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Old 07-06-2012, 03:45 PM   #1
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Can anyone shed any light on this? Perhaps a equol fan like 2020?

I dont care about the price, if it works and is much safer than fin.

Link me to studies, and explain how its safer.

Fin stops the production of DHT, which can seriously damage your sex life (if youre unlucky).

Equol binds to DHT, so it cant bind to receptors. But how does that not give you sexual side effects??
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Old 07-06-2012, 04:02 PM   #2
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It's 100% safe since it does not inhibit 5AR or alter any of your hormones but instead just bind straight to DHT.
Reduction of 5AR is what causes side effects with Fin/Dut:
http://www.propeciahelp.com/forum/vi...06e54183142649

so far no studies have been done specifically on MPB, but from its prostate studies we know that equol is very effective at blocking DHT:






some guy on HLT already bought a bunch of bottles of equol and will be taking it in 5x normal dose which should be enough to match the effectiveness of fin and maybe more so we'll see how it goes although I'm 99% sure that HE WILL get some positive results from it.
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Old 07-06-2012, 04:10 PM   #3
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No human tests so far?

Im confused as to lack of side effects. I know how to use my dick, but i dont know the bio mechanisms behind it.

Essentially, we need DHT to get an erection? So if equol binds to DHT, basically making it not dht...how does that not effect our sex lives?

Equol has been talked about for YEARS now, screw the price, if it works im in!
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Old 07-06-2012, 04:51 PM   #4
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Essentially, we need DHT to get an erection?
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Old 07-06-2012, 04:52 PM   #5
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Hahaha. What? Explain....
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Old 07-06-2012, 05:02 PM   #6
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Hahaha. What? Explain....
if DHT was needed to get an erection do you think Finasteride and Dutasteride would even exist?
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if DHT was needed to get an erection do you think Finasteride and Dutasteride would even exist?
Then explain it.....

I want to know why equol wont effect sexual activities but fin and dut can...
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http://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact...sed-on-S-equol
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Old 07-07-2012, 09:57 AM   #9
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Then explain it.....

I want to know why equol wont effect sexual activities but fin and dut can...
I think because instead of reducing levels of DHT like fin and dut do, equol just binds to existing DHT and somehow blocks it from messing with your hair. That's a pretty layman response, but I think that's the basic idea.
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:48 AM   #10
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I think because instead of reducing levels of DHT like fin and dut do, equol just binds to existing DHT and somehow blocks it from messing with your hair. That's a pretty layman response, but I think that's the basic idea.
I understand that part, but that means both fin and equol technically drop the DHT serum numbers drastically. The end point is the same. Less DHT.

So ive yet to hear a scientific explaination as to why there would be such a big difference in sides. People are acting as if equol has no sides.

The only explaination ive seen is that 30% of people are producers, and they are not impotent because of dropped DHT. But maybe those people have other mechanisms to compensate for equol production...that we dont, because we dont produce it.

Would love someone to prove me wrong, because im very curious about it...
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