Histogen Update - Spencer Kobren Speaks With Dr. Craig L. Ziering

[RichardDawkins]

WHO and from WHERE did guys here have informations about some "Delay" i didnt find anything here.

Who started this rumors

[UK_]

But then I think of the likes of Pierluigi Santi and how they just led us all on - that was 5 years ago, back then they were saying a cure and HM will be here in 3 - 4 years, id also like to know from the horses mouth preferably regarding this delay.

I dont care if the researchers are having troubles, what I hate is clinging on to the hope with no information at all, no updates - good or bad -

[Hurts]

unfortunate times

[UK_]

unfortunate times

lol - I just dont get it though, it can't just be a matter of.. "we just havn't the capacity to cure hair loss" - think of the economic benefits such a medical cure would bring - I propose as equal or perhaps greater than the birth of the internet - I mean it would send shockwaves throughout sectors, worldwide retail outlets, clubs, bars, tourist attractions - entire service sectors would be thriving with millions upon millions of people with a new found confidence and purpose. The only reason people "dont bother" is because they dont seem to bother - but deep down EVERY sufferer would take the cure if it arrived.

It is crazy to say people arnt affected by hair loss, that is RIDICULOUS! What people don't wanna to look their best these days? People want to look younger, live longer and be healthier.

[Hurts]

lol - I just dont get it though, it can't just be a matter of.. "we just havn't the capacity to cure hair loss" - think of the economic benefits such a medical cure would bring - I propose as equal or perhaps greater than the birth of the internet - I mean it would send shockwaves throughout sectors, worldwide retail outlets, clubs, bars, tourist attractions - entire service sectors would be thriving with millions upon millions of people with a new found confidence and purpose. The only reason people "dont bother" is because they dont seem to bother - but deep down EVERY sufferer would take the cure if it arrived.

It is crazy to say people arnt affected by hair loss, that is RIDICULOUS! What people don't wanna to look their best these days? People want to look younger, live longer and be healthier.

We've known the cause for cancer for decades, yet there still isn't a proper cure. With hair loss, we kind of know the cause thanks to recent studies (I mean the faulty stem cell issue), we definiately dont know about hair as much as we do about cancer. So expecting a cure so would be a bit optimistic unfortunately

But I could be and probably am wrong.

[RichardDawkins]

My question wasnt answered. WHO did WHERE got the informations about the delay?

[HairTalk]

Sorry for my absence but this is the latest "official word" on Histogen.
We're starting to recruit first week in June in Singapore, total of 50 pts. As a reminder each patient gets 8 injections of control and HSC anterior and posterior. The posterior gets a second set of 8 injections at week 6.

There has been limited case studies going on in Japan but they have been hampered by all the events there.

Unfortunately this stuff happens very slowly(which equally dissappoints and frustrates me ) and everyone has to be very careful with what they say and report because there are many people hanging on to every word. I know that many of my colleagues are searching for solutions and I am confident that we will bring help and hope to many hairloss sufferers but we have to be patient or we derail these projects before that really get going .

I cant respond to this thread daily but I assure you I will update you and Spencer with any new worthwhile information that I get.

I thank you all for your support,patience and interest.

Best always
Doc Z

Thank you for posting, Dr. Ziering. Shall we understand, then, Histogen will begin recruiting subjects for its H.S.C. trial, in June, 2011, or that the trial itself will commence at this time? If the former, on what date does Histogen expect to begin the actual study?

Also, am I correct in interpreting each of the fifty subjects you mention will serve both as a control and an experimental specimen? That is, will one side of the head receive placebo injections, and the other receive H.S.C.?

Thank you again for updating us to Histogen's plans with this compound. We wish you the best.

[RichardDawkins]

Thanks Dr Z :-) with people hanging on every word, you not happen to mean like competitors :-) Last time i checked this will be a hard battle in the future for HM technologies :-)

Thanks for the Update ^^

[UK Boy]

Timeline

Hi Dr Z

Thank you for the update it's really appreciated. Is this going to alter the previous timeline much or are you still aiming for an Asian release in 2014?

