help me guys , will fin loss its power ?

[coolforyou]

The Dude: -

Hi, difficult one to call this. From what you say, the waning effect of the drug is evident in the hairline? When you say you are seeing a shed, is there anything that you have changed in your life that could contribute to this? Again, I would seek out a good IAHRS Doctor and go from there. Yes you could look at increasing your dosage, but let an expert assess this. At this point, you could try incorporating Minoxidil. I used to use the 5% liquid which was a real pain and seemed to interrupt my day. Plus, I had major irratation which could get quite bad. I'm happy to say that since I've now switched to the 5% foam (on the advice of Spex), all this has gone away. The foam is very easy to apply and actually feels good in that it could almost be seen as a styling tool (think of hair mousse!). So you have Minoxidil as one option. Secondly, you have laser therapy. Very controversial and I don't want to push this as it is not as well respected. However, I have a Hairmax Lasercomb and I genuinelly believe it has some benefit in regards to hair rentention. I don't suggest going out and buying out one immediately as you have to weigh up the pro's and con's of introducing any new therapy. Check out the list of IAHRS and go to their websites. If you look at the non surgical treatmens sections, there are many doctors who (cautiously) suggest using laser treatment (Bauman, Charles, Ziering, Reece and even Shapiro among others). Like I said, it's an option to consider. If you are going to introduce a new therapy, try and do so in a controlled manner so that you can assess the benefit of each on an individual basis.

All that aside, with regards to the hairline, you may have to accept a slow advancement of reccession, at least until a new therapy emerges (which will happen at some point in the forseeable) as generally it is the hardest area to treat non-surgically. I should note that Minoxidil alone kept me at a Norwood 3 (ish) for over ten years. Whilst I'm not as "plentiful" as I was then, I'm still a 3 now even before I started Propecia. Don't think that any deteoriation will mean an inevitable fast decline.

If you see a doctor, maybe they can discuss PRP with you. I'm unsure whether or not ACELL is a standalone treatment or simply an adjunct to surgery.

Bottom line, if you are noticing a little waning at the temples on Propecia alone after 5 years, I would'nt panic. Look into my suggestions and stay positive as there are options.

8868alex,

mate , one upon a time i used MINOXIDIL ,but as you said it was irritating and created scalp inflammation and i am still suffering from scalp inflammation .

Can you please suggest me any medicine like MINOXIDIL which gives the good benefits in regrowth and reduces the scalp inflammation as well ....thanks in advance mate

[8868alex]

I would give the Rogaine foam a go. It is very differant to the normal minoxidil. I have to say that any side effects I got with regards to discomfort have completely gone away. I think it is because the foam does'nt contain alcohol (which causes the discomfort). My advice would be to try this as an adjunct therapy and see how you get on first.

Good luck

[TheDude]

Hay 8868alex thanks alot for the reply..

Yeah the thinning is evident in the hairline.. Where i live there's not much information on MPB or any doctors that specifically deal with it..

I use 9% minox twice a day.. i decided that it was causing rather than helping my hairloss so i started using it once a day.. this maybe the cause of the dramatic loss in the right temple but in all honesty i started losing ground there before i decided to use it once a day..

Since then ive started applying it three to four times a day since someone else on another site said this had dramatic effects for him.. been doing this for the past month or so..

Im not to keen on increasing the dosage of propecia for sides and cost reasons but i may have to.. but yeah there are therapy's on the horizon, i just think i may have lost too much ground by then..

I have another question.. do you think that propecia may contribute to ageing.. ive just started noticing that may face seems to carry more signs of ageing than my friends who are the same age but then again this could be for a number of reasons..

But thank for the info, its much appreciated

[8868alex]

The Dude -

Hi

1. Don't take Minoxidil and more than twice per day (usually 2x 1ml). I appreciate that people may modify the directions on occasion (as have I in the past) but there is a greater chance of side effects, it is not proven more effective and will work out more expensive. I assume you are from the States? if not I would try and search out a good doctor anyway. You may have to dig hard in certain locations and do your research but it is better than taking advice from guys who self medicate on forums, even if they are genuine.

2. There is no evidence that Propecia would cause the aging effects that you mention. We all age at differant rates so don't compare yourself to your friends too much. If it helps, this is my regime:

1mg Finasteride daily (I use generic Finpecia from a reliable source)

2 x ml Rogaine Foam per day

Nizoral Shampoo (x 3 washes per week).

Hairmax Lasercomb (x3 15-20 applications per week).

I'm doing well with all of the above. Get some advice from a proper source, work out a treatment plan that works for you and stick to it. Only look to change it if you are unhappy with losng ground etc.

[TheDude]

Hay 8868alex

You may be right, i think minox twice a day is enough.. i live in South Africa, so no such thing here..

i just re-surveyed by hair and i have to say its pretty bad, i think i may be losing ground week by week never mind month by month.. my right temple region has expanded dramatically wish my eyes were lying..

