly benefit a lot of people. I also think that most parts the work that I have seen recently, the last years, has been very clean. So I have no problem with Dr. Gho. Would I tell a family member or friends or someone who loved to go to Dr. Gho for a hair transplant? Properly, [>>$$$$>>] not. At this point I would [>>$$$$>>] not. But this is just my opinion [>>$$$$>>], and I’m just this one guy.

            As for Dr. Nigam is concerned…I’m not comfortable to have him on the show…”

            00:45:30…concerning having Acell on the show [for comparison] and what happened thereafter with some listeners who got Acell procedures done…
            *******************************

            It's definitely not the perfect 1:1 transcript, but that's what I could hear and understand ...

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            • didi
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 1372

              #7
              even though Spencer and Dr Gho have an excellent relationship Spencer is still not 100% sure if HST works he way HASCI claims

              spence should really work on proving hst, 50 graft test will settle it

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              • 534623
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2011
                • 1865

                #8
                Originally posted by didi

                spence should really work on proving hst, 50 graft test will settle it
                Then they will say "it was just a 'staged' test procedure which doesn't work in daily clinical practice"...and didi has to wait at least further >10 years

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                • didi
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 1372

                  #9
                  Spencer is the most credible hair loss consumer advocate in the world, if he says hst works then it works

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                  • clarence
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 278

                    #10
                    I would send a family member...


                    ... before trying it on myself

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                    • One
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 132

                      #11
                      Nigam gave this response to a user of hairsite on the words of Spencer:



                      "I think Spencer views are reasonable.
                      Even i would have waited for more case studies and documentation if i was at his place.
                      Although i am not at bald truth for generating income from spencers endorsement.
                      Neither are intelligent and knowledgeable members so naive to take decisions on choices available to them.
                      I was open for the interview as members asked me, are you ready for the same.
                      As per your post it seems he has burnt his finger ,may be with partial endorsement of ACELL,when he says the members did not get desired results from ACELL(though ACELL had a good website as against mine and an ISHRS presentation...!).
                      Regarding dr gho,with whom he is partially convinced (with published data and good relationship),i am eager with my critical comments and debate to hear to his replies on the same.
                      Dr Ziering is the producer of the bald truth show.
                      He was invited many a times for his work on histogen,i have listened to his interview,in which he never claimed any significant result regarding hair multiplication,
                      dear spencer i don't think he came to the show just to increase his income with your esteemed endorsement.
                      I wonder why Dr WASHNIEK of ADERANS, Costaralis, japanese lead researchers, follica, replicell, phoenixbio biotechs, Dr Gerd, lauster and many other top guys with special interest on cellular hair generation not on your show, though they have a great website and published papers...!
                      Acell ,who are openly defying FDA,USA, which has never been given any approval on use or claim of acell for hair regeneration(only for wound healing) on your show.
                      Dear Spencer ,you yourself said 99% hair products in the market are fake or with poor efficacy than even rogaine and finasteride,and is there much left to discuss about fut,fue.
                      Only thing to seriously discuss and follow are hair multiplication , hair doubling ,dermal papilla culture and hair germ implants.
                      Ithought bald truth was about exchanging information,knowledge,new developments, critically exposing the good and bad points of a product or procedure,a platform to invite experts from diverse fields to explore cure of MPB.
                      But dear Spencer, is more worried about the possibility of some fake guys like me, make money out of his endorsement(as if the members are naive or not prudent to be able to decide on their own) ,
                      Did i ask for his endorsement,infact few of the members wanted him to prove me wrong.
                      Dear Spencer ,you will hear the most exciting developments regarding BALD TRUTH CURE from the people i mentioned above and me in the months to come.
                      We will hear each other one day...good luck.!
                      Your forum has helped in my research, i thank you for the same.
                      Henry Ford said
                      COMING TOGETHER IS BEGINNING
                      KEEPING TOGETHER IS PROGRESS
                      WORKING TOGETHER IS SUCCESS"

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                      • 534623
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 1865

                        #12
                        Originally posted by One

                        Nigam gave this response to a user of hairsite on the words of Spencer:
                        [...]
                        COMING TOGETHER IS BEGINNING
                        KEEPING TOGETHER IS PROGRESS
                        WORKING TOGETHER IS SUCCESS"
                        B.T. Barnum knew and said
                        "THERE'S A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTE."

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                        • garethbale
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 605

                          #13
                          Originally posted by 534623
                          B.T. Barnum knew and said
                          "THERE'S A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTE."
                          Read from the wikipedia link you just posted, you fool. Barnum is widely but erroneously credited as saying that phrase.

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                          • 534623
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 1865

                            #14
                            Originally posted by garethbale

                            Read from the wikipedia link you just posted, you fool. Barnum is widely but erroneously credited as saying that phrase.


                            Yeah, I can read - contrary to you.
                            In simple words, Barnum KNEW that there're lots of suckers like you out there, who pay for every shit and fraud - even hype it!

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                            • Winston
                              Moderator
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 943

                              #15
                              Originally posted by One
                              Nigam gave this response to a user of hairsite on the words of Spencer:

                              Dr Ziering is the producer of the bald truth show.

                              WORKING TOGETHER IS SUCCESS"
                              I think it's important to clarify that Dr. Craig Ziering is NOT the producer of The Bald Truth. I have no idea where Dr. Nigam heard this, but it is incorrect. He has simply been Spencer's guest. The Bald Truth is hosted and produced by Spencer Kobren.

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