[UK_]

Sorry for my absence but this is the latest "official word" on Histogen.
We're starting to recruit first week in June in Singapore, total of 50 pts. As a reminder each patient gets 8 injections of control and HSC anterior and posterior. The posterior gets a second set of 8 injections at week 6.

There has been limited case studies going on in Japan but they have been hampered by all the events there.

Unfortunately this stuff happens very slowly(which equally dissappoints and frustrates me ) and everyone has to be very careful with what they say and report because there are many people hanging on to every word. I know that many of my colleagues are searching for solutions and I am confident that we will bring help and hope to many hairloss sufferers but we have to be patient or we derail these projects before that really get going .

I cant respond to this thread daily but I assure you I will update you and Spencer with any new worthwhile information that I get.

I thank you all for your support,patience and interest.

Best always
Doc Z

Oh my God - thank you so much for getting back to us all! I hope everything goes well for you and the team at Histogen. I appreciate all of your help Dr Ziering, thank you again!

btw - great questions@HairTalk - id like info on those questions also.

Dr Naughton stated trials would begin at the end of May, I dont see the big deal of them now beginning at the start of June, I just had this horrid thought that it may be June 2012 lol.

[CVAZBAR]

Wow! Out of nowhere haha. Thanks Doc Z

[CVAZBAR]

We've known the cause for cancer for decades, yet there still isn't a proper cure. With hair loss, we kind of know the cause thanks to recent studies (I mean the faulty stem cell issue), we definiately dont know about hair as much as we do about cancer. So expecting a cure so would be a bit optimistic unfortunately

But I could be and probably am wrong.

People always bring up cancer, I'm not a doc or scientist but it just don't seem like a good comparison. I assume cancer is way more complicated. Even a crap drug like Propecia has done wonders for people and studies for hair loss have been minimal. I hope it's not like cancer.

[HairTalk]

We've known the cause for cancer for decades, yet there still isn't a proper cure. With hair loss, we kind of know the cause thanks to recent studies (I mean the faulty stem cell issue), we definiately dont know about hair as much as we do about cancer. So expecting a cure so would be a bit optimistic unfortunately

But I could be and probably am wrong.

Have we "known the cause [of] cancer for decades"? We know some of the genes involved; we know what happens to cells, and some ways in which to try to target the neoplastic ones; we know a number of carcinogens. That's reallly about it, isn't it? We don't know exactly why cancer happens to spontaneously develop in people, and we haven't any sound measures of prophylaxis.

As for hairloss, I hear a lot about D.H.T., but I'd be surprised if that turned out to be the sole cause of androgenic alopecia: D.H.T. is an endogenous product of testosterone in all human beings, yet not all of them go bald; further, it hits all hair follicles, yet only some permanently disappear. Finasteride inhibits 5-alpha reductase, thus preventing the catalysis of testosterone to D.H.T., and it seems to do a pretty good job of it; yet Propecia hardly "halts" baldness, in most men — even when it works, it seems to just help slow it down.

Ultimately, I don't feel we know a tremendous amount about either of these two phenomena, yet, and that what we do know is of reasonable, but very limited, clinical utility.

[CVAZBAR]

2014/15 or as soon as possible

So if all goes well there's no chance for 2013? I thought I remember hearing it was possible. I guess too much time was waisted and trials won't be done by that time, I'm assuming. Man I wish it was 2013.

[Latitude]

I’m just as anxious as the next guy looking for a better treatment, however I have a hard time believing Histogen is wasting time, time is money after all, and I’m sure they would like to have a safe and effective product on the market sooner rather than later, in fact completing the trials in Asia proves this. Let’s hope it does not take too long to recruit study participants and that Dr. Ziering keeps us informed of the results as the study progresses.