hair loss - body hair correlation??

[bertrumhenderson]

hi there

i am wondering if there is any correlation between chest hair (if you have a lot of it) and hair loss? or even facial hair (the amount you can grow/thickness) and hair loss?

thank you.

[Havok]

body hair count is not indicative of hair loss. some have a lot of body hair. some have a lot of hair on their scalp. some have a lot of both. some have very little of both. you're either cursed with male pattern baldness or you're not

[BackwardsBalding]

Let me correct this last post because they are wrong.

hi there

i am wondering if there is any correlation between chest hair (if you have a lot of it) and hair loss? or even facial hair (the amount you can grow/thickness) and hair loss?

thank you.

Oh god. When I seen the first response I nearly passed out. Yes there is a correlation between facial hair and hair loss. Its unfortunate that soo many myths just get spread from people who don't know what there talking about. DHT activates hair on your face this is why you will notice that during your time of initial hair loss you will see that facial hair density will increase at about the same rate your head hair decreases. This is also why even the best heads of hair have unnoticable hair loss when they hit 16 and thin out a little from there boyish head of hear thus activating there facial hair to grow. This is science, DHT spikes naturally around the age of 16 to activate facial hair and some hair else where as well.

[Havok]

Oh god. When I seen the first response I nearly passed out. Yes there is a correlation between facial hair and hair loss. Its unfortunate that soo many myths just get spread from people who don't know what there talking about. DHT activates hair on your face this is why you will notice that during your time of initial hair loss you will see that facial hair density will increase at about the same rate your head hair decreases. This is also why even the best heads of hair have unnoticable hair loss when they hit 16 and thin out a little from there boyish head of hear thus activating there facial hair to grow. This is science, DHT spikes naturally around the age of 16 to activate facial hair and some hair else where as well.

so facial hair density and scalp hair density is inversely correlated is what you're alluding to?

men with thick hair won't grow thick beards and also the other way around?

my apologies for not knowing jack shit and spreading false rumors

[Samiam]

This honestly has to be the stupidest thing to deal with. I would hate it. I mean Wtf cmon there has to be some kind of cure and permanent solution. Why the **** does one chemical that causes some hair to grow make others minituraize. I mean its all hair anyways right. Why only on peoples heads?? Why can't we make the hair on our heads less sensitive to dht like the hair on our arms legs balls etc. Wtf this problem should be solved by now

[Follicle Death Row]

Don't know but I've got the good old MPB and else where I'm as hairy as fook. Could do without the back hair that's really beginning to take hold. You know I'd like to think that I'm not losing hair and that it's merely migrating in the summer to my back and will surely return to my head in the cold of winter. Seasonal migration and such. Fingers crossed.

[bertrumhenderson]

hey, i just checked my old threads and noticed i'd gotten some replies in here... so sorry for the major bump, but it saves me making a new topic

so... hair loss IS related to facial hair growth, more so than body hair growth?

[znydn]

There must be a connection. After all hair loss is related with the low levels of ceratin in human blood system up to an extent. So as there is a low level of ceratine in the body, a hairloss or lack of facial - scalp hair is inevitable in my eyes.

[bertrumhenderson]

you think so? are you referring to just facial hair or chest hair?

[znydn]

I have no scientific fact for that arguement, that's just my idea. And Not for body hair I think, it might be correlated with all the body, even legs. As age grows older, you slowly have shedding in the legs, pubic etc. and you start getting a stronger and denser beard, so there might be a correlation. Will be researching for that.

[Follicle Death Row]

I think there's probably a link between body hair/facial hair and speed of hair loss. High DHT means a lot of body hair and facial hair growth. If you're genetically programmed to lose your hair then high DHT levels will ensure you get there faster.

I'd hazard a guess that there's a correlation between body hair+facial hair and speed of progression of hair loss due to secondary role or side effect of DHT.

[mattj]

I think there's probably a link between body hair/facial hair and speed of hair loss. High DHT means a lot of body hair and facial hair growth. If you're genetically programmed to lose your hair then high DHT levels will ensure you get there faster.

I'd hazard a guess that there's a correlation between body hair+facial hair and speed of progression of hair loss due to secondary role or side effect of DHT.

I'm not totally discounting the idea of a correlation, but I myself have quite a lot of body hair and my hairloss was slow, even before I started taking Propecia.

[bertrumhenderson]

i was reading wikipedia, because that's SUCH a reliable source ... and i looked up 'baldness', and within the article, there's a 'sign's and symptoms section'. in that it mentions body hair, and says this;

"Excessive body hair in men is an indication that hair thinning of the head might occur. Studies have shown that if a man has complete chest hair, he is around 50% more likely to become bald, increasing to 90% if he has total body hair. In women, excessive body hair (hirsutism) or a sudden appearance of body hair may indicate the same hormonal imbalances that cause hair loss."

i don't know how true it is, but even so, what would be classed as 'complete' chest hair??

something along the lines of alec baldwin? or would any small amount of chest hair be classed as complete?

[Follicle Death Row]

i was reading wikipedia, because that's SUCH a reliable source ... and i looked up 'baldness', and within the article, there's a 'sign's and symptoms section'. in that it mentions body hair, and says this;

"Excessive body hair in men is an indication that hair thinning of the head might occur. Studies have shown that if a man has complete chest hair, he is around 50% more likely to become bald, increasing to 90% if he has total body hair. In women, excessive body hair (hirsutism) or a sudden appearance of body hair may indicate the same hormonal imbalances that cause hair loss."

i don't know how true it is, but even so, what would be classed as 'complete' chest hair??

something along the lines of alec baldwin? or would any small amount of chest hair be classed as complete?

I'd agree with that. Also though they're not sure of the exact genetics behind it what they do know is the androgen receptor characteristics come from the X chromosome (your mother) but there is also an influence from the Y chromosome you inherit from your father. It seems to be autosomal dominant with mixed penetrance or something like that. In other words you can have the genotype (genes for it) but it won't always express itself in the same way seemingly. So you'll experience some hairloss but you may not go nw6 whereas someone else with a similar genetic makeup could go nw6. Definitely seems to be multifactorial. Must be an environmental or epigentics influence there somewhere also.

[skullbox]

lol