I have a family history of baldness so i think its quiet an aggressive form.. propecia and minox have given me a few more years but i think its inevitable coming to an end until some new treatment comes to the forefront.. (oh i also use nizoral every second day for the past 4 months.. cant say its done much though)

The f'd up thing is, when i start shaving my head my right temple loss is going to be dramatically evident as opposed to the lose im experiencing on other parts of my head.. its so dam depressing.. i wish MPB was a person that you could throw a couple of swings at (blame game).. haha..

shit, really sux but thanks again for the help

[coolforyou]

I would give the Rogaine foam a go. It is very differant to the normal minoxidil. I have to say that any side effects I got with regards to discomfort have completely gone away. I think it is because the foam does'nt contain alcohol (which causes the discomfort). My advice would be to try this as an adjunct therapy and see how you get on first.

Good luck

Thanks a lot for your polite and awesome help mate ,

Can you please give me Genuine link (URL) for buying rogain foam in cheapest rate ? and please tell me how many times i have to apply this foam per day ? , since i am not aware of rogain foam , please help me mate .

@TheDude ,

Sorry buddy , to tell this , if a human being is using more alcohol or smoking , then it will ultimately lead to give aged look . This is scientifically true .

other than that , i haven't heard any complaint like this and even the FDA didn't mentioned any thing about this side effect ..ALL THE BEST

[coolforyou]

Hay 8868alex

You may be right, i think minox twice a day is enough.. i live in South Africa, so no such thing here..

i just re-surveyed by hair and i have to say its pretty bad, i think i may be losing ground week by week never mind month by month.. my right temple region has expanded dramatically wish my eyes were lying..

I have a family history of baldness so i think its quiet an aggressive form.. propecia and minox have given me a few more years but i think its inevitable coming to an end until some new treatment comes to the forefront.. (oh i also use nizoral every second day for the past 4 months.. cant say its done much though)

The f'd up thing is, when i start shaving my head my right temple loss is going to be dramatically evident as opposed to the lose im experiencing on other parts of my head.. its so dam depressing.. i wish MPB was a person that you could throw a couple of swings at (blame game).. haha..

shit, really sux but thanks again for the help

@TheDude,

Why can't you give a try on Hairmax lasercomb along with "FIN"

[8868alex]

The Dude -

Hi

Well I get mine from here (link below). It was suggested by Spex (who is a very knowledgeable and decent guy on the forums).

http://www.minoxidil-direct.co.uk/Rogaine_Foam.htm

Apply twice at day, about 12 hours apart if you can. It says to fill half a cap (on top of the aerosol) and apply to affected areas. Make sure you part tthe hair and try to get direct contact to the scalp. It dries within seconds and is no hassle at all. You may note that you can buy the Kirkland 5% Minoxidil at £18 for a 3 month supply. I tried this and got terrible discomfort. Go with the foam and see how you get on. If I were you I would contact Spencer direct about service in South Africa. I'm sure they is someone who can help. Cool For You made a good suggestion about the Lasercomb. I want to be clear here, whilst I use this and feel that it has some benefit, there are plenty of naysayers (including good doctors) who will strongly criticise this therapy. I did my research and made my own decision. I suggest you do the same. It does sound like you are suffering with this and I hear where you are coming from. My advice is to keep researching, stick to your treatments and try and stay positive. Also check out the interviews of the achives with Dr's like Bauman, Ziering, Naughton, etc. I think people should forget about "cure" talk but remain positive about the potential for better therapies. I feel that something will happen within the next couple of years. We have now got the PRP / Acell service in the UK. None of these are guraranteed to work, but they all show some promise at least.

Good luck

[8868alex]

Cool For You -

Sorry mate, the above reply was for you also!

[coolforyou]

Cool For You -

Sorry mate, the above reply was for you also!

Thank you very much for your awesome informative reply mate ..... .

I wonder you are upto date with all the new therapy ,keep it up man .

I hope , in a year ,by god s grace sure there will be a working therapy cure for MPB .

please keep in touch mate , i thank god for your wonderful friendship . thank you . if you wish please send me your GMAIL ID to my PM , else i will send my ID to your PM and please add me to your chat list mate . thank you

[coolforyou]

@8868alex ,

one important Request ,

I am suffering from itching on the the place where hair was affected , do you know any medicine which can give solution for itching ?

BTW mate , what is 0.025% tretinoin?

do you know anything about 0.025% tretinoin ? will this cream give any benefits?

[8868alex]

Hi

You could try the Nizoral 2% shampoo. I use it and I hear that it is good for this.

[coolforyou]

Hi

You could try the Nizoral 2% shampoo. I use it and I hear that it is good for this.

mate ,

I am using Nizoral 2% for 8 months along with fin , but no improvement in itching mate . can other suggestion please ..... ?

[TheDude]

Hay guys just want to say thanks of the help..

much appreciated

[8868alex]

Right, ok then. In that case, perhaps check with a Dermatologist. Maybe they can check for other issues (fungal infection, etc). It's a long shot but I find personally that the laser comb helps with this. One theory states that the itching comes from raised dht level affecting the follicle. It's a bit beyond me to be honest. I think either a Dr or a Derm would advise you better. I'm not sure if trying other shampoos (Menthol Head & Shoulders maybe?) could help?