Cutting edge products summary

[Kiwi]

The companies that are likely to release new products to market within the next 3 years:

- Allergen
- Histogen
- Aderans

[Kirby_]

- Follica?
- CB-03-01?
- Bimatoprost?
- OC000459?

[TravisB]

I think 3 years can be not enough. But until 2018 we should have something new. So try to save your hair now.

[jpm]

I don't know much about FDA trials but arent they pretty linear.

I.e. phase 1 takes x years
phase 2 x years
phase 3 x years

all assuming there are no problems with Histogen for example, which appear there aren't. Shouldn't be be able to predict quite accurately when a treatment will be released.

I'm fed up of hearing Histogen will be 'out in 2015' then someone else 'no its 2018' someone else '2020'

[Smiley]

Originally Posted by jpm

I'm fed up of hearing Histogen will be 'out in 2015' then someone else 'no its 2018' someone else '2020'

Same here, truth is nobody knows. The companies themselves probably don't even know.

[Davey Jones]

Originally Posted by jpm

I don't know much about FDA trials but arent they pretty linear.

I.e. phase 1 takes x years
phase 2 x years
phase 3 x years

all assuming there are no problems with Histogen for example, which appear there aren't. Shouldn't be be able to predict quite accurately when a treatment will be released.

I'm fed up of hearing Histogen will be 'out in 2015' then someone else 'no its 2018' someone else '2020'

Originally Posted by Smiley

Same here, truth is nobody knows. The companies themselves probably don't even know.

Though it is possible to predict, but you gotta take into consideration what the prediction is based on. There's the "In my fantasy world where nothing goes wrong, it'll probably be out yesterday" predictions, and the "I'm going to be bald forever, but it could maybe be out in Stardate 92905" predictions. Ignore all those right off the bat, and you've got a pretty solid base.

Assuming a company eventually puts out a product at all, the length of trials plus a year or two isn't overly optimistic. (Subtract Phase III trials for countries where that applies.)

[the_dude78]

Originally Posted by Smiley

Same here, truth is nobody knows. The companies themselves probably don't even know.

I remember reading somewhere that the average time from a drug goes into clinical trials and till it goes out to the consumer is 8 years. But yes, we can guess all we want. I'd like to have it now, please.

[Thinning@30]

When comes to clinical trials there seems to be inevitable timeline creep. What the companies report is usually a best case scenario. In reality, things happen that cause delays. The trials don't go as planned, results are unexpected, regulators are not prompt, etc. The timelines published on the Histogen and Aderans websites have been there for a while. If they haven't been refreshed in light of new information (e.g. Histogen moving Phase I/II trials from Singapore to the Philippines), I don't think we should treat them as reliable.

Also, I don't think any of the companies have announced plans or even a willingness to release a product anywhere in the world before the completion of Phase III trials.

[Gjm127]

Thanks for making this thread. Treatments are all over the place and I got lost...

Anyway, can someone please update us on where every product is in the trials?
Also, what the treatment really is? (ie. PGD2 inhibitor, stemcells, injection, etc...)

Please don't say "search the forum", because all the information is mixed up all over every thread, it's hard to recap the whole situation.

Thanks in advance

[Tracy C]

Originally Posted by jpm

I'm fed up of hearing Histogen will be 'out in 2015' then someone else 'no its 2018' someone else '2020'

So am I. This stuff is all nonsense speculation. I feel we will have a better more effective treatment available within three years. I also feel we will have a true cure available within five years. That is how I feel and I am sticking to it until I see reasonably good evidence to the contrary.