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Old 07-29-2012, 07:50 AM   #61
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I don't give a Rats A** how much money he has or how long his waiting list is.
Every accepted method in medical hair restoration good or lousy has been documented over and over so there is enough evidence out there for any person to make a decision. If Dr. Gho is not more transparent HST will never be the "new standard" and there will always be questions.
Yes I know you don't give a rat ass but that's the whole point! You not giving a rat ass will not affect his goals neither will I. His stuff being mainstream HT will not kill him either ! In fact, making it mainstream might end up being a bad thing for Gho.

He has to find a way to make the most money from it without copycats or others reducing his price.

The only who may be missing out this is us.

You can't force Gho to give you more proof than what he already has provided, if you can call that proof because he doesn't give a rat ass.

Nobody will kill him or ruin his business, he is doing just fine.

Don't get me wrong, I am not 100% Gho-liever. But I know there are some truth to what he claims.

+90% recipient growth seems too much. I don't buy all of it yet.

Wether you are proved wrong or right it does not affect him, just you.

Also you may be a bit wrong of FUT and FUE being well documented.
There isn't really a study of those things and they are not FDA approved.

There isn't really a need for those but just throwing it out there bro.

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Old 07-29-2012, 08:15 AM   #62
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What proofs you asking for ? What would convince you that HST is real ?
A controlled trial with at least ten patients who have their donor areas evaluated and counted before HST and then one year after. If there is at least 80% donor regrowth and the remaining hair is the same thickness as it was pre HST. I could live with that.
Instead of the cute plastic model Dr. Gho uses to show how he extracts the stem cell why not actually film the real procedure up close. Dr. Ray Woods brought this up on Hairsite and it makes common sense.
I really want to believe that he's the s**t but I've undergone too many ground-breaking medical procedure because of my diabetes that did not pan out as promised so I don't trust any single doctor no matter how Rich they are or how long their waiting list is.
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Old 07-29-2012, 08:17 AM   #63
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A controlled trial with at least ten patients who have their donor areas evaluated and counted before HST and then one year after. If there is at least 80% donor regrowth and the remaining hair is the same thickness as it was pre HST. I could live with that.
Instead of the cute plastic model Dr. Gho uses to show how he extracts the stem cell why not actually film the real procedure up close. Dr. Ray Woods brought this up on Hairsite and it makes common sense.
I really want to believe that he's the s**t but I've undergone too many ground-breaking medical procedure because of my diabetes that did not pan out as promised so I don't trust any single doctor no matter how Rich they are or how long their waiting list is.
I think there is a study like that for HST. I'm not sure about the 1 year after thing though. Try google.com. Seriously because I am not sure lol.

I don't like Dr. Woods anymore. He seems a bit crazy. Dr. Cole I hope can help us out!

Found it ! Anyways it's not everything you ask but it's something.

Dr. Gho mentioned he will repeat the study with 100 patients by this year or so I heard.

Background: There are different stem cell pools located in the hair follicle. Objective: To try to determine whether follicular units can survive a partial extraction and whether this partial extracted follicular unit can regenerate new hairs. Methods: From five individuals, between 100 and 150 grafts were harvested from the occipital area of the scalp. Suitable grafts were implanted into the recipient area. Hair growth and characteristics in the donor area and the recipient area were observed at different intervals. Results: After 3 months, between 92.1% and 104.1% (mean 97.7%) of the partial follicular units in the donor sites survived and produced hairs with the same characteristics. After 1 year, 91.1–101.7% (mean 95.9%) of the implanted partial follicular units regenerated hair growth with the same characteristics as the hairs in the donor area. Conclusions: We revealed that extracted partial longitudinal follicular units transplanted to the recipient area can be used as complete follicular units to regenerate completely differentiated hair growth with the same characteristics as in the donor area. We also revealed that the partial follicular units in the donor area can survive and produce the same number of hairs with the same characteristics. This technique enables us to generate two hair follicles from one follicle with consistent results and preserve the donor area.


Read More: http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs...46630903359814

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Old 07-29-2012, 08:41 AM   #64
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If he does it with 100 subjects and makes the study available to the medical community it will do a lot to verify his claim. Let's hope you guys are right and my suspicions are unfounded.
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Old 07-29-2012, 08:52 AM   #65
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If he does it with 100 subjects and makes the study available to the medical community it will do a lot to verify his claim. Let's hope you guys are right and my suspicions are unfounded.
I don't hope.

