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  • 35YrsAfter
    Doctor Representative
    • Aug 2012
    • 1421

    Originally posted by topcat
    Okay I don’t want to beat a dead horse here but most people are simply misinformed. Anyone that knows a subject extremely well knows that most of what is printed or repeated outside of well researched books is often incorrect. More potential damage is being done in other forms as one only needs to look at this massive amount of obesity all around us.

    I was at the airport the other day and I counted two people that seemed to have had sun exposure and this is O’Hare airport one of the busiest. About 90% of the people could only be described as obese and out of shape with a high percentage having tattoos and cell phones glued to their ear. But you see that is what has become normal. In fact I felt a little out of place that is how backwards our society has become.

    I’m 50 and in the best shape of my life both physically and mentally. I do not get sick nor do I have any aches and pains. I do not need any types of medications prescription or over the counter. I have not been to a doctor in almost 30 years outside of ht and sunshine is part of that lifestyle…..what about you?
    I'm experimenting with limited sun exposure. It's interesting how doctors come down on this issue. Some say a little is OK while others view sun exposure as completely harmful and something to be avoided. I have considered the possibility that certain common foods Americans consume act as a catalyst, creating an environment in which skin cancer can thrive. I remember reading an article regarding doctors being baffled by melanoma appearing on areas of the body that haven't had much sun exposure. I personally support a more balanced and natural approach to health.

    35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
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    Last edited by 35YrsAfter; 02-22-2015, 10:29 AM.

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    • gillenator
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 1417

      All cancers are on the rise whether it be over-exposure to the sun, the processed foods we eat and the environment in general.

      The hormone supplements, the anti-biotics, the fertilizers, pesticides, we could go on and on.
      "Gillenator"
      Independent Patient Advocate
      more.hair@verizon.net

      NOTE: I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice nor are they the opinions of the following endorsing physicians: Dr. Bob True & Dr. Bob Dorin

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      • 35YrsAfter
        Doctor Representative
        • Aug 2012
        • 1421

        Originally posted by gillenator
        All cancers are on the rise whether it be over-exposure to the sun, the processed foods we eat and the environment in general.

        The hormone supplements, the anti-biotics, the fertilizers, pesticides, we could go on and on.
        The popularity of organic foods is on the rise. People I speak with are suspicious, to say the least of the "Monsanto Protection Act". GMO gets a lot of negative press in foreign news and barely a mention in the mainstream American news.

        35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
        Last edited by 35YrsAfter; 02-22-2015, 10:30 AM.

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        • gillenator
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 1417

          I do not believe there is such a thing as "organic food" in a true sense as long as the food is grown in the environment.

          I have read about organic gardens grown indoors under a more controlled environment yet our ground water is still polluted and so is the air.

          Still it is a better option than processed foods or food grown with added herbicides/pesticides.

          I remember talking with a rancher in my area who certified the beef he raised as having feed with no additives or hormones and he did state that there were variables outside of his control.
          "Gillenator"
          Independent Patient Advocate
          more.hair@verizon.net

          NOTE: I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice nor are they the opinions of the following endorsing physicians: Dr. Bob True & Dr. Bob Dorin

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          • 35YrsAfter
            Doctor Representative
            • Aug 2012
            • 1421

            Originally posted by gillenator
            I do not believe there is such a thing as "organic food" in a true sense as long as the food is grown in the environment.

            I have read about organic gardens grown indoors under a more controlled environment yet our ground water is still polluted and so is the air.

            Still it is a better option than processed foods or food grown with added herbicides/pesticides.

            I remember talking with a rancher in my area who certified the beef he raised as having feed with no additives or hormones and he did state that there were variables outside of his control.
            I think the best we all can do in the current environment of polluted air and water is reduce the levels of poisons we get in our food. Even too much of a good thing is bad. For example, Vitamin A. Vitamin A found in both animal and plant-based products, is important for bone health, reproduction, and immune function. Vitamin A supplements can be of value to people with certain conditions that decrease fat absorption, like celiac disease, Crohn’s disease, and pancreatic problems. Vitamin A deficiency is uncommon among healthy Americans. Vitamin A can build up to toxic levels in the body. Taking too much over a period of time can lead to serious liver problems, birth defects, and disorders of the central nervous system.

            Iodine is another example. Although it's a necessary nutrient, too much can kill you. I remember as a kid seeing the bottle of iodine for cuts and scrapes with the skull and crossbones.

            35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
            Last edited by 35YrsAfter; 02-22-2015, 10:30 AM.

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            • gillenator
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 1417

              Good post. Iodine is one of those nutrients that used to be a lot more present in naturally grown foods. My understanding is that it is almost non-existent and seems that processed additives are the rule of the day.

