Spencer Kobren Interviews Replicel's CEO Concerning Latest Clinical Trial Results

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  • gmonasco
    Inactive
    • Apr 2010
    • 883

    #46
    Originally posted by Conpecia
    This is a bit over the top. They are a company driven by economic incentives. It's not like they're making this out of the goodness of their hearts and giving it to us for free.
    True, companies are based on economic interests, but it's people, not companies, who develop medical treatments. Not everyone who labors to find cures for man's ailments is solely or primarily driven by economic motives (beyond those of making a living) -- many people engaged in such work don't stand to make any more money from developing a successful treatment than an unsuccessful one.

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    • gmonasco
      Inactive
      • Apr 2010
      • 883

      #47
      Originally posted by jman91
      the daily mail is full of drivel
      More ignorance. The very same information can be found in plenty of other (more august) outlets than the Daily Mail:

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      • jman91
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 238

        #48
        Originally posted by gmonasco
        More ignorence, The very same information can be found in plenty of other (more august) outlet's than the Daily Mail:

        http://www.myscience.me.uk/news/2012...2012-Sheffield

        who would have thought the same story would be out there in the world of recycled internet news! I'm glad these credible scientists were at least responsible enough to repeat words like 'if' 'may' 'could' 'hopes' etc. With 3D organ printing being so relevant hair loss treatments one does wonder why the Daily Mail, being the patron saint of baldness cures would somehow miss an opportunity to spin a science research story into a cure for baldness headline, even they didn't go for it, what is the world coming to!

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        • WillhasWill
          Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 59

          #49
          Originally posted by Conpecia
          This is a bit over the top. They are a company driven by economic incentives. It's not like they're making this out of the goodness of their hearts and giving it to us for free. While I do realize they are heavily criticized around here, often unfairly, I can understand why someone who invested in them after relying on all of the hype that's been building up this year would be upset given these results.
          Replicel do not have a product to market yet and they have not taken money from customers on a promise to cure hair loss. Therefore I don't believe any one in this forum has the right to criticize Replicel so harshly.

          If people have invested then this is a different ball game. They should really be thinking with their heads and like investors. Business is business. From an investors point of view, Replicel is high risk and the return on investment will not be quick. We all know they are 5+ years from releasing treatment if it's successful.

          If a lot of the criticism is coming from "investors" then this explains the problem. They are desperate sufferers of baldness investing in the cure for baldness. No wonder emotions are so high.

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          • gmonasco
            Inactive
            • Apr 2010
            • 883

            #50
            Originally posted by jman91
            who would have thought the same story would be out there in the world of recycled internet news!
            People like you, who clearly can't discern the difference between original reporting and "recycled news."

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            • BoSox
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 708

              #51
              Great interview. Although I was depressed after reading through the forums, hearing it directly from David Hall and Spencer calmed me down.

              Replicel is moving forward, and that's all that matters.

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              • jman91
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 238

                #52
                Originally posted by BoSox
                Great interview. Although I was depressed after reading through the forums, hearing it directly from David Hall and Spencer calmed me down.

                Replicel is moving forward, and that's all that matters.
                [inappropriate image removed]

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                • gmonasco
                  Inactive
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 883

                  #53
                  Originally posted by WillhasWill
                  If people have invested then this is a different ball game. They should really be thinking with their heads and like investors. Business is business. From an investors point of view, Replicel is high risk and the return on investment will not be quick.
                  Indeed. It's not like someone took their stock away, or Replicel has gone belly-up and made the stock valueless. Sure, the stock isn't currently worth what it was a week ago, but a week ago it wasn't worth nearly as much as it was last September. That's what you should expect when you speculate in stocks.

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                  • jman91
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 238

                    #54
                    Originally posted by gmonasco
                    Indeed.Sure, the stock isn't currently worth what it was a week ago, but a week ago it wasn't worth nearly as much as it was last September. .
                    surely unless they do another phase of trials, they're toast?

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                    • Tracy C
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 3125

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Kiwi
                      I agree. I'm super curios to know if the terminal becomes vellus - if it does then they have hit 15% new growth.

                      Then if you use Aderans or Histogen on top of RepliCel then you might get 40-50-70% and possibly halt your hair loss. Ahhh fingers crossed...
                      You have that kind of backwards... Use Histogen's treatment to regrow as many new hair follciles as possible, then use Replicel's treatment to immunize those regrown follicles from the damaging effects of DHT. Histogen's treatment does not immunize hair follicles. Regrown hair from Histogen's treatment is expected to last as long as the patients original hair lasted. So if you started balding at 20 years old, the regrown hair from Histogen's treatment could reasonably be expected to last almost 20 years.

                      Though Aderans has been able to grow hair, they have not been able to get the regrown hair to grow in a proper natural direction of growth. It's all willy nilly like muppet hair. It is too soon to know what regrown hair from Replicel's treatment looks like. However, it is reasonable to expect that Replicel's treatment should immunize hair follicles in addition to repairing damaged hair follicles - and that is a very significant and important thing.

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                      • Kiwi
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 1105

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Tracy C
                        You have that kind of backwards... Use Histogen's treatment to regrow as many new hair follciles as possible, then use Replicel's treatment to immunize those regrown follicles from the damaging effects of DHT. Histogen's treatment does not immunize hair follicles. Regrown hair from Histogen's treatment is expected to last as long as the patients original hair lasted. So if you started balding at 20 years old, the regrown hair from Histogen's treatment could reasonably be expected to last almost 20 years.

                        Though Aderans has been able to grow hair, they have not been able to get the regrown hair to grow in a proper natural direction of growth. It's all willy nilly like muppet hair. It is too soon to know what regrown hair from Replicel's treatment looks like. However, it is reasonable to expect that Replicel's treatment should immunize hair follicles in addition to repairing damaged hair follicles - and that is a very significant and important thing.
                        Thanks for the clarification. I always enjoy reading stuff from you.

                        So do you think we'll hear anything from Histogen this year?

                        Also I was thinking. Even if the Aderans hair is all Willy Wonka - does it matter if in theory you'll be able to wax / style it? (also how do you know about that stuff).

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                        • kaandereli
                          Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 57

                          #57
                          Even though replicel's results fall back of histogen and aderans, so far they have been more transparent and never resort to rescheduling unlike others.Also currently they are the only one who established direct contact with public via facebook, twitter and spencer.
                          histogen and aderan's have a prolonged work , dating back to 10 years before.whereas replicel made their 1st human trial 6 months before.
                          replicel just needs some time.

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                          • raminjan
                            Junior Member
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 2

                            #58
                            I hope so too.

                            I agree with you too and I wish if more time would solve this baldness problem with repicell but we need to consider this: naturally if your hair cells are weak enough to produce hair, then they produce hair at the microscopic level under your skin so I don't know why Repicell calls it's results a positive and optimistic resutls.

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                            • Sogeking
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 497

                              #59
                              The trials results are nothing spectacular actually they are kind of disappointing.
                              Especially when we know they injected high dosage of DSC cells into the test area.
                              However if they go back to the drawing board, research this some more than who knows. We will see what time brings us. I hope they succeed.
                              But our knowledge of hair follicles is still too meager, there are perhaps some crucial growth factors or fillcle parts missing for this to work even better.

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                              • Tracy C
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 3125

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Kiwi
                                Also I was thinking. Even if the Aderans hair is all Willy Wonka - does it matter if in theory you'll be able to wax / style it?
                                I feel it does matter. Dr. Washenik has talked about how Aderans is trying to overcome that problem during conferences.



                                Originally posted by Kiwi
                                (also how do you know about that stuff).
                                I pay attention.

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