It made sense to me even before I started balding which was last year...if you check my threads.

It just makes sense. If you pluck your hair out of your scalp hard. You're taking out tissue,stem cells and other stuff and the hair STILL grows back. Doing this however for HT requires the skill of an alien. This is pretty advanced stuff and I can't fukin believe one guy figured it all out.

The presence and location of stem cells and even some of the alleged ingredients Dr. Gho uses in his medium are well documented in other papers as well. It's just too much coincidence.

Now we have gc83uk.


Not only do I know of gc83uk but I know of danielmillo and can communicate with him ! He also had the procedure.

I believe the regeneration is real. It is no big deal, there are other papers documenting regeneration but not as good as Gho.

What should be more looked at is the real recipient growth percentage with the donor regeneration percentage together along with a close up photo of the grafts inside the medium he uses.

Documenting donor regeneration won't prove anything. You will see guys like gc83uk over and over and this is not enough to convince most people.

We need to know more about the "boosting medium".

That's the final piece of the puzzle.
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:51 AM   #66
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We need to know more about the "boosting medium".

That's the final piece of the puzzle.
Spencer was talking about Dr. Gho a few weeks ago he said he was setting up another interview. I think he also suggested that one of the ingredients of the special boosting formula was not FDA approved. Now that could mean d**K since the FDA is truly a backwards organization. So you're right there.
We do need to know.
Again I'm not hating the "Ghoists" they're braver than me!
I just think a number of guys would be more open to the procedure if everything was more transparent.
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:07 AM   #67
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Spencer was talking about Dr. Gho a few weeks ago he said he was setting up another interview. I think he also suggested that one of the ingredients of the special boosting formula was not FDA approved. Now that could mean d**K since the FDA is truly a backwards organization. So you're right there.
We do need to know.
Again I'm not hating the "Ghoists" they're braver than me!
I just think a number of guys would be more open to the procedure if everything was more transparent.
Many ppl beleive that the evidence are enough to convince them.
And even some ppl who are not fully convinced about the re-generation are welling to give HST a shot.. With gho you really got little to lose unlike other traditional procedures since there is no scars and if things go wrong you can just shave and move on.
If you are an advanced case FUT and FUE are not even a valid option, since your donor is limited and most likely won't be enough to cover all bald spots so you might lose more native hair and end up with patches of hair here and there and you are doomed since you won't have donor supply to fix this and you can't even shave with the scars on the back of your head.
Im pretty convinced about regeneration but for ppl who are not, they still should consider HST for the neelde size, recovery time and no scaring.
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Many ppl beleive that the evidence are enough to convince them.
And even some ppl who are not fully convinced about the re-generation are welling to give HST a shot.. With gho you really got little to lose unlike other traditional procedures since there is no scars and if things go wrong you can just shave and move on.
If you are an advanced case FUT and FUE are not even a valid option, since your donor is limited and most likely won't be enough to cover all bald spots so you might lose more native hair and end up with patches of hair here and there and you are doomed since you won't have donor supply to fix this and you can't even shave with the scars on the back of your head.
Im pretty convinced about regeneration but for ppl who are not, they still should consider HST for the neelde size, recovery time and no scaring.
The funny thing is that FUE beleivers always warn from going for 1+ mm needles and advice to go for smaller needles .75 - .9 !!! Gho uses .5 -.6 needle which will make a significant diffrence to .75 - .9 just like .75-.9 needles made a significant diffrence to 1+ mm
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Old 07-29-2012, 11:40 AM   #69
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Many ppl beleive that the evidence are enough to convince them.
And even some ppl who are not fully convinced about the re-generation are welling to give HST a shot.. With gho you really got little to lose unlike other traditional procedures since there is no scars and if things go wrong you can just shave and move on.
If you are an advanced case FUT and FUE are not even a valid option, since your donor is limited and most likely won't be enough to cover all bald spots so you might lose more native hair and end up with patches of hair here and there and you are doomed since you won't have donor supply to fix this and you can't even shave with the scars on the back of your head.
Im pretty convinced about regeneration but for ppl who are not, they still should consider HST for the neelde size, recovery time and no scaring.
Like I said a lot of guys here are braver than me. Go for it and let us follow your progress.
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