              I have read that proper iodine levels are essential for preventing cancer cells from rapidly dividing. So people who are diagnosed with early stage cancers really want to look into this. A homeopathic specialist in Cleveland publishes a lot of good data on the subject.

              Why don't you start a new thread on good nutrition?
              "Gillenator"
              Independent Patient Advocate
              more.hair@verizon.net

              NOTE: I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice nor are they the opinions of the following endorsing physicians: Dr. Bob True & Dr. Bob Dorin

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              • 35YrsAfter
                Doctor Representative
                • Aug 2012
                • 1421

                Originally posted by gillenator
                Good post. Iodine is one of those nutrients that used to be a lot more present in naturally grown foods. My understanding is that it is almost non-existent and seems that processed additives are the rule of the day.

                I have read that proper iodine levels are essential for preventing cancer cells from rapidly dividing. So people who are diagnosed with early stage cancers really want to look into this. A homeopathic specialist in Cleveland publishes a lot of good data on the subject.

                Why don't you start a new thread on good nutrition?
                Nicole E. Rogers, MD wrote an interesting article in Hair Transplant Forum International magazine. In short, A Japanese study indicates that Vitamin D3 may play an important role in eventual cloning and regeneration of hair follicles.

                As I mentioned before, some MDs treat any sun exposure as if it were Agent Orange, advising others to avoid it at all costs. Other doctors claim a little sun is good for you. A little sun may actually be good for hair growth. I still believe it's wise to avoid more than a few minutes of sun, soon after a hair transplant.

                35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
                Pioneer in total follicular unit hair transplantation and microscopic dissection, focusing on transforming hair restoration surgery from cosmetically unacceptable results into aesthetically pleasing results.

                Cole Hair Transplant
                1045 Powers Place
                Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
                Phone 678-566-1011
                email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
                Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck

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                • gillenator
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 1417

                  I agree that some doctors advocate exposure to the sun in nominal durations to help facilitate those who are vitamin D deficient. There is some benefit to be derived but again in nominal amounts.

                  If my memory is correct, I believe Dr. Cole used to advise staying out of direct sun for up to 8-9 months post-op.
                  "Gillenator"
                  Independent Patient Advocate
                  more.hair@verizon.net

                  NOTE: I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice nor are they the opinions of the following endorsing physicians: Dr. Bob True & Dr. Bob Dorin

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                  • topcat
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 849

                    We would probably be well advised to move away from this notion that doctors know how to heal the body outside of surgery/drugs. In fact their knowledge of the Sun in most cases is probably zero. The fact that the Sun speeds wound healing has proven itself over hundreds of years through empirical evidence which is all being slowly lost and mostly gone as profit is more important and those that don't know any better will pay a hefty price in poor health.

                    This doesn’t mean I would advise direct sunlight post surgery to others. As always pick up about 25 books or so written by those who are respected in the field of sunlight and maybe you will walk away with a different point of view. Then learn a little bit about the history of medicine.

                    Doctors regularly had their patients sit in the Sun long ago. In fact they wheeled the hospital beds outside to a special area.

                    Small blurb below from a news article date 11/2012………….you would think that they discovered something new if you didn’t know any better.....lol......

                    UV-C, which is harmful to microorganisms, has been used for decades in food, air and water purification and to sterilize equipment in laboratory settings. This study demonstrates that its medical application may offer new strategies for reducing the estimated 1.7 million hospital-associated infections that occur annually in the United States. The cost of treating these infections, often involving increasingly antibiotic-resistant bacteria, ranges from an estimated $4.5 billion to as much as $11 billion.

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                    • topcat
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2009
                      • 849

                      Both my grandfathers smoked and they both started very young around 14 or so. They both lived well into their 90’s and they both had one thing in common plenty of time in the Sun. They grew up in the Balkans on farms. If you look at the stats those that smoke and are exposed to Sun have drastically lower rates of lung cancer. Not suggesting anyone should smoke but just start studying the stats and not what the main stream media is force feeding everyone.

                      Here are a couple of paragraphs from author Andreas Moritz and his book “Heal Yourself with Sunlight” a very good starter book for most.

                      The medical doctor and author, Dr. Auguste Rollier, was the most famous heliotherapist of his day. At his peak, he operated 36 clinics with over 1,000 beds in Leysin, Switzerland. His clinics were situated 5,000 feet above sea level, the high altitude allowing his patients to catch a lot more UV light than was possible at the lower levels of the atmosphere. Dr. Rollier used the UV rays of sunlight to treat diseases such as tuberculosis (TB), rickets, smallpox, lupus vulgaris (skin tuberculosis), and wounds. He followed in the footsteps of Danish physician Dr. Niels Finsen, who won a Nobel Prize in 1903 for his treatment of TB using ultraviolet light. Rollier found that sunbathing early in the morning, in conjunction with a nutritious diet, produced the best effects.

                      The miraculous complete cures of tuberculosis and other diseases facilitated by these doctors made headlines at the time. What surprised the medical community most was the fact that the sun’s healing rays remained ineffective if the patients wore sunglasses. [Sunglasses block out important rays of the light spectrum which the body requires for essential biological functions.] Note: your eyes receive these rays even if you are in the shade.

                      By the year 1933, there were over 165 different diseases for which sunlight proved to be a beneficial treatment. However, with the death of Rollier in 1954 and the growing power of the pharmaceutical industry, heliotherapy fell into disuse. By the 1960s, man-made “miracle drugs” had replaced medicine’s fascination with the sun’s healing powers, and by the 1980s the public was increasingly being bombarded with warnings about sunbathing and the risks of skin cancer.

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                      • topcat
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 849

                        If in fact vitamin D does speed wound healing and if in fact vitamin D is stored in the fat cells of the body and if in fact obesity hinders the body’s ability to use vitamin D would it not be much better to advise a patient to get some sun exposure and lose as much bodyfat as possible before having a procedure to maximize the healing process. Of course this advice will not be issued by a doctor for so many reasons but regardless is this not sound sensible advice that one can easily research if they were to take the time.

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                        • gillenator
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 1417

                          I smoked for 40 years and I spent endless hours in the sun and still got lung cancer.
                          "Gillenator"
                          Independent Patient Advocate
                          more.hair@verizon.net

                          NOTE: I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice nor are they the opinions of the following endorsing physicians: Dr. Bob True & Dr. Bob Dorin

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                          • topcat
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2009
                            • 849

                            Yes Gillenator I remembering you mentioning the lung cancer. Of course stats are only stats many will not fall into the category that they would prefer for many reasons of which we only know a handful.

                            Both my grandfathers ate sparsely and were thin. Each having a low BMI and they fasted more than occasionally as there was not much food available which greatly increases one's chance of not getting cancer. They both drank plenty of homemade wines which were very high in resveratrol and no sulfur dioxide another likely key factor of which they were unaware. Probably the best thing they did though it was not by choice was to not eat highly sugared, highly processed foods. Cancer needs sugar the more the better, they ate real food. They also used zero prescription or OTC medications.

                            I’m sure most are not going to agree with my comments which is okay with me I just feel the need to post them sometimes as another point of view. I feel staying out of the sun or applying sunscreen is extremely poor advice.

                            Gillenator I watched a really good movie on a cancer doctor that is available on the internet. Just Google Burzynski movie. I have followed this doctor off and on for 30 years now mostly due to my interest in health and nutrition. They tried to squash this guy over that same number of years. Tried to discredit him, jail him, even tried to steal his idea an amazing story of a man that was just doing good trying to help others. Well he managed to keep going through it all and persevered. One can only imagine how many lost their lives or suffered greatly with current treatments only because they weren’t given the option of having the information.

                            The testimonials given throughout the movie come from deep within the heart. Many researching HT would benefit from watching it as the correlations are numerous.

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                            • 35YrsAfter
                              Doctor Representative
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 1421

                              Originally posted by gillenator
                              I smoked for 40 years and I spent endless hours in the sun and still got lung cancer.
                              I didn't know you had lung cancer. How many years ago? Are you cancer free?

                              Chuck

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                              • 35YrsAfter
                                Doctor Representative
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 1421

                                Originally posted by topcat
                                Both my grandfathers smoked and they both started very young around 14 or so. They both lived well into their 90’s and they both had one thing in common plenty of time in the Sun. They grew up in the Balkans on farms. If you look at the stats those that smoke and are exposed to Sun have drastically lower rates of lung cancer.
                                Both my parents smoked for years and neither died of lung cancer. My dad spent a lot of time in the sun and ended up with Actinic Keratosis. Actinic Keratosis is considered a pre-cancerous skin condition. The doctor gave him a topical lotion and like 5fluorasil, it makes your skin red and nasty while its doing its thing. Our family didn't eat well and I think the fatty diet contributed or acted as a catalyst related to his AK formation. My dad just stopped using the topical AK treatment and lived out the rest of his life with AK. He died at 74 because he had painful gout and a doctor prescribed an outdated medication that had a kidney-damaging side effect. The medication masked his symptoms of prostate cancer. The surgery would have been successful but the medication weakened his kidneys to the point he didn't survive the anesthesia. He died while on a kidney dialysis machine.

                                35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
                                Pioneer in total follicular unit hair transplantation and microscopic dissection, focusing on transforming hair restoration surgery from cosmetically unacceptable results into aesthetically pleasing results.

                                Cole Hair Transplant
                                1045 Powers Place
                                Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
                                Phone 678-566-1011
                                email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
                                Